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rsbob 02-09-25 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by terrymorse (Post 23452903)
I guess that since I'm just a lad in my 67th year, I don't qualify for this thread.

But for those of us who use Garmins with power meters, check out what Garmin thinks your fitness age is. Here's mine at the moment:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...179a141bde.png
Aw shucks, Garmin! While nobody is going to look at me and think "he looks about 20 years old", I appreciate the compliment.

Of a 20 YO? Time to grow up Terry. :D

Comparing myself to the average 70 YO, I must confess I am far better looking. :D

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2cbeec9c0.jpeg

But that’s not saying I am superior in any way

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4c6a45360.jpeg

Road Fan 02-09-25 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by rsbob (Post 23448316)
you mean like this on the west channel bridge on Thursday?

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b7ba2565c.jpeg
!-90 Bike path

That looks like it could be part of a really bad day of riding!!!

Wildwood 02-10-25 07:48 PM

Compare to a 66 yo grandmother
 
I thought a ride with a 66-year-old grandmother would be easy, but she dropped me like a sack of spuds - I'd underestimated a world-class cyclist | Cycling Weekly

rsbob 02-10-25 11:31 PM

What a wonderful story. She is a trained athlete with genetic gifts but to so humble someone 20 years younger with a solid FTP made for a fun read. May she keep it up!

datlas 02-13-25 07:15 PM

I am about to turn 60, so I will be back in another 10 years. :innocent:

rsbob 02-13-25 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 23456422)
I am about to turn 60, so I will be back in another 10 years. :innocent:

Damn pranking youngsters!

mkane 02-13-25 10:23 PM

72 and mtn biking still. No cars to deal with just e-bikes.

rsbob 02-13-25 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by mkane (Post 23456508)
72 and mtn biking still. No cars to deal with just e-bikes.

Good for you. My back could not take the pounding going over boulders, logs and off drops. I see you live in Auburn. Do you ride the single track between Maidu Dr and the American River next to the overlook? I have hiked those trails up and down to the river and the climbs are a beast. Can’t remember the name of the state park.

mkane 02-14-25 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by rsbob (Post 23456524)
Good for you. My back could not take the pounding going over boulders, logs and off drops. I see you live in Auburn. Do you ride the single track between Maidu Dr and the American River next to the overlook? I have hiked those trails up and down to the river and the climbs are a beast. Can’t remember the name of the state park.

We walk there when we don’t ride. Not the best place for riding. Trails are in poor shape and straight up or down. Most of our biking is at Hidden Falls. Nice and rolling. The upper part is fairly beat up by horses walking in the mud. They should close the place for a few days after a good soaking but from what I’ve seen, doesn’t happen.

rsbob 02-14-25 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by mkane (Post 23456597)
We walk there when we don’t ride. Not the best place for riding. Trails are in poor shape and straight up or down. Most of our biking is at Hidden Falls. Nice and rolling. The upper part is fairly beat up by horses walking in the mud. They should close the place for a few days after a good soaking but from what I’ve seen, doesn’t happen.

Just thought of the name - China Bar. Funny how names disappear and then the next day - poof, they’re back. Have driven out to Hidden Falls parking area with my mom who can now only barely walk, so the falls stayed hidden. Happy trails to you.

seedsbelize2 02-20-25 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by mkane (Post 23456508)
72 and mtn biking still. No cars to deal with just e-bikes.

Same, except no e-bikes.
Frankly, 72 is not old, in my case anyway. In my head anyway

mkane 02-20-25 06:44 PM

I’m 72 also. Still doing what I did 50 years ago. A bit slower but lot’s smarter.


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Wildwood 02-21-25 04:01 PM

Being in the 73+ cycling 'crowd' = I feel obliged.....
 
..... but I am categorically opposed to comparisons of my own imagined generalizations.

Everyone jumps to data. Not being a data guy I didn't get into the thread earlier (personal stats). But for 2 days recently had access to a NordicTrack iFit machine/app so I took advantage of an opportunity to measure watts. On a 26 min ride which included a warmup the Avg Watts was 215. quick break to pee, then another 26 min program skipping the warmup, yielded 210 watts. Neither ride was intended to be a full gas effort, but was intended to be an effort slightly harder than i typically ride.

The full gas effort was scheduled for the next day, ..... just didn't happen. Guessing I could average 230-ish for 25 min, which is less than the 248 for a 60 min effort I got on this same machine about 4 years ago at the end of a good riding season.

Comparisons? when I ride with other 70+ guys - sorry, no gals that age - I almost always keep up. When I hike with guys and gals 70+ i keep up or lead. [Seems funny, never encountered competition in the 70+ crowd] When at 60+, I rode CascadeBicycleClub group B+ rides (16-19ish mph) I always kept up.

Compared to the general population = I just don't know who they are, or what they really do. :foo: But if they have been as Lucky as me (or is it "I"), they have developed and pursued a bunch of hobbies which have enriched their lives and brought many smiles to their faces.

edit: hehehehe,.... I oughta be fast, I got a lot of bikes to prove it! :D

Hike in the morning and then a short spin on this Mondia before the PNW rainy returns. (Obviously not todays's picture.)
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b1dce1cacd.jpg

terrymorse 02-21-25 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by Wildwood (Post 23461772)
.Everyone jumps to data. Not being a data guy I didn't get into the thread earlier (personal stats). But for 2 days recently had access to a NordicTrack iFit machine/app so I took advantage of an opportunity to measure watts. On a 26 min ride which included a warmup the Avg Watts was 215. quick break to pee, then another 26 min program skipping the warmup, yielded 210 watts. Neither ride was intended to be a full gas effort, but was intended to be an effort slightly harder than i typically ride.

Those are some impressive watts for anyone over 70, well done! That much power pushes me into a high zone 3/low zone 4 heart rate, even though I'm a relative youngster in my 67th year. My one advantage is being lightweight, so my 215 watts is about 3.6 W/kg (hence the "climbing has-been" moniker).

Wildwood 02-21-25 06:47 PM

I don't talk Power/Weight.
I should be a flatlander.
People like to draft me.
Small frontal is a goal.
Saddle time over speed.

edit:
Decades of practice
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2c00a6954d.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d8f2cbae9f.jpg

seedsbelize2 02-24-25 06:35 PM

72 as well. My cardiologist wants me to ride daily if possible, for circulation. Slowly because I have stable angina. And to top things off I’m on a beta blocker for arrhythmia.

mkane 02-24-25 06:48 PM

^^get it fixed. I did with 3 stents. O what a relief.

SpedFast 02-24-25 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 23456422)
I am about to turn 60, so I will be back in another 10 years. :innocent:

And this thread will still be going strong :)

seedsbelize2 02-26-25 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by dennis336 (Post 23453087)
I was out also. But, yeah, gets a bit lonely out there on the windy days near/below freezing (71 years old here so I qualify for the poll!).

If only yhere was s poll

rando_couche 02-26-25 08:54 PM

Getting back to the original topic, we 70+ riders are far cooler than the general population, because we ride bikes and they don't.

Carbonfiberboy 02-26-25 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by rsbob (Post 23447612)
I have skied at -20 and it was barely tolerable, but at least at the bottom of the hill it was a very tolerable 0. Of course for skiing, one has the equipment to stay warm. Your booties sound like a fine idea.

Ooo-ooo-ooo: So I grew up in Fairbanks, delivered papers on foot year-round, coldest day was -65°. That's pretty cold. A tire fell off a delivery truck that day, broke when it hit the ground. Yeah, old tech probably. When I was in the Army in Germany, I had a Renault R10, fabulous car, great in the snow. One time I drove down to Davos to ski. I was a poor and penny-pinching soldier, so I spent the night in the car. It was -53°F. I had a North Face down bag with ~6" of loft. I don't think anyone makes anything like that anymore - quite light for what it was - the baffles were mosquito netting. Anyway, had a fine night. The trick is to hold absolutely still. In the morning of course the car wouldn't start - battery way too cold. So I walked into town to a service station, but no luck. The fellow told me they had a backlog of about 100 cars or so. So I walked back to the car and noticed that I was parked in a turnout and it and the road had a slight downhill. So I pushed like crazy, jumped in and put it in 2nd gear and . . .it started right up. I did go skiing, did 3 runs which involved 3 long chairlift rides and that was plenty. Didn't frostbite anything. A lot of that is knowing how to exhale. War stories.

rsbob 02-26-25 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy (Post 23465427)
Ooo-ooo-ooo: So I grew up in Fairbanks, delivered papers on foot year-round, coldest day was -65°. That's pretty cold. A tire fell off a delivery truck that day, broke when it hit the ground. Yeah, old tech probably. When I was in the Army in Germany, I had a Renault R10, fabulous car, great in the snow. One time I drove down to Davos to ski. I was a poor and penny-pinching soldier, so I spent the night in the car. It was -53°F. I had a North Face down bag with ~6" of loft. I don't think anyone makes anything like that anymore - quite light for what it was - the baffles were mosquito netting. Anyway, had a fine night. The trick is to hold absolutely still. In the morning of course the car wouldn't start - battery way too cold. So I walked into town to a service station, but no luck. The fellow told me they had a backlog of about 100 cars or so. So I walked back to the car and noticed that I was parked in a turnout and it and the road had a slight downhill. So I pushed like crazy, jumped in and put it in 2nd gear and . . .it started right up. I did go skiing, did 3 runs which involved 3 long chairlift rides and that was plenty. Didn't frostbite anything. A lot of that is knowing how to exhale. War stories.

Wonderful story. Thanks for sharing.

Carbonfiberboy 02-26-25 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by rsbob (Post 23465441)
Wonderful story. Thanks for sharing.

Quite on topic, yes? Like compared to the general population . . . We're all frigging nuts.

Well, no, in fact we're the sane ones. The rest of them are all frigging nuts.

OldTryGuy 02-27-25 01:37 AM

never mind :rolleyes:

rsbob 02-27-25 11:21 AM

Am told i look far younger than my age. And then there is my mental age which is regressing even faster.

zandoval 02-27-25 11:27 AM

Truth is...

"I Am More Beat Up Than I Look"


Peruano 03-02-25 04:17 PM

One month short of 80 but riding
 
Always active but discovered bikes at 40. I ride but not as much and not as fast. Gave up the tandem after 30 hard years of service. I still buy, rescue, wrench and pass opportunistic bargain quality bikes to the bike coop, and am still a daily visitor to BF. I'm staying the course.

Carbonfiberboy 03-02-25 10:52 PM

Q!!
 

Originally Posted by Peruano (Post 23467921)
Always active but discovered bikes at 40. I ride but not as much and not as fast. Gave up the tandem after 30 hard years of service. I still buy, rescue, wrench and pass opportunistic bargain quality bikes to the bike coop, and am still a daily visitor to BF. I'm staying the course.

3 months shy of 80, 18 miles on the tandem yesterday and a fairly strong ride. But then my stoker is 4 years younger than I, still just a kid. I started at 50, so not as much time in grade, didn't buy the tandem until '07. She's like, "I can't ride as fast you you!" so I go "On the back if my bike you can." Thus the deal was done.

SusanH54 03-04-25 01:38 PM

I just turned 70 in December, I started riding again 4 years ago. I’ve been riding since I was a kid, but life got in the way as did moves (military family). Once we settled here in Florida I was wanting to get back into this. Now, I’m out on my hybrid about 4 to 5 times a week. Rain is about the only thing that keeps me indoors…and the occasional hurricane. I can see myself riding into my 80’s. I want to keep the arthritis at bay, and get my weight down….this is the way to do it.

Hermes 03-06-25 10:57 AM

My wife and I won the 2025 USA Cycling's Masters eSports Nationals Championships - 75 and 76 years old respectively. Among the elites and masters racing categories, 20 digital jerseys were handed out and we won two. eSports is interesting and there was a substantial qualification process to get an invitation to race. Weak hands were shaken out early. I think many potential participants did not want to do the work to qualify for whatever reason and the fields were small. I think over time, more cyclists will try eSports races that feature a fairly high level of control of who can participate because it puts racers on a level playing field with oversight and rules.

How do we compare against the average population in our mid seventies? We get the same BS from Garmin saying we are 20 something years old based upon their VO2 measurement. We think that is somewhat bogus and we could improve VO2, IF we wanted to train for VO2 against their measurement system. That does not support our racing goals.

We do banded rides together on Zwift. On Sunday, we did one hour and rode z2. Generally, my wife rode at 2.2-2.5 w/kg and I did the climbs at 2.5 - 3 w/kg. Usually, we had a gang of Klingons riding our wheel. We thought the Klingons did really well. Fun ride.

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