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NOS88 02-08-10 10:43 AM

Do I forgive her or not?
 
Yesterday I was bidding on an Indy Fab Ti Crown Jewel frame and fork. I was the highest bidder going into the last 30 seconds. I even had everything set up to kick in my final bid at the very last second should it be needed. All I had to do was hit the send button. With 8 seconds to go a bid came in $25 higher than my current bid. The bid I had keyed and ready to enter was $150 over that. Just as I was about to hit the send button (from previous experience I've learned that about 6 seconds is the right time to do this), the computer goes off line, as I hear my wife say, "I can't get on-line. I'm going to reset the modem." Needless to say I lost the Indy Fab by $25. Unfreaking believable! I was sooooooo close to getting a frame I've dreamed about for the last few years.

miss kenton 02-08-10 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by NOS88 (Post 10376493)
Yesterday I was bidding on an Indy Fab Ti Crown Jewel frame and fork. I was the highest bidder going into the last 30 seconds. I even had everything set up to kick in my final bid at the very last second should it be needed. All I had to do was hit the send button. With 8 seconds to go a bid came in $25 higher than my current bid. The bid I had keyed and ready to enter was $150 over that. Just as I was about to hit the send button (from previous experience I've learned that about 6 seconds is the right time to do this), the computer goes off line, as I hear my wife say, "I can't get on-line. I'm going to reset the modem." Needless to say I lost the Indy Fab by $25. Unfreaking believable! I was sooooooo close to getting a frame I've dreamed about for the last few years.

If you are sure it was purely an accident, forgive her. Fate was at play. Perhaps you are meant to get a better deal somewhere down the line or that frame may have not been what you actually hoped it would be. On the otherhand, if you suspect it was NOT an accident, you have every right to not dig her car out from the 18 inch snowfall predicted for the Del. Val. area tomorrow.:)

maddmaxx 02-08-10 11:05 AM

If you wanted it so bad, why hadn't you already entered your larger bid? It would have been in place automatically but would have not raised the price at all if no one else placed another bid. There is no need to last second bid on Ebay.............unless you have a change of heart and decide to bid above your final budget.

badrad 02-08-10 11:07 AM

she knew... they always know. nothing is ever accidental. it was probably payback for something you did long ago. did you miss an anniversary or one of her birthdays? did you unwittingly comment on her weight or some wrinkles? dig deep and try to recall. it's there. they are all evil, evil, evil.

Barrettscv 02-08-10 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by badrad (Post 10376589)
she knew... they always know. nothing is ever accidental. it was probably payback for something you did long ago. did you miss an anniversary or one of her birthdays? did you unwittingly comment on her weight or some wrinkles? dig deep and try to recall. it's there. they are all evil, evil, evil.

LOL.

Don't worry. A better deal will become available. You just wasted some time trying to close this deal.

Michael

P.S. I hide my bikes from the wife and keep her in the dark when doing something new. I tell that each bike can be resold at a profit and that I'll sell something when the selling season is on. The selling season is "August", if I'm speaking to her during the fall, winter or spring. It's "May", If I'm speaking to her during the summer.

BluesDawg 02-08-10 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by maddmaxx (Post 10376579)
If you wanted it so bad, why hadn't you already entered your larger bid? It would have been in place automatically but would have not raised the price at all if no one else placed another bid. There is no need to last second bid on Ebay.............unless you have a change of heart and decide to bid above your final budget.

Not necessarily so. In the psychological game of bidding, there can be advantages to not revealing your intention until the last second. Sometimes a rival can be tricked into thinking his bid will hold if you don't raise until it is too late for him to respond.

I do agree with miss K that fate was in play here. Something bad was going to happen if he got that frame.

v70cat 02-08-10 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by badrad (Post 10376589)
she knew... they always know. nothing is ever accidental. it was probably payback for something you did long ago. did you miss an anniversary or one of her birthdays? did you unwittingly comment on her weight or some wrinkles? dig deep and try to recall. it's there. they are all evil, evil, evil.

Are you for real?

maddmaxx 02-08-10 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by BluesDawg (Post 10376640)
Not necessarily so. In the psychological game of bidding, there can be advantages to not revealing your intention until the last second. Sometimes a rival can be tricked into thinking his bid will hold if you don't raise until it is too late for him to respond.

I do agree with miss K that fate was in play here. Something bad was going to happen if he got that frame.

I would never assume this on an Ebay bid. Most last minute bidders use an automated last minute program that is almost impossible to beat. I've found it better to be waiting with my top price bid already in place. Many will quit if they try to outbid me early with a low ball bid and get overbid immediately. Others who wait for the last minute and don't outbid me have no second chance. Lastly, if someone outbids my final price...........they can have it.

The best part of this policy is that if I'm outbid, I don't have to wait till the end of the auction........I'm out of it and can go looking for something else to bid on.

Note, that I am a cheap bidder and if I get knocked out early I do not get involved in a bidding war that may cause me to go well above my estimated "correct" price.

stapfam 02-08-10 12:03 PM

Don't bid often but wanted a Table saw. One came up and list price was £145. Not the best around and I would not normally go for this one---But the auction was at £60 with 5 minutes to go. Gradually got to £75 and had my bid ready for £80.51 all ready to post. Then looked at 1 minute and it was at £155 and rising. I was laughing so much I forgot to post my bid.

v70cat 02-08-10 12:05 PM

I never buy things on Ebay, you end up buying more than its worth, plus shipping and all the waiting for the item to end.

rumrunn6 02-08-10 12:07 PM

forgive? of course! but she needs a lesson in internet modem resetting etiquette!

big john 02-08-10 12:24 PM

I think if I dreamed about any frame I would just buy one new, and I'm poor.

NOS88 02-08-10 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 10376896)
I think if I dreamed about any frame I would just buy one new, and I'm poor.

The difference between a new Indy Fab Ti Crown Jewel and the one I lost was $2,625. I can't say I'm poor, but that difference is too big for me to ignore. But none of that matters, someone else got it.

NOS88 02-08-10 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by v70cat (Post 10376841)
I never buy things on Ebay, you end up buying more than its worth, plus shipping and all the waiting for the item to end.

Some of my favorite bikes and gear have come through bidding. I've found that when I'm careful, do my research, ask the right questions, and am disciplined, I can get some real bargains. My current titanium bike is fully outfitted with Reynolds Ouzo Pro fork, Ultegra SL, and Mavic Open Pro wheels on Ultegra hubs. I got all of this via the bidding process for under $2,000, and the fork, Ultegra SL, and wheels were new.

oilman_15106 02-08-10 12:48 PM

The problem with custom made frames as almost all IF frames are, is getting one with your exact(or even close) geometry. It is total luck that a custom frame ever gets posted on scambay that is an exact fit. Keep looking but it may take some time.

My ebay bidding policy is make my highest bid and let it ride. Even in this stinko economy it is amazing what some people end up paying. Example: guy has 10 sets of skewers listed in different auctions. I bid on one of them at a minimum price and some moron starts bidding on the same one when there are 7 exact items with no bids! I have to think of an old Fritos ad, we'll make more(money).

Barrettscv 02-08-10 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by NOS88 (Post 10376976)
Some of my favorite bikes and gear have come through bidding. I've found that when I'm careful, do my research, ask the right questions, and am disciplined, I can get some real bargains. My current titanium bike is fully outfitted with Reynolds Ouzo Pro fork, Ultegra SL, and Mavic Open Pro wheels on Ultegra hubs. I got all of this via the bidding process for under $2,000, and the fork, Ultegra SL, and wheels were new.

Ditto;

I recently scored a Lynskey made "Planet X" titanium frame and I am in the process of gathering all the bits to build the bike using eBay. I'm going with a Shimano Ultegra SL 6600 "Ice Grey" groupset, including crankset, brakes, shifters, deraillaurs, BB, chain, & cassette for about $650. The bike will have Look Keo pedals, a Cane Creek S-3 headset and FSA compact handlebars & seatpost. I should be well under $1600 total including the frameset.

This would be impossible to do at retail.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...lanetX1003.jpg

dynodonn 02-08-10 01:07 PM

Usually in a situation like this, my wife is the last second bidder, and she emphatically tells me what is going on, and makes sure that there are no interruptions until the bidding is over. If you had a similar agreement and she still did what she did, then her actions are unforgivable. But remember, there's no fury like a woman scorned. Hopefully, she'll check with you or whoever else that maybe online before resetting the modem.

big john 02-08-10 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by NOS88 (Post 10376945)
The difference between a new Indy Fab Ti Crown Jewel and the one I lost was $2,625. I can't say I'm poor, but that difference is too big for me to ignore. But none of that matters, someone else got it.

A huge difference, for sure, but if you got the new one you get to pick everything yourself, including the dimensions, and you get the warranty.
I know a lot of people have good luck with used bikes but I always buy new. I've broken so much stuff and had crashes because of it so I am leery of anything used.

wrk101 02-08-10 04:19 PM

Why are you are not using a sniping program? I have charter internet, and I can never count on my connection to function at such a critical point.

CACycling 02-08-10 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by wrk101 (Post 10377854)
Why are you are not using a sniping program? I have charter internet, and I can never count on my connection to function at such a critical point.

My thoughts exactly. It definately isn't your spouse's fault. Go to Gixen, set up your snipe and forget about it.

Louis 02-08-10 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by NOS88 (Post 10376493)
Yesterday I was bidding on an Indy Fab Ti Crown Jewel frame and fork. I was the highest bidder going into the last 30 seconds. I even had everything set up to kick in my final bid at the very last second should it be needed. All I had to do was hit the send button. With 8 seconds to go a bid came in $25 higher than my current bid. The bid I had keyed and ready to enter was $150 over that. Just as I was about to hit the send button (from previous experience I've learned that about 6 seconds is the right time to do this), the computer goes off line, as I hear my wife say, "I can't get on-line. I'm going to reset the modem." Needless to say I lost the Indy Fab by $25. Unfreaking believable! I was sooooooo close to getting a frame I've dreamed about for the last few years.

Was she laughing hysterically when this happened?:p

jppe 02-08-10 06:15 PM

Sounds we bid using the same approach. I really hate that happened to ya.........feel your pain. Wait until Valentine's day though. Maybe she was the other bidder???

NOS88 02-08-10 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by CACycling (Post 10378134)
My thoughts exactly. It definately isn't your spouse's fault. Go to Gixen, set up your snipe and forget about it.

Didn't know it existed. Thanks for the lead. I must say, however, that it is bad protocol to unplug a modem and not tell people you are doing it ahead of time. But I guess it is a case of live and learn.

miss kenton 02-08-10 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by NOS88 (Post 10378500)
Didn't know it existed. Thanks for the lead. I must say, however, that it is bad protocol to unplug a modem and not tell people you are doing it ahead of time. But I guess it is a case of live and learn.

You are not alone in your spousal computer disgruntlement. TheMister took MY Macbook to work today, instead of his, leaving me unable to complete the homework I had started.:notamused:

JanMM 02-08-10 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by miss kenton (Post 10378687)
You are not alone in your spousal computer disgruntlement. TheMister took MY Macbook to work today, instead of his, leaving me unable to complete the homework I had started.:notamused:

They look alike, huh? You need to put some pretty stickers on yours................or, maybe on his.


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