Artkansas 

When I lived in the desert, lots of guys that I knew loved their classic cars. To me classic bikes are the same way. Hopefully, this little French maiden can charm it's way into your heart and garage. My early '70s vintage American Eagle/Nishiki that I rode concurrently with the Peugeot in the picture is undergoing a slow restomod upgrade, strangely I'm bringing it up to the level of the Peugeot, with bar cons and a brooks saddle. I recently was given a mid '70s Kabuki. It's a sweet bike too.

cyclinfool

You have a decision to make - do you want a new hobby within your current hobby?

DnvrFox

Hey, thanks for the magnet idea - so simple, but yet so elegant. Honestly, I would never have thought of that.


time passes



So, returning from the garage, I can report that they are steel, textured, chromed, and not a speck of rust!

I would do no more of an overhaul than to clean the parts up a bit, put on some new tires and tubes (I assume 700 x about 38 tubes will work, but it will need 27" tires??) - thinking of 27 x 1.25 or so tires - Nashbar is having a sale.

Don't let me near a bike with a tool - total devastation will occur. I don't have the patience, tools, skills or mind-set to do an overhaul. The Simplex seems to be workng ok - I have it on my "stand" and it shifts through the gears fine - haven't ridden it yet due to tires - one seems to have a hard glob in it, and I wouldn't trust it - perhaps hardened slime.

Thanks so much for your input.

DnvrFox

Nope.

I would like to replace the tires and tubes. I already replaced the broken seat. Clean the drive train a bit, apply some lube, pump the new tires to about 85 psi - and AWAY!!

cyclinfool

N+1-1: A man with true balance.

JanMM

If the rims are 27", then the tires must be 27".

DnvrFox

Yes. But what I was asking was would 700x38's or so work with a 27 x 1.25 tire. (I have a couple of new 700x38's tubes, and a couple of new 700x25's tubes).

guybierhaus

I have a NOS Schwinn tube marked 27 x 1.125 or 700 x 28..... I would think a 700 x 30-32 would be a better fit for a 1.25 tyre. But I never tried it. Certainly worth a try.

Apologist

My son was just given a very similar bike, and the C&V forum was very helpful in identifying it: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/547965-peugeot-query.html.

Seems to ride very well. The previous owner did some modifications, replacing the old wheels with a more modern set and the drop bars with North Road style bars. My son wanted it for a commuter bike at school, and it should be just right for that.

zonatandem

Love the handlebar mounted bottle cage!
Had dual mounted bottle cages on handlebars of my PX-10 and AO8.
Brings back memories!

JanMM

27 x 1 1/4-1 3/8" 700 x 28-35c <-- I found that on an old BF post. (Google 'bicycle tire tube sizing')

38 or 25 might work. Probably depends on how accurately the tires and the tubes are sized. I couldn't find specific info about tube sizing on the Sheldon site.

DnvrFox

Thanks so much!!

roccobike

Tires, Tubes and Pressure. You probably have chrome, steel rims on the Peugeot. I still have a rim from a mid 70's Peugeot. It has a smooth inside lip, meaning it is not hooked bead like your newer bikes have. The tires you are taking off are gum wall. They stuck to the chrome and could handle higher pressure, but if you are replacing them with non-gumwall tires, (because that's what is mostly available) they won't take high pressure without coming off the rims at an inopportune time, like while you're riding. As I recall, Sheldon Brown recommended pressure of 70 PSI. I've pumped mine up to 80.
As for tubes, I am fairly sure you need Schrader valve tubes for that bike. You can use Presta, but you'll need to buy "centering" nuts to center the valve in the Schrader hole so that it doesn't get cut. As for tube size, all my Kenda tube boxes have the 27" equivalent size on the box. A 700X25 is too small (27 X 1 1/8), a 700X38 is too large (27 X 1 3/8), so a 700X28 should be just right for a 27X1.25 tire. Given that you don't have a hooked bead I would not try a 700X35 tube with a 1 1/4 tire.

howsteepisit

27" tires are not interchangeable with 700C. You need to go to a shop that can supply 27" tires. 1 !/4 or 1 1/8 should be fine

DnvrFox

Thanks a whole lot. This is all new to me.

DnvrFox

Thanks, but we are discussing the tubes, not the tires, which will, of course, be 27"

DnvrFox

How about this??

Kenda
27 x 1-1/4 Gumwall Bicycle Tire (K35)
Reg: $14.99
Web Sale Price: $12.74
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This is a great basic replacement tire for any bike with 27-inch wheels. Gum sidewalls. 22 TPI. 90 PSI. And the price is right!

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BengeBoy 

I think the C&V folks have recommended those as good replacement tire for 27-inch wheels.

My daily commuter has 27 inch wheels - I use Pasela Tour Guard's on that; they are just a bit more expensive.

As for your tube question - yes, 700c tubes will generally work just fine in a 27-inch tire.


The bike may not need very much work other than tires and tubes if you're just trying to see how it does on short rides, but one very easy change to consider is getting new/modern brake pads. My experience - makes a big difference; old brake pads are often dried out/useless compared to modern pads. Quick, cheap, easy to make that change, even if you decide to have a shop do more advanced rehab work.

Road Fan

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Ok, you are not a tools 'n grease guy, fair enough. There is a shop in Denver that specializes in vintage bikes: CycleAnalyst. I recall (17 years ago) they were on South Downing Street, but things change.

If it was mine I'd give it a thorough inspection and decide what are the key issues to be resolved before seeing if I like it. Then after she wins my heart, consider dress-up, but I am a tools 'n grease guy. I'd suggest taking it to this shop and asking them to assess it - is there anything that really needs attention before you try it out (emphasize your bone-crushing leg strength and how you've fractured lesser machines just last week - trust me, they won't laugh, they're very cultured).

Seriously, that place is a resource available to you. Not everyone has access to a shop like that.

Road Fan

howsteepisit

Sorry I misread. I my expereince the 700x38 tubes would be fine. I believe that since the rubber in tubes is pretty streatchy, just about any 700C bigger than 28 would work in a pinch.

Road Fan

If possible get a tube with teh same width spec as teh tire, it's just less risk that it will all fit right. 700 versus 27 might be ok for the tube diameter. You clearly need a 27 inch tire.

I know there's an REI store still up on Alameda between Santa Fe and Federal, but I think there's one down your way now, too, either in Aurora, or maybe Arapahoe Road, or even in Parker. They usually have a wide selection of tubes just sitting there on teh shelf for you to stare at. Careful with the valve spec. These are probably Schraeder valves, just going from ancient memory.

Road Fan

I have seen tubes too small get stretched too thin when put in a tire that is too big. I'd rather see DnVer not risk any such things, especially when nice stores like REI probably have something on the shelf that says "27 inch x 1.25 inches Schraeder valve," and the guesswork can be eliminated.

Artkansas 

If they are anything like the Walmart Kenda's they may take a little extra effort to get the bead seated properly on the rim, but once you do, they are good for a couple of thousand miles. You can get similar prices at Walmart or it's competitors. They also sell tubes. And yes, they are Schrader valves.

alicestrong

Interesting.

I tend to make short replies, also...but it's because I am a lousy typist!

centexwoody 

the fixie crowd in Denver / Ft. Collins / Boulder would buy it for the horizontal rear dropouts alone...