Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Fifty Plus (50+)
Reload this Page >

Never Ending Quest for the Perfect Saddle

Notices
Fifty Plus (50+) Share the victories, challenges, successes and special concerns of bicyclists 50 and older. Especially useful for those entering or reentering bicycling.

Never Ending Quest for the Perfect Saddle

Old 01-31-10, 01:43 PM
  #1  
Old Fart Racing
Thread Starter
 
Metric Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Draper UT
Posts: 1,347

Bikes: 2015 Trek Domane 6.9 disc D/A Di2

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Never Ending Quest for the Perfect Saddle

So in my continuing search for the elusive "perfect" saddle I scored a brand new Specialized Toupe saddle on eBay for $80. There has to be the perfect mate for my backside out there somewhere...hopefully this is it. I was in an LBS out in Arizona (visiting my daughter and son in-law) and they had the Specialized sit bone measuring thing so I'm pretty sure this saddle in 155mm will be the right size...I just hope it's the one since my collection of "like new" saddles is growing.

Metric Man is offline  
Old 01-31-10, 02:17 PM
  #2  
Time for a change.
 
stapfam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Posts: 19,913

Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.

Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
I gave up on looking for the perfect saddle after the prostate op. Then 5 years later itarrived on a bike I bought. Didn't last long though. Suddenly on one ride it went off and I had to start the search again.
__________________
How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.


Spike Milligan
stapfam is offline  
Old 01-31-10, 02:29 PM
  #3  
'47
Senior Member
 
'47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 185
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
After lotsa years riding, I've never found the perfect saddle that disappears under me-- including the iconic Brooks. I have managed to accumulate a box full of failed candidates for the honor. Some saddles are noticably betther than others. These days, and for several past seasons, I've been riding Regals and Flite Trans Am Gel's.....but after "x" amount of miles on any given day on any given saddle....the butt can still complain.

But, its all relative. I remember when the late 80's Turbo was considered a comfy enough racing saddle.....I happily enough owned 2, but were I to ride them today I'd probably think otherwise. Some people still like the old Rolls.

Simple practices can help get you farther w/o discomfort...change position frequently, get up off the saddle regularly, sometimes spin heavier gears to help "unweight" the butt, good shorts, butt balm if need be, right saddle height, blah, blah................and simply some stoic endurance "in the end".
'47 is offline  
Old 01-31-10, 03:30 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
social suicide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Marquette
Posts: 692
Liked 14 Times in 8 Posts
Padded (not gel) shorts have worked great for me. This spring I am adding a Thudbuster ST twixt me and the ground.
social suicide is offline  
Old 01-31-10, 07:25 PM
  #5  
Banned.
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Southern california
Posts: 3,498

Bikes: Lapierre CF Sensium 400. Jamis Ventura Sport. Trek 800. Giant Cypress.

Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by Metric Man
So in my continuing search for the elusive "perfect" saddle I scored a brand new Specialized Toupe saddle on eBay for $80. There has to be the perfect mate for my backside out there somewhere...hopefully this is it. I was in an LBS out in Arizona (visiting my daughter and son in-law) and they had the Specialized sit bone measuring thing so I'm pretty sure this saddle in 155mm will be the right size...I just hope it's the one since my collection of "like new" saddles is growing.

You will get a chance to see on the 13th. Palm Springs is the perfect testing ground. I have to take my Jamis because my Lapierre is heading for the bike hospital. I will be using the saddle off of the Lapierre for the century even on the more relaxed Jamis. Once you find the saddle that fits you will know it and at least know what will work. So far I think there are seven of us riding together.
Robert Foster is offline  
Old 01-31-10, 07:50 PM
  #6  
Old Fart Racing
Thread Starter
 
Metric Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Draper UT
Posts: 1,347

Bikes: 2015 Trek Domane 6.9 disc D/A Di2

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Robert Foster
You will get a chance to see on the 13th. Palm Springs is the perfect testing ground. I have to take my Jamis because my Lapierre is heading for the bike hospital. I will be using the saddle off of the Lapierre for the century even on the more relaxed Jamis. Once you find the saddle that fits you will know it and at least know what will work. So far I think there are seven of us riding together.
That's what I'm hoping for Bob...is Lapierre covering the frame?
Metric Man is offline  
Old 01-31-10, 08:17 PM
  #7  
Banned.
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Southern california
Posts: 3,498

Bikes: Lapierre CF Sensium 400. Jamis Ventura Sport. Trek 800. Giant Cypress.

Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by Metric Man
That's what I'm hoping for Bob...is Lapierre covering the frame?
They said they would but until I get my frame to them and it gets back I am not putting anything in the bank. Though the representative said they had never had one of these frames returned there is always a first time I guess. They are supposed to be pretty good at standing behind their frames so we will see.
At least I had finished the rebuild of the Jamis and while it isnít a performance bike it was what I did my first century on. More relaxed with a bit longer wheel base. Easy to ride with no hands when you remove a jacket or arm warmers. There is a long shot the Lapierre will be back by then but I am not sure I can get it back together in time.

It might knock me out of Bull Dog however but that is 4 weeks away.
Robert Foster is offline  
Old 01-31-10, 08:26 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 726
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Got three letters for you: SMP
monk is offline  
Old 01-31-10, 08:29 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
NOS88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Montgomery County, Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,489
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts
One can spend a considerable amount on the search. Mine got easier when I found an LBS that would let me try one and return it if it wasn't the right match. Only catch was that I had to end up buying somethings. I lucked out and found three saddles that all work for me. One of which is the gel Toupe. One suggestion is: don't over tighten the seat clamp on the seat post. These saddles or so minimal that they eaisly distort shape.
__________________
A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. - S. Wright
Favorite rides in the stable: Indy Fab CJ Ti - Colnago MXL - S-Works Roubaix - Habanero Team Issue - Jamis Eclipse carbon/831
NOS88 is offline  
Old 01-31-10, 09:06 PM
  #10  
Old Fart Racing
Thread Starter
 
Metric Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Draper UT
Posts: 1,347

Bikes: 2015 Trek Domane 6.9 disc D/A Di2

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by monk
Got three letters for you: SMP
I'm on a Selle Italia gel flow right now...not impressed. I have a B-17, and several Specialized saddles (low end) as well as a couple of recommended Bontragers too. Perhaps an SMP is somewhere in the future, but I have a small fortune invested as it is.
Metric Man is offline  
Old 01-31-10, 09:07 PM
  #11  
Old Fart Racing
Thread Starter
 
Metric Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Draper UT
Posts: 1,347

Bikes: 2015 Trek Domane 6.9 disc D/A Di2

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by NOS88
One can spend a considerable amount on the search. Mine got easier when I found an LBS that would let me try one and return it if it wasn't the right match. Only catch was that I had to end up buying somethings. I lucked out and found three saddles that all work for me. One of which is the gel Toupe. One suggestion is: don't over tighten the seat clamp on the seat post. These saddles or so minimal that they eaisly distort shape.
I see the Toupe on more bikes than anything else. There must be a reason. Thanks on the tightening part too.
Metric Man is offline  
Old 01-31-10, 09:42 PM
  #12  
Let's do a Century
 
jppe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 8,316

Bikes: Cervelo R3 Disc, Pinarello Prince/Campy SR; Cervelo R3/Sram Red; Trek 5900/Duraace, Lynskey GR260 Ultegra

Liked 879 Times in 408 Posts
Originally Posted by Metric Man
So in my continuing search for the elusive "perfect" saddle I scored a brand new Specialized Toupe saddle on eBay for $80. There has to be the perfect mate for my backside out there somewhere...hopefully this is it. I was in an LBS out in Arizona (visiting my daughter and son in-law) and they had the Specialized sit bone measuring thing so I'm pretty sure this saddle in 155mm will be the right size...I just hope it's the one since my collection of "like new" saddles is growing.

I saw one of those in my bike box this afternoon when I was looking for some parts. Mine is white with blue trim and the non-gel version but the wider option. I hope you're able to use yours longer than I used mine.
__________________
Ride your Ride!!
jppe is offline  
Old 01-31-10, 09:58 PM
  #13  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 7

Bikes: '09 Gary Fisher Wahoo

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by '47

Simple practices can help get you farther w/o discomfort...change position frequently, get up off the saddle regularly, sometimes spin heavier gears to help "unweight" the butt, good shorts, butt balm if need be, right saddle height, blah, blah................and simply some stoic endurance "in the end".
I am new to riding (Something other than Schwinn or Sears). I changed the saddle that came with my Fisher Wahoo (a Bontrager Race Lux - I felt it was too hard) for a Sonoma Gel 155 (it just looked & felt good in the store - no research so I have no idea how that saddle ranks)- Also I got shorts with padding, but I also use heaver gears, keep the seat low and don't put much weight on the saddle. I don't know what I am doing, just trying to figure things out and avoid a sore rear end.
Razzoo is offline  
Old 01-31-10, 10:12 PM
  #14  
Old Fart Racing
Thread Starter
 
Metric Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Draper UT
Posts: 1,347

Bikes: 2015 Trek Domane 6.9 disc D/A Di2

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Razzoo
I am new to riding (Something other than Schwinn or Sears). I changed the saddle that came with my Fisher Wahoo (a Bontrager Race Lux - I felt it was too hard) for a Sonoma Gel 155 (it just looked & felt good in the store - no research so I have no idea how that saddle ranks)- Also I got shorts with padding, but I also use heaver gears, keep the seat low and don't put much weight on the saddle. I don't know what I am doing, just trying to figure things out and avoid a sore rear end.
Welcome Razzoo...I have a Sonoma Gel 155 as well. It started out good but I quickly decided it was too soft for me.
Metric Man is offline  
Old 01-31-10, 10:13 PM
  #15  
Old Fart Racing
Thread Starter
 
Metric Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Draper UT
Posts: 1,347

Bikes: 2015 Trek Domane 6.9 disc D/A Di2

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by jppe
I saw one of those in my bike box this afternoon when I was looking for some parts. Mine is white with blue trim and the non-gel version but the wider option. I hope you're able to use yours longer than I used mine.
That's encouraging.
Metric Man is offline  
Old 01-31-10, 10:51 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
BCRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: The 'Wack, BC, Canada
Posts: 5,559

Bikes: Norco (2), Miyata, Canondale, Soma, Redline

Liked 49 Times in 38 Posts
For me the perfect saddle is the old Ritchey Vector. It's highly rounded and fairly narrow so it LOOKS like it should feel like heck. But of all the ones I've tried it's the one that all but dissapears under me.

My 2 recently acquired Brooks are comfy and all but in the one case it's SO comfy that I languish in having my butt cheeks coddled in such a manner and it interferes with the riding. The other is OK and is much like my beloved Vectors.

I've managed to get 3 of the Ritcheys and they are not going anywhere but from one bike to the next as I purchase them.

Why do these work? They are highly rounded and common sense says they should feel like sitting on a knife blade. But they don't. Instead they support where needed and don't get in the way of the inner thigh muscles on the downstroke like some others seem to do. The one in your first post looks like it would cut into the inner thigh on the downstroke. A longer side skirt would likely fix that issue if it's there like I think it would be. A longer side skirt like... oh... the one on the Ritchey Vectors for example.... To get around the pressure on the naughty bits I angle the nose down as needed until I feel the pressure on the sit bones. For me this ends up with the saddle having a 5 to 7 degree nose down attitude. Some folks say I'll slip off but in use this just doesn't happen. It's also needed because that's how I'm built. I have to do the same thing with the fancy cut away saddles.
BCRider is offline  
Old 02-01-10, 04:24 AM
  #17  
Boomer
 
maddmaxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 7,214

Bikes: Diamondback Clarity II frame homebuilt.

Liked 1,457 Times in 1,064 Posts
There is no such thing.
maddmaxx is offline  
Old 02-01-10, 05:38 AM
  #18  
just keep riding
 
BluesDawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Milledgeville, Georgia
Posts: 13,560

Bikes: 2018 Black Mountain Cycles MCD,2017 Advocate Cycles Seldom Seen Drop Bar, 2017 Niner Jet 9 Alloy, 2015 Zukas custom road, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S

Liked 33 Times in 22 Posts
The perfect saddle is (your favorite here). There is no need to try any other.
BluesDawg is offline  
Old 02-01-10, 06:28 AM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Allegheny Jet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Medina, OH
Posts: 5,804

Bikes: confidential infromation that I don't even share with my wife

Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
^ +1

My current flavor of the day is the Specialized Phenom and it only cost $75, even less with a LBS discount. I now have three bikes with the saddle, one is 3 yrs old, one 2 yrs old and one attached last fall.
Allegheny Jet is offline  
Old 02-01-10, 07:29 AM
  #20  
Old Fart Racing
Thread Starter
 
Metric Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Draper UT
Posts: 1,347

Bikes: 2015 Trek Domane 6.9 disc D/A Di2

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Allegheny Jet
^ +1

My current flavor of the day is the Specialized Phenom and it only cost $75, even less with a LBS discount. I now have three bikes with the saddle, one is 3 yrs old, one 2 yrs old and one attached last fall.
Almost went that route...
Metric Man is offline  
Old 02-01-10, 09:45 AM
  #21  
Banned.
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Southern california
Posts: 3,498

Bikes: Lapierre CF Sensium 400. Jamis Ventura Sport. Trek 800. Giant Cypress.

Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I agree the perfect saddle is the one you like. I also agree there is one no perfect saddle for everyone. As you have discovered some highly recommended saddles aren’t necessarily as comfortable for you as they are for some. When you ride with us you may notice a greater number of SMPs but you might also notice they are not all the same model. I like the one with a little padding and some like a bit more or a bit less. Little Ben tried the SMP race with no padding and ended up buying one with more padding than I have. Some people have the saddle you are showing as well. It is a hard task you are trying. I wish you luck.
Robert Foster is offline  
Old 02-01-10, 10:05 AM
  #22  
Senior Member
 
curdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Nags Head NC
Posts: 359

Bikes: Cannondale Synapse

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I just got a Toupe over Ebay also. Hope to give it a try some time this week.
curdog is offline  
Old 02-01-10, 12:50 PM
  #23  
Time for a change.
 
stapfam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Posts: 19,913

Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.

Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by jppe
I saw one of those in my bike box this afternoon when I was looking for some parts. Mine is white with blue trim and the non-gel version but the wider option. I hope you're able to use yours longer than I used mine.
Originally Posted by Metric Man
That's encouraging.
Originally Posted by maddmaxx
There is no such thing.
Originally Posted by curdog
I just got a Toupe over Ebay also. Hope to give it a try some time this week.
Sorry but if you have butt ache- then there is not a great deal that can be done. You will be doomed to forever buying saddles till you have no room for any more.

Then one day the butt fairy will send you a gift and it will work---For a while.

So keep looking and keep buying- It helps the economy.
__________________
How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.


Spike Milligan
stapfam is offline  
Old 02-01-10, 01:20 PM
  #24  
Senior Member
 
NOS88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Montgomery County, Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,489
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by stapfam
Sorry but if you have butt ache- then there is not a great deal that can be done. You will be doomed to forever buying saddles till you have no room for any more.

Then one day the butt fairy will send you a gift and it will work---For a while.

So keep looking and keep buying- It helps the economy.
OK, so when I think of what the butt fairy must do to earn a living, my rough days at work don't seem all that bad. Thanks for the image.
__________________
A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. - S. Wright
Favorite rides in the stable: Indy Fab CJ Ti - Colnago MXL - S-Works Roubaix - Habanero Team Issue - Jamis Eclipse carbon/831
NOS88 is offline  
Old 02-01-10, 01:57 PM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
TromboneAl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Far, Far Northern California
Posts: 2,873

Bikes: 1997 Specialized M2Pro

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I scored a used Selle San Marco 7 at a flea market yesterday for $1. It's a little cushier than the WTB saddle I have now, so I'm going to try it out.
TromboneAl is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.