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Old 05-26-11, 06:01 PM
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I wouldn't buy until I test rode the Jamis. In terms of value for the dollar it's hard to beat.
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg
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If so, then maybe that Raleigh belongs near the top of the list:



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Originally Posted by NOS88
I wouldn't buy until I test rode the Jamis. In terms of value for the dollar it's hard to beat.
On the plus side, the shop I would most like to patronize is a Jamis dealer. On the minus side, that particular model is one they've chosen not to stock for some reason.
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Originally Posted by CraigB
If so, then maybe that Raleigh belongs near the top of the list:

Looks nice. You could do worse.
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What is attractive about that Raleigh is that they don't put their name 87 times all over the frame in every blank space.
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Tough choice you have there. They all look pretty good. Did you notice that the Trek has 650c wheels? All the rest seem to have 700c. Not sure how much difference that makes, but I suspect that it will be a lot easier finding replacement tires and tubes in the 700c size.

Don't know your opinion about Bikes Direct. Also don't know your frame size. They have a Kestrel Evoke right now for $1500. That's the full price, no sales tax or delivery ... to your doorstep. A little above your price point, but once you figure in your local sales tax, it might be a wash. The biggest disadvantage is that you can't ride it first, and you have to complete the assembly yourself. Basically all you have to do is attach the handlebar to the stem, the wheels, your own pedals, and adjust to your size...then make sure the brakes and dérailleurs are set correctly. You can run through the Competitive Cyclist fit guide to get dialed in pretty close.

Hyper link to the BD Kestrel Evoke 105

Oh, the Evoke is a carbon bike.

I recently got their Dura-Ace Kestrel. Did the final assembly myself then took it to the shop for them to do all the final adjustments and check everything over. Cost less than a hundred bucks, but I knew the bike was safe to ride. (I should have saved $800 and got the Ultegra version instead.)
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Originally Posted by volosong
Did you notice that the Trek has 650c wheels?
Only in the smallest (43cm) size.
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg
Only in the smallest (43cm) size.
You are correct! I did not read close enough. I thought that was "weird" to do something like that.
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Originally Posted by volosong
Don't know your opinion about Bikes Direct. Also don't know your frame size. They have a Kestrel Evoke right now for $1500. That's the full price, no sales tax or delivery ... to your doorstep. A little above your price point, but once you figure in your local sales tax, it might be a wash. The biggest disadvantage is that you can't ride it first, and you have to complete the assembly yourself. Basically all you have to do is attach the handlebar to the stem, the wheels, your own pedals, and adjust to your size...then make sure the brakes and dérailleurs are set correctly. You can run through the Competitive Cyclist fit guide to get dialed in pretty close.
I appreciate the thought, and I don't have anything against carbon other than cost. But that particular model from BD isn't available in my size anyway, plus even after tax is figured in, it's still at least a couple hundred more than I'll be able to spend.

I know BD can be a polarizing topic on internet bike forums. They seem to have a lot of fans, and occasional detractors. In general I have no problem with their bikes as far as perceived quality and value go. What bothers me more, and I admit I may be way off base here if I've misunderstood their business model, is that they appear to have obtained the rights to the names of some venerable old bike lines that aren't around any more, and are using them for whatever cache they might bring. Dawes, Mercier, Windsor and Motobecane in particular. I'm not sure about Kestrel, as I see those available from other sources. I'd have a little more respect for BD if they just made up their own name for their own e-commerce bikes, like Fezzari did. Sure, it's a goofy name, but at least it's theirs.

I mean no disrespect to anyone who has and enjoys a BD bike. But that's the thing that bothers me about them.
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If it were my money and a bike for myself, I'd get either the Scott, Cananondale, or Giant ... then spend 50-60 bucks to put 105 brakes on it. I don't think you really can go wrong with any of them on your list.
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A quick update:

After a weekend of test rides that included the Trek, Raleigh, Bianchi, Felt ('10 and '11 versions of the Z85) and Cannondale, the decision has been made. It's going to be the C'dale Synapse Alloy 5. The others were all nice and fun, though the Bianchi had a little too aggressive frame geometry for me, but the Cannondale felt like I was riding on a newly paved asphalt road. Smoothest thing I've ever felt on two wheels, but still plenty responsive. Plus the shop is super customer-service oriented, to the point of having "unlimited" test rides - they say if you want to take it out for a metric to see how you like it over distances greater than a spin around the parking lot, they're happy to let you do it. And their bike prices include an extremely thorough lifetime fitting service. It's a cool little shop. I'm going to take the bike out this evening for their Thursday night shop ride to see how it feels on a ride of an hour or two.
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Old 06-09-11, 02:41 PM
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Crap, I'm too late. I was going to tell you to get the Cannondale Synapse Alloy 5 105 in a 56 cm. Then you could send it to me and I'd send you my 2011 Specialized Tarmac Elite (CF).
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The shop ride went great and the bike was a blast to ride. I think I'm in love. I put a deposit on the bike when I got back to the shop. Now it's just a matter of paying it off.
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Good choice on the bike. I know that the others are possibly about the same on spec and feel but when you get the chance to try the various bikes in a near back to back test--There will be one that says "Buy Me". That Synapse found you and you listened so treat it right and get it out for a decent ride for Pie and Pics.
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Originally Posted by CraigB
...And their bike prices include an extremely thorough lifetime fitting service...
That alone is worth a few coin. Enjoy your new wheels. Ride safe and ride often.
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I'm hoping to pull the trigger on a Jamis Quest very soon. It'll be my first road bike in over 25 years! weee
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Originally Posted by CraigB
A quick update:

After a weekend of test rides that included the Trek, Raleigh, Bianchi, Felt ('10 and '11 versions of the Z85) and Cannondale, the decision has been made. It's going to be the C'dale Synapse Alloy 5. The others were all nice and fun, though the Bianchi had a little too aggressive frame geometry for me, but the Cannondale felt like I was riding on a newly paved asphalt road. Smoothest thing I've ever felt on two wheels, but still plenty responsive. Plus the shop is super customer-service oriented, to the point of having "unlimited" test rides - they say if you want to take it out for a metric to see how you like it over distances greater than a spin around the parking lot, they're happy to let you do it. And their bike prices include an extremely thorough lifetime fitting service. It's a cool little shop. I'm going to take the bike out this evening for their Thursday night shop ride to see how it feels on a ride of an hour or two.
It sounds like you've found yourself a good LBS and they have the bike you want. My favorite LBS is similar - I can drop in if my bike is having issues and they will take a look at it on the spot. If it's something small they'll fix it right then.
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Looks like a really nice ride. I've heard a lot of good things about the Cannondale active vibration damping. Pretty similar to the Zertz scheme that Specialized uses.
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Bump to show the first pics of the bike at rest with its stablemates. After a couple hundred miles to get to know it, I'll arrange for the comprehensive fit session(s). Sorry for the odd angle, and all the clutter, but these were just quick grab shots out in the garage. I can try for better stuff later...or against the obligatory garage door, if really necessary.





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That's a great looking bike Craig!! You are going to love it more and more as you put on the miles. I bought my Synapse in 2006 and have many thousands of miles on it. I still get that same feeling of excitement as you describe when ever I ride, it's that comfy and fun. Good choice.
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Nice looking bike, but why is there a croker sack tied under the saddle? Are you using the bike to haul feed for livestock?
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I just bought a Jamis Endura 1 full carbon frame bike about 3 weeks ago. I've put on about 200 miles so far and I really like it. The best part is I got a great deal from Fitness Resource. They are closing out the 2010 model for 1199. This is a little more relaxed frame but if I remove the spacers I can still get the handle bars into a low position. It has 105 components but not crank. I tried a couple other bikes but it was hard to beat the 1199 price. Also at 50 years old the full carbon really helps the fatigue on the body.
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg
Nice looking bike, but why is there a croker sack tied under the saddle? Are you using the bike to haul feed for livestock?
Hey, that's a gen-you-wine antique Kirtland TourPak tire sock/tool bag! It's so old it doesn't even have a zipper - just a drawstring closure.
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Originally Posted by Mothgrey
I just bought a Jamis Endura 1 full carbon frame bike about 3 weeks ago. I've put on about 200 miles so far and I really like it. The best part is I got a great deal from Fitness Resource. They are closing out the 2010 model for 1199. This is a little more relaxed frame but if I remove the spacers I can still get the handle bars into a low position. It has 105 components but not crank. I tried a couple other bikes but it was hard to beat the 1199 price. Also at 50 years old the full carbon really helps the fatigue on the body.
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Considering I posted pics of the bike I just bought, the helpfulness quotient is reduced considerably.

Seriously, though, I'm glad you got a great bike for yourself. The Enduras are nice bikes, but a bit beyond my price range. Ride it in good health.

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Hey, that's a gen-you-wine antique Kirtland TourPak tire sock/tool bag! It's so old it doesn't even have a zipper - just a drawstring closure.
I'm sure it is a great bag. I'd move it over to that yellow bike to the left of your new C'dale and find a smaller black bag for the new ride.
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