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bobthib 05-23-10 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by bobthib (Post 10855124)
Unclip early, unclip often.

BTW, after riding for about 6 mo, I stopped doing the above. I have a little routine I follow every time. I always unclip my left foot when it is in the 9AM position (level and in front), and leave my foot on pedal as I push the right foot to the bottom. I un-clip maybe 25' before I'm going to stop, and coast like that. If I don't stop, pressing down re-clips the left foot.

If I do stop, I wait until the last second and then take my left foot off and place it on the ground just as I stop and lean left. I don't deviate from this, except when on occasion I un-clip the right foot when I have a little longer stop or something else to do.

ahsposo 05-23-10 07:10 PM

Yeah, that's good technique. I have a BAD habit of unclipping my left foot @ 3 o'clock heel inward. Causes the back heel cup of my shoe (sorry but I don't know an appropriate or precise word for it) to engage my rear wheel's spokes.

AutumnRides 05-23-10 07:14 PM

Alright, so I read over the debate and my question is tangential to the original question of to falling at stops while clipped in. Suppose your fear of getting seriously road burned or run over inspires you to practice clipping in and out on your trainer. However, you are having ridiculous difficulty getting in and out of them on your trainer. I mean you practice two hours, try shifting the cleats, and the pedals are all the way to the "easy" release setting. I have Shimano A520s which are SPD and WR40s which are SPD-SL. Does anyone have any ideas what the heck I am doing wrong? I live in a hilly/mountainous area that gets a lot of rain and has heavy traffic...until you get outside of town, thus I am a little worried about getting proficient at clipping in and out before I hit the pavement. Thank you so much.

Tom Stormcrowe 05-23-10 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by AutumnRides (Post 10855244)
Alright, so I read over the debate and my question is tangential to the original question of to falling at stops while clipped in. Suppose your fear of getting seriously road burned or run over inspires you to practice clipping in and out on your trainer. However, you are having ridiculous difficulty getting in and out of them on your trainer. I mean you practice two hours, try shifting the cleats, and the pedals are all the way to the "easy" release setting. I have Shimano A520s which are SPD and WR40s which are SPD-SL. Does anyone have any ideas what the heck I am doing wrong? I live in a hilly/mountainous area that gets a lot of rain and has heavy traffic...until you get outside of town, thus I am a little worried about getting proficient at clipping in and out before I hit the pavement. Thank you so much.

Don't sweat it.....you'll get to be a natural, very quickly.....one or two falls will see to that. ;)

LazyDave 05-23-10 11:11 PM

Back in the early 80's I bought a set of the first Look pedals available and promptly "Artied" in my driveway! I ended up on my back, holding my bike up off the concrete, still clipped in. I rode them for a long time and got used to them to the point that the muscle memory was fully operational. I stopped riding for several years and recently took the bike down and fitted it with Speedplays. I promptly "Artied" at an intersection with a grandma in a big van very attentively stopping well behind me as I tried to unclip and stand up. The muscle memory for the Looks doesn't work for the Speedplays, so I've spent the last couple of rides cruising the neighborhood, clipping in and out and practicing stops and starts. From the sound of things, I guess I have a couple more "Arties" to go through before I can stop keeling over. Thanks to all for posting such funny stories!

Metric Man 05-24-10 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by AutumnRides (Post 10855244)
Alright, so I read over the debate and my question is tangential to the original question of to falling at stops while clipped in. Suppose your fear of getting seriously road burned or run over inspires you to practice clipping in and out on your trainer. However, you are having ridiculous difficulty getting in and out of them on your trainer. I mean you practice two hours, try shifting the cleats, and the pedals are all the way to the "easy" release setting. I have Shimano A520s which are SPD and WR40s which are SPD-SL. Does anyone have any ideas what the heck I am doing wrong? I live in a hilly/mountainous area that gets a lot of rain and has heavy traffic...until you get outside of town, thus I am a little worried about getting proficient at clipping in and out before I hit the pavement. Thank you so much.

For me, the same bike, same shoes, and the same pedals on the trainer act differently...I can't explain it. The Shimano A520's are the easiest ones I've used and I would suggest just getting out and riding up and down the street in front of your house. Remember one thing...which ever foot you unclip, twist the handlebars the opposite direction as you stop. This will push the bike to the unclipped side very easily.

AutumnRides 05-24-10 08:38 AM

Thank you for the help!

The Weak Link 05-24-10 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Metric Man (Post 10856862)
The Shimano A520's are the easiest ones I've used.

I think they're a bit stiff.

The M520s are easier, IMHO. I see plenty of them on group road rides.

Metric Man 05-24-10 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by The Weak Link (Post 10857252)
I think they're a bit stiff.

The M520s are easier, IMHO. I see plenty of them on group road rides.

See there? You got me looking...and sure enough I have the M520. :o

BluesDawg 05-24-10 10:18 AM

I use the A520's on my Casseroll and agree they are a little stiff in rotation, though not so much as to be even a slight problem. I think the slight stiffness is due to their best feature, the platform surrounding the attachment area that contacts and supports the sole of the shoe. It is this contact that makes these pedals a viable option for me.

bobthib 05-25-10 06:40 AM

I got Speedplay LAs and I love 'em. Easy in, easy out. Did however pay my dues in Club Tombay. 3x. Last Year. None since. Knock wood.

TromboneAl 05-25-10 11:13 PM

After falling into a lane of the freeway, here's what I did: I went to a deserted road, and started and stopped perhaps 200 times in a row. I practiced with the left and with the right. I practiced unclipping when at all different positions. I haven't fallen since.

Also, the advice about turning the wheel seems silly (if I can remember to do that, I can remember to unclip the correct foot), but it was helpful to me.

tcs 05-27-10 07:01 AM

If all else fails....

http://www.utahtrikes.com/uploads/ut...0-quad-650.jpg

tcs

LazyDave 05-31-10 04:55 PM

I did it again, last night. That's two. One more and I guess I'm done with the initiation. I'm getting better at falling! This time, instead of going down on my elbow and knee, I tucked everything in and hit on my butt and left side of my back. The only pain from this one came from dragging my right Achilles' tendon across the teeth of the chain wheel. If I keep doing this I'm getting a yellow rain coat and hood!!

ahsposo 05-31-10 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by LazyDave (Post 10892764)
I did it again, last night. That's two. One more and I guess I'm done with the initiation. I'm getting better at falling! This time, instead of going down on my elbow and knee, I tucked everything in and hit on my butt and left side of my back. The only pain from this one came from dragging my right Achilles' tendon across the teeth of the chain wheel. If I keep doing this I'm getting a yellow rain coat and hood!!


Love your attitude! Obviously you learn from experience which leads to wisdom.

I'm still unclipping inward which is starting to seriously bug me. Thing is I rarely catch a spoke but when I do it seems I'm next to a cute young lady rider (just the other day) or otherwise in someone's eye. Besides it may be the reason my rear wheel is slightly out of true.


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