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RTR Fatality 67 yo man falls, wife riding ahead
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_18265824
Having done RTR twice - many years ago - I have some concerns about "flatlanders" from low elevations coming to CO and then having just ridden a 12,000 foot pass, generally not expecting what turns out to be a very cold night with frost and likely not-sleeping well in crowded and cold tent facilities or a poorly ventilated and crowded gym, then attempting another 12,000 foot pass the next day. I don't know the particulars of this situation, and it may not fit the above scenario, but I do know there have been many serious accidents, some critical, and a number of deaths over the years on RTR. I witnessed one myself, when a rider went down in a crowd in front of me, breaking her pelvis. I don't, however, know the solution (if one is required). |
According to the Denver Post that last death was a woman in 2005. My neighbors knew her. She pulled alongside a RV at a stop sign. She stood to accelerate as the RV took off. A mirror on the RV struck her head.
There are 6-7 deaths at the ski resorts each ski season. Mainly due to people skiing too fast for their skill level and striking trees. |
Originally Posted by CHAS
(Post 12785723)
According to the Denver Post that last death was a woman in 2005. My neighbors knew her. She pulled alongside a RV at a stop sign. She stood to accelerate as the RV took off. A mirror on the RV struck her head.
There are 6-7 deaths at the ski resorts each ski season. Mainly due to people skiing too fast for their skill level and striking trees. I guess, life simply has risks, and one of them is death. I remember on the Peak-to-Peak Highway going into Estes Park, we encountered a thunderstorm. Now, thunderstorms in CO are NEVER warm - they are always freezing, even in June. There were some Florida folks riding near me who were totally unprepared - they just could not fathom ahead of time in their planning hail, ice, snow, etc., in June. However, freezing as they were, they survived. |
Originally Posted by DnvrFox
(Post 12785756)
Now, thunderstorms in CO are NEVER warm - they are always freezing, even in June.
I was near the top of Golden Gate Cyn when all hell broke loose. All I had was a rain jacket. I was hypothermic in just minutes. THANK GOODNESS for that campground office in which I took refuge! Ever since then, I take a helmet cover, rain jacket, and rain pants. |
A few years ago, the coldest day I paddled all year on a river happened on the Blue River out of Silverthone, Co on July 4th. It snowed. I paddled all year back here in NC and never was quite as cold as that day. I paddled Clear Ck near Idaho Springs, Co and got caught in a mother of a hail storm. That was a fun day too. lol
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As to the OP, I was on a ride this spring where a guy fell over and died while riding a tandem with his wife. He was a fit rider in his mid 50s. You never know. But, I would say that riding is better for you than just sitting on the couch.
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Well, it says the previoius woman killed was from Boulder, so I don't know that it indicates a flatlander problem per se.
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I was on I-70 near Avon yesterday and saw some of the RTR riders. It's my understanding that the death occured
between Tenessee Pass and Minturn. If so, I rode that stretch last week on a motorcycle, and the downhill switchbacks are pretty tricky. I came close to hitting a bicyclist as he pulled out in front of me as I was going by and I was forced to change lanes. I've bicycled this stretch several times over the years, but always uphill from Minturn to Leadville. I've done RTR a couple of times, and never really enjoyed it due to so many people on the roads... many, if not most of them oblivious to the dangers of mountain riding. Last week near Redcliff (Leadville / Tennessee Pass to Minturn / Vail) http://www.yostwerks.com/Key5JunI.jpg |
Originally Posted by StephenH
(Post 12786517)
Well, it says the previoius woman killed was from Boulder, so I don't know that it indicates a flatlander problem per se.
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I've done RTR a couple of times, and never really enjoyed it due to so many people on the roads... many, if not most of them oblivious to the dangers of mountain riding. |
When you get riders doing 50+ mph...well...things happen.
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Originally Posted by Monoborracho
(Post 12787287)
When you get riders doing 50+ mph...well...things happen.
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First of all very tragic. I have not heard of the circumstances here at RtR. There were numerous Patrolmen on that stretch and I thought it was very well managed re traffic and awareness.
I don't recall any serious, sharp curves on the descent. I just let it roll and didn't hit the brakes until Minturn. The curves are a thrill to me as they are not nearly technical as many in the NC/SC mountains are. I don't know of anything else RtR can do without discriminating. We should be aware of our skill levels and participate accordingly. I did run into an issue today where I was going faster than vehicles on a descent. They easily could have passed riders and gotten on out of the way but chose not to. I was tempted to scoot around them but didn't want to make a bad situation worse. But I paid a lot of money to "go fast" down the descents! But I'm also commited to doing it safely. Prayers for the riders family. (I've told my wife if something happens where I'm critically injured while riding to celebrate at my funeral as I was probably riding over the edge of my abilities and loving it) |
RIP to the rider and condolences to his family and friends.
As the article is (purposely?) sketchy, we'll likely never know what caused his demise. Brad |
I have never ridden in the mountains of Colorado at any time in my life, but I do know about the sudden change of climate. I was stationed in Cheyenne, WO back in 65 and 66. Went to a downtown movie on a July evening with a short sleeve shirt on and came out of the theater to freezing temperature and a hail storm. Next morning there was snow on the ground. I took photos and sent them home to my parents because nobody would believe me if I told them it snowed in July.
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Originally Posted by bradtx
(Post 12788315)
RIP to the rider and condolences to his family and friends.
As the article is (purposely?) sketchy, we'll likely never know what caused his demise. Brad |
I have never understood how people who live in Colorado survive without oxygen. I get dizzy and want to lie down just thinking about going to 12,000 feet. We took a vacation to Rocky Mountain National Park several years ago, which was truly great, but we lowlanders have different needs than the anaerobic denizens of Colorado.
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Originally Posted by kerlenbach
(Post 12788627)
i have never understood how people who live in colorado survive without oxygen.
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From a Missouri Bicycling Forum
Some sad news today--Jim DeBlois of Cape Girardeau, an avid cyclist from the Cape Girardeau area, active in the Velo Girardeau bicycle club, and a MoBikeFed member and sup porter, was killed yesterday while descending a mountain pass during the Ride the Rockies bicycle tour in the Colorado mountains. My most vivid memory of Jim was at Bicycle & Pedestrian Day at the Capitol a few years ago. Jim and his wife, Renate, spent the day visiting legislators. Jim was wearing a tie with a pattern made of small bicycles (but subtle--from a distance it looks like a regular tie and only when you get within a few inches do you see the pattern is made of bicycles). Near the end of the day, Jim, Renate, and I were chatting and Jim asked if I own a bicycle tie. When I said no, Jim took his tie off right then and there and insisted on giving it to me . I've been wearing it ever since when meeting with officials or legislators about bicycle-related issues--it's my "lucky" tie. Thanks, Jim--because your tie has brought MoBikeFed a lot of good luck in the past coupl e of years, and we needed it! Our thoughts are with the DeBlois family and friends at this difficult time. |
It is always a tragic event when a life is cut short, especially an activist who was working to make cycling better for all. But at least, he died doing what he loved, following his passion. I don't want to think of the effect that seeing the accident had on his wife, though.
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I just got a call from a co-worker who wanted assurance that I wasn't the bike rider who was killed. I wish I was in shape to do RtR, but I'm glad that I'm still alive. When Jim woke up this morning he had no idea that today would be his last. I guess it's good to remind ourselves that we should strive to make every day a good one.
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I only wish that when it is my time to "bite the big one" that I am doing something I love in such a beautiful location. Much better than a lot of situations that we all can imagine.
I think congratulations are in order for a life well lived. |
Originally Posted by DnvrFox
(Post 12785598)
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_18265824
Having done RTR twice - many years ago - I have some concerns about "flatlanders" from low elevations coming to CO and then having just ridden a 12,000 foot pass, generally not expecting what turns out to be a very cold night with frost and likely not-sleeping well in crowded and cold tent facilities or a poorly ventilated and crowded gym, then attempting another 12,000 foot pass the next day. I don't know the particulars of this situation, and it may not fit the above scenario, but I do know there have been many serious accidents, some critical, and a number of deaths over the years on RTR. I witnessed one myself, when a rider went down in a crowd in front of me, breaking her pelvis. I don't, however, know the solution (if one is required). I do agree that folks need to be prepared for much cooler weather than they get at home. One summer in the Canadian Rockies I was wearing everything I had brought while the locals were in T-shirts and singing the praises of the lovely summer weather. Since I had just ridden up from the Sacramento Valley with its typical 105F afternoons, the 45F rainy afternoons along the Icefields Parkway seemed more like winter to me. |
If I recall, most of the passes in CO have very gentle grades (6%) I rode Loveland Pass last week, and will be doing it again today. Below is a description of both Loveland and Independence Pass ... another of my favorites. http://mybicycleroutes.com/xlovelandpassinfopage.html - Loveland Pass http://mybicycleroutes.com/xindepend...sinfopage.html - Independence Pass Loveland Pass at about 11,500ft last week just before the last swithchback and final climb to the top. The grade gets pretty steep in this section of the 8.5 mile climb from Keystone. It sure feels a lot steeper than it did 25 years ago :eek: http://www.yostwerks.com/LoveD.jpg These Bighorn sheep have no problems adapting to the altitude. ( Near A-Basin ski area last week) http://www.yostwerks.com/LoveB1.jpg There are easier ways to ride a bike to the summit ... http://www.yostwerks.com/STFJRBreckB.jpg |
Originally Posted by BikeWNC
(Post 12786236)
A few years ago, the coldest day I paddled all year on a river happened on the Blue River out of Silverthone, Co on July 4th. It snowed. I paddled all year back here in NC and never was quite as cold as that day. I paddled Clear Ck near Idaho Springs, Co and got caught in a mother of a hail storm. That was a fun day too. lol
You can call me Anerobic. The grass pollen brings asthma. Not the best thing for living at 9000 feet. I have done some stupid things descending mountain passes. Have become more cautious, but that took a few surgeries. I used to ride with Velo Girardeau when I lived south of Cape Girardeau. Wondering whether I knew that guy. |
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