http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4...eature=related

"You can't handle the truth!"

Lots of folks are swimming in that river that flows through Egypt.

"Lance's problem is that 60 Minutes is a real news organization "

This is the most laughable statement in this whole post. 60 Minutes = kings of Yellow Journalism for a long long time.

Truthfully speaking, ah, this pretty much sums it up.

I know that it's very popular to say that. I also know that there are several high profile examples of stories they blew. But, over a very long period of time, I think their record of breaking real news -- important news -- is unparalleled in broadcast journalism, at least in the U.S.

"Everybody lies" -- Dr Gregory House
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yeah 60 minutes is actually one of the last bastions of "real" journalism.

Wikipedia says Yellow Journalism is "is a type of journalism that presents little or no legitimate well-researched news and instead uses eye-catching headlines".. that sounds like the exact definition of every cable news network a lot more than it sounds like "60 Minutes"

The truth is always important. If you don't believe that there's no point in having the conversation.

That attitude is exactly why in 1969 during Basic in Ft. Jackson and after being Soldier of the Month (and intent on becoming a Green Beret) I had a "defining moment" and got myself out of the military ASAP.

Just hope more and more people are seeing thru the typical media outlets and their "stories". It's amazing what they have people believing.

I'm not saying Lance did not use drugs. Not saying he did. Just glad people are seeing thru the ruse that is our media.

The biggest news story I can imagine would be finding that any member of the MSM, of which CBS is one of the founders, gave a rats a$$ about the truth.

Your comment made me chuckle a bit. My father was a drill instructor, and I understand only too well the "military mind set". I grew up with daily inspections, receiving a new foot locker for Christmas about every other year, the relentless message that I was far from being what I could become with harder work, attention to following orders, and a level of "discipline" most would find unusual, to say the least. By the time I was 18 I pretty much stopped taking orders from anyone, in the context of the singular hierarchal military theory of leadership. With that said, I'm quite comfortable these days with truth as a concept that is based primarily on beliefs, and knowing that beliefs don't have to be rational.

More in the "if you can't refute the message, then attack the messenger" vein. Which parts of the CBS story do you claim to be inaccurately reported? If you can't provide a cogent, fact-based response to that question, maybe you should think twice about your blanket characterization of the network.

I'm hoping you don't really believe that, and you're just repeating a rant you heard somewhere.

AzTallRider and I have debated LA before, with me giving LA the benefit of the doubt. I am less inclined to grant that benefit now, in light of Tyler Hamilton testifying before a grand jury. Since the perjury conviction of Barry Bonds, Hamilton's testimony must be taken more seriously. We really don't know what Hincapie's testimony was, so no need to speculate.
I have often stated I hope LA did not dope, but, would not be suprised if he did. As a cancer survivor I would hate anyting to affect the Lance Armstrong Foundation.
Last, for the top riders of that time period, I feel the playing field was level.

I'm totally with you.