At 51, she's still at it.
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At 51, she's still at it.
Jeannie Longo won another title in the TT. Amazing.
https://velonews.competitor.com/2010/...e-trial_122899
https://velonews.competitor.com/2010/...e-trial_122899
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Her average speed over the course is a good short burst for me. Behind a bread truck. Going downhill. With a tailwind.
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Hi,
I have heard about and watch Jeannie Longo for her entire career. I also had the privilege of "racing" against her several years ago. She was preparing for the worlds in Hamilton, Canada and she ended up doing this 90 mile race in SoCal that went up San Jacinto (near Palm Springs). She finished (in the top 10?) while I DNF'ed with about 10 miles of climbing to go.
During one of the lulls on flat terrain I spoke to her for about a minute. I can't remember what we said but she was very pleasant and spoke English pretty well.
Great to see her continuing success.
I have heard about and watch Jeannie Longo for her entire career. I also had the privilege of "racing" against her several years ago. She was preparing for the worlds in Hamilton, Canada and she ended up doing this 90 mile race in SoCal that went up San Jacinto (near Palm Springs). She finished (in the top 10?) while I DNF'ed with about 10 miles of climbing to go.
During one of the lulls on flat terrain I spoke to her for about a minute. I can't remember what we said but she was very pleasant and spoke English pretty well.
Great to see her continuing success.
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She is indeed something special. I wonder what her competitors think when they see she's entered in the same event? Maybe: "Oh, not again. Will she ever retire?"
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From what I've read, her mother was a gym teacher and both parents got her and her sisters involved in various sports in their youth, not necessarily competitive sports, but sports to keep them healthy. She's always been athletic and turned to cycling when she didn't make the French national ski team. She trains hard and stays in shape. Her continued success in a demanding sport is a prime example why parents should encourage their children to be physically active and should better control their diets. Unfortunately, far too many children in this country spend too much time in sedentary activities, like computer games and watching TV. They also eat far too much processed foods that are high in trans fats. If only we could encourage healthy life habits.
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There's a thread in the road forum about this. I haven't read it, but from the title I gather the thesis is that women's cycling is a joke if a 51 yo can win. I wonder how many of those guys would say that if they raced against her. OTOH, the knock isn't really against her, but women's cycling. I can kind of see the point.
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Just went & read the road forum thread (4 pages). The consensus seems to be that she's just a great & determined rider. However, there is also a contingent that feel it is a reflection on French women's cycling (it was the French national title she won for those, like me, who didn't read the article linked to). I had never heard of her before, but don't really follow pro racing. Just the obvious well known names.
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I think an equally good measurement of athletic capability is the Olympic Games. In Beijing in 2008, Longo came in 4th in the individual time trial missing the podium by 1 second. Kristin Armstrong of the USA won. Coming in 5th was a local woman from our Webcor Builders pro team Christine Thornburn.
I cannot speak about Longo but Christine is an amazing cyclist. In our local time trial she has the record for the fastest time for women (she holds most records at most of the local time trial races) and there are only a few men that can beat her. She beats all the women - Olympian dah.
August 13, 2008: 2008 Olympic Games - Beijing: Women's time trial (23.5 km):
1 Kristin Armstrong (United States) 00:34:51:72
2 Emma Pooley (Great Britain) 0.24.29
3 Karin Thurig (Switzerland) 0.59.27
4 Jeannie Longo-Ciprelli (France) 1.00.90
5 Christine Thorburn (United States) 1.02.44
Anyone who thinks Longo is not a great cyclist and competitor or thinks women's cycling is a joke is uninformed. Longo may be one of the greatest athletes of all times. Time will tell.
I cannot speak about Longo but Christine is an amazing cyclist. In our local time trial she has the record for the fastest time for women (she holds most records at most of the local time trial races) and there are only a few men that can beat her. She beats all the women - Olympian dah.
August 13, 2008: 2008 Olympic Games - Beijing: Women's time trial (23.5 km):
1 Kristin Armstrong (United States) 00:34:51:72
2 Emma Pooley (Great Britain) 0.24.29
3 Karin Thurig (Switzerland) 0.59.27
4 Jeannie Longo-Ciprelli (France) 1.00.90
5 Christine Thorburn (United States) 1.02.44
Anyone who thinks Longo is not a great cyclist and competitor or thinks women's cycling is a joke is uninformed. Longo may be one of the greatest athletes of all times. Time will tell.
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There's a thread in the road forum about this. I haven't read it, but from the title I gather the thesis is that women's cycling is a joke if a 51 yo can win. I wonder how many of those guys would say that if they raced against her. OTOH, the knock isn't really against her, but women's cycling. I can kind of see the point.
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And why is it, Chinarider, that you can "kind of see the point" that the knock is really against women's cycling?
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Extraordinary athletes can be so at any age. Longo trained specifically for this event (TT) whereas others may not have. It also depends on the field as not all cyclists compete in all events. She was the best of the day.
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This is a very misogynistic post. I'm sure she could beat many male cyclists. It always amazes me how some think like this. I will say that the segregated male version of the sport has a muddied reputation at best that may get even worse as federal criminal probes on doping commence in earnest.
As far as the "muddied reputation" of male cycling, I agree that the same is well deserved. But that has nothing to do with the idea that a win by a 51 yo may say something about the level of the competition.
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To further the thought, perhaps the question should be, would a 51 yo Longo beat a 28 yo Longo? If not, where are all the 28 year olds who should be leading the pack? I don't think my original post or any that followed were misogynistic (unless any male having a thought about a "women's issue" is thought, by definition, to be misogynistic. An idea I reject.) If anything, my posts reflect an age bias. But as a soon to be 58 yo, I think they reflect reality. If a 51 yo male won an open pro race, my first thought would be that it must have been a weak field.
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I was just trying to see where you were coming from. If I understand it correctly, you are simply saying that Longo at age 51 won the French National TT Championship because of the low level of French women's competition, and would not have won if the younger French women cyclists were doing better. In other words, the field is not deep.
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If I understand it correctly, you are simply saying that Longo at age 51 won the French National TT Championship because of the low level of French women's competition, and would not have won if the younger French women cyclists were doing better. In other words, the field is not deep.
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Fifteen miles at 24.9 mph is pretty good. I'm not sure why she's dominating the younger women, though. It doesn't seem that fast.
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To the second, ever hear of Ned Overend?
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My friend who was a top pro raced against Jeannie a few times. She said the reason the other women didn't like her was the fact she was so hard to beat, not that she wasn't a nice person. They would get upset whenever she would show up at a race, or come out of "retirement".
Jeannie slapped my friend after a stage at the Women's Challenge one time. She doesn't know why, she thinks it was a case of mistaken identity.
Jeannie slapped my friend after a stage at the Women's Challenge one time. She doesn't know why, she thinks it was a case of mistaken identity.
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Actually she's fading. She may have won the time trial, but she only came in third in the road race (failed to win the double this year).
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Significant? Maybe yes. Maybe no.
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