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Old 03-22-10, 11:27 AM   #1
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Saddle choices after da Vinci robotic system Prostate removal

I did a search and read an archive post on this subject...
found one mainly dealing with the surgery and what to expect........

I had my Prostate removed via. the da Vinci robotic system Aug 2009...
Only One Night stay in the hospital.....Doctor told me to stay off the bike for 6 months.....

OK it's been 6 months and I got the OK from My Doc....to ride again......YeeeHaaaa

Need to start training for a MS150 two day ride in late June 2010

HELP........

I'm looking for REAL TIME experience on which Saddle Option is the best for all us “Prostate-Less” Guys………..
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Old 03-22-10, 01:38 PM   #2
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Just hope you do not have the problem I had- it took 4 years to find a saddle that was comfortable for more than 2 weeks.

My problem was that the body kept changing internally to adjust to the lack of the prostate.--But there is hope. First of all you must get an anatonical saddle with the cutout. Get the width right and don't go for a plush saddle. Fairly firm with just a bit of give in it and the two I found that eventually worked were the San Marco "Aero" and the flite "Gel Maxl"

But saddle fit is crucial. Make certain you have the sit bones on the wings of the saddle. Adjust for and aft till you get this right. Then adjust the nose till you can barely feel it. It is there for support and not weight bearing. This may mean that you are sliding forward so either adjust the nose up a bit- and possibly bring the saddle forward. a bit. Takes a bit of time to get right- but one word of warning- It can get expensive.

I was riding MTB's and I did find that the upright position was the main cause of the problem. Once I got a bit more length into my body position- I had a lot less pain. The expense side for me came in that it cost me a new bike (Or 4) to cease the problem. I went road and on that first road bike-I lost a lot of pain. On the 2nd bike I had a higher saddle to bar height and a longer frame- That improved it a lot. So much so that I bought the 3rd bike to replace the first one that was causing butt pain still. Then walked into the LBS one day- sat on a bike and NO BUTT PAIN--- I bought it.

Have gone back to the MTB for many rides and changed the saddle- adjusted the ride stance- but the upright position is my main cause of pain- and still is to an extent.

So get the right type of saddle-Adjust it to get the weight bearing on the sit bones- Adjust the bars down so you feel that you are riding with your head between your knees and you should be fine. Worked for me.
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Old 03-23-10, 08:20 PM   #3
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Saddle for Prostate

Had the procedure two years ago at age 56, I have gotten back into riding the last year and half. Typically do my 18 mile loop 3 times a week and a longer 55 mile ride with about 4500 ft of climbing on the weekend which at 58 is enough for me. I've tried several saddles, the best I have found is the Selle Italia Gel Flow Max Flite. It has a cut out, you don't go numb and it is very comfortable. I tried the Selle Italia Prolink, I found it too hard after about 40 miles. I also tried keeping the Fizik Arione that came with my bike (LOOK 555) but I went numb and it offered little comfort. I ride a rode bike and after surgery about 8 months later I did the MS150.

One thing I'll say about the Da Vinci procedure is it works. You'll find once you start putting in the miles you don't even miss your prostrate.

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Old 03-24-10, 03:00 AM   #4
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Before and after surgery, I rode a HPV StreetMachine recumbent bike.
Then in a couple years I got back on an upright bike, often changing saddles.
A Terry Liberator seemed ok.
Then I went to a Brooks B17, which was very nice.
Next I tried a B68, not quite right - saddle is intended for a slightly different ride than it was mounted on.
Then the Brooks Imperial came out - It is great for me !!
The recumbent is still the most comfortable.
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Old 03-24-10, 04:10 PM   #5
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6 months! My doc told me a month but I cut that back to two weeks, maybe a bit more. I've been riding a Selle Anatomica for quite awhile. I knew there would be no problem. There weren't. I wouldn't trade it for any other saddle.
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Old 03-24-10, 06:21 PM   #6
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You might want to consider this one. While I haven't had your surgery, I can tell you that it is very prostate friendly.


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Did not have prostate removed but opted for seed implants instead. That was about 5 years ago.
About 3 weeks off the bike then back to my regular saddle. No problems.
Currently ride a San Marco Integra on our tandem and Fizik Alliante on my single.
Am 77 years old, still ride 100+ miles a week.
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Check out these saddles. might be the answer. Never tried but many triathlon users and they have a lot of hours in the saddle. http://www.cobbcycling.com/
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Hi, Hopefully you can use your existing saddle. Every guy heals differently to the surgery. Some feel knife like pains when sitting on their old saddle the first time and for others there is no pain. If you do have issues you may want to look at these saddles. http://www.hobsonseats.com/# Enjoy
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Risking ire from the DF racer boy crowd, why not move over to a recumbent. You probably wouldnt have waited so long to be released by your doctor to ride.
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I had da Vinci surgery a little over 2 years ago. I really did not start riding until about 1.5 years after surgery. I now average about 100 miles a week commuting to and from work about 3 times a week (35 mile round trip). Although I only ride 17.5 miles at a time, I have had no trouble with the stock saddles on the three bikes that I have ridden.
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I had my prostate removed 3 weeks ago, I'm curious as to how long I'm going to be off the bike. It was done by a non robotic method, there's still a bit of discomfort in the urethra I think. I realise I'm not near getting back on the bike yet, but 6 months waiting has knocked me about a bit. Not as much as a cancer diagnosis of course.
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Old 08-19-17, 10:19 PM   #13
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I had mine removed this past May , was two years ago . Mine was enlarged and my surgery involved reconstruction of my bladder . Although I was given the ok to ride over a year ago , every time I tried , I had issues with the bladder and scar tissue .
This week I finally got to where I can ride 3-4 miles around the neighborhood on my cruiser . It's been a long road recovering. I've missed my bike riding . Oh , and I've gained all my weight back from where I'd gotten down to 215 , plus an addition 30 , to where I'm now around 270 . .
I walk almost everyday , but the knees are starting to bother me . I need the bike .
Beats have having Cancer .
I hate painting such a dim picture of recovery , but one thing I've found is every case is different .
I'm using a Brooks B67 on an Electra Cruiser 1 . Kirby

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The daVinci robot is great. I had the lower half of my ascending colon removed, and was back on my trike after 3 weeks.
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Old 08-20-17, 01:21 PM   #15
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I had a radical in Dec 2002 at 46. At the time, I had and continued to use a Koobi Si on my MTB. This year I put a Koobi auEnduro on frankenroadbike and have trained/ridden a Metric century on it. My Domane has the factory Bontrager Affinity Comp on it with a Metric century to it's credit. I mess with fore to aft angle until I get it right...if the nose of the seat breaks the plane above level, I seem to feel that the most after a ride. Keep smiling.

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I had mine removed this past May , was two years ago . Mine was enlarged and my surgery involved reconstruction of my bladder . Although I was given the ok to ride over a year ago , every time I tried , I had issues with the bladder and scar tissue .
This week I finally got to where I can ride 3-4 miles around the neighborhood on my cruiser . It's been a long road recovering. I've missed my bike riding . Oh , and I've gained all my weight back from where I'd gotten down to 215 , plus an addition 30 , to where I'm now around 270 . .
I walk almost everyday , but the knees are starting to bother me . I need the bike .
Beats have having Cancer .
I hate painting such a dim picture of recovery , but one thing I've found is every case is different .
I'm using a Brooks B67 on an Electra Cruiser 1 . Kirby
Leather saddles spread the load across everything that touches them, including all that sensitive soft tissue. You might consider changing to a modern cut-out saddle that puts your weight on the sits bones.
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Leather saddles spread the load across everything that touches them, including all that sensitive soft tissue. You might consider changing to a modern cut-out saddle that puts your weight on the sits bones.
Thanks for the suggestion. But ,
I have just changed back to the Brooks saddle from a modern cutout saddle . A padded MTB saddle . The wider Brooks feels more comfortable on the sit bones right now . And I feel the springs help . The padded MTB saddle was too spongy . I have a box full of different saddles I tried back when I had an enlarged prostate issues . Still have a few more to retry .
I don't think there's ever been a perfect saddle built . Kirby
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For the ladt 20 years I've used saddles wit a cutout. I was back on my trainer in 6 weeks, and on the road in 8 weeks after robotic surgery. There was only a slight discomfort at first, but now it is normal. I just reached my 5 month post-op date a couple of weeks ago, and celebrated it by doing a 7 day tour with my wife and daughters. We only did 250 miles, but it was ver hiily riding.

My point is that there is light at the end of the tunnel.

That Brooks Imperial and Terry Liberator are both saddle I've used for long distance riding.

Good luck, and listen to you doctor.
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I had my prostate removed 3 weeks ago, I'm curious as to how long I'm going to be off the bike. It was done by a non robotic method, there's still a bit of discomfort in the urethra I think. I realise I'm not near getting back on the bike yet, but 6 months waiting has knocked me about a bit. Not as much as a cancer diagnosis of course.
I had the DaVinci prostate surgery in Dec 2015. I was told to stay off the bike for 2 months. I had been riding a Selle Anatomica X series saddle before the surgery and it felt comfortable on my first ride after the surgery.
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Concerning prostate issues, does anyone have any experience or thoughts to offer on the Specialized power saddle? It's one of several that I'm considering.
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/sa...er-comp/105522

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I had my prostate removed 3 weeks ago, I'm curious as to how long I'm going to be off the bike. It was done by a non robotic method, there's still a bit of discomfort in the urethra I think. I realise I'm not near getting back on the bike yet, but 6 months waiting has knocked me about a bit. Not as much as a cancer diagnosis of course.
I had a radical prostatectomy in 2003 with a lot of margin removed due to an aggressive cancer. At 12 weeks, my doc said that I could ride a bike again but don't be surprised if it's uncomfortable. I made it 0.4 of a mile and rode home standing up.

Seriously, I rode recumbents for 10 years though I ride uprights comfortably now.
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