Out of control dogs are out numbered by stupid a-hole cyclists 100 to 1.

I call him Bruno the Wonder Dog, because he is always wondering about something.
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And, I thought you were talking about the L.A. Doggers. :)

I'm guessing the methodology used to collect your survey data has a bias.

Naw, we are not bankrupt yet.

I'm still rooting for the 1954 Giants and Willie.

Definition of stupid a-hole cyclist by nice friendly dog owner: cyclist riding on my road

I once "let" a dog chase me by adjusting my speed so that he could just barely keep up. About five miles later he gave it up and I went on with my ride. Don't know what ever became of that dog. bk

I was named after Donald Meuller!

I remember him well. Excellent hitter.

Yes, because motorists are legitimately concerned I'm going to bite them.

We have a doberman. When in our yard (1.15 acre, fenced in) she does not have a leash. When off property, she is always on leash. We do not use those retractable leashes, but a leather leash about 5 feet long. Yesterday, I am finishing my ride, wife is walking the dog off property. I saw them a short distance before coming up on them. Did not stop or slow down, however I waved to my wife. The dog barely looked at me, kept on walking. She does not bark or try to chase other dogs, people, cyclists, cars, etc when off property (when crossing others on the same sidewalk, the leash becomes a short leash). On property, she will bark at anything passing on the road, but that is it, she does not run after them. Funny part is that when on a walk, if we pass another yard with a dog that is running the fence and barking, all she does is stop on the grass, looks at them, pees, and walks off..................

I can't tell you the number of times I've wished for the freedom of being a dog! :)

Dogs like to win....

You chase them, they get away, they win.

You run from the dog, they chase and catch you, they win.

I've had dogs. They were always with the dope on a rope.

Years ago we had a big, dumb, friendly female german shepherd mix that would check out other dogs that might be walking down our street, but never seemed to show interest in people walking down the street.
One day I was working in the garden and the dog was hanging around with me when suddenly she took off running, giving a couple of short, mean sounding barks. I turned and saw she was heading right at a jogger. I shouted out NO! and took off after her. She stopped about 10 ft from the jogger, who was frightened out of wits. I apologized up & down to the guy, and felt like a heel.
I really never thought she would chase someone.

I guess we are really lucky here. On all my rides, the dog owners are attentive, hear my bell, and quickly confine and hold their dogs. I guess we bicyclers have trained them well. Oh, I also always say "Thank you" or something similar to the dog owner, and they smile.


As my grandmother used to say, a little sugar goes a long way:)

We have a dog that chases us down a 2 lane county highway we ride. Owners just watch. I let the wife get a half a block or so ahead of me, I give him a good kick in the nads when i catch up. Sfter about 4 times of this he quit. Owner was pissed. On the oposite end of town a big old lab loves to run with us, I always end up taking him home. I own three dogs and love all animals. I think it is the owners fault not the animals.
BillMc

You love all animals yet you kick the dog "in the nads"? WTF do you do if you hate something?

It's always the owners' fault. And, the dogs often pay for their stupidity.

I didn't realize that I had to provide full details of the MUP in order to avoid unwanted advice. The MUP is divided like a road even with little yellow lines just like the road. Do I need to tell you that I am well within the cautionary limits? And on my side of the lane? Thanks for jumping to the wrong conclusion though...

I figure a little kick in the nads is better then pepper spray or a BB gun as some bikers do.
BillMc

Had an interesting encounter with a dog and owner. Last week a Pit mix that lives at a farm on a usual route chased me and my gf down the street. I've ridden this route for three yrs. and this was the first time I'd seen the dog. A few days ago I was riding solo past the same farm when the dog came out at me. This time it was in front of me and I had no place to go. So, I stopped and contemplated reaching for the pepper spray I carry. But, as I watched the dog come toward me I was sure it wasn't in attack mode. Then I heard the owner yelling, "Bad dog. Come back here." The owner was a young woman who came running from the yard. The dog turned around and went back to her. She then began apologizing profusely saying things like, "I'm so sorry. Did she bite your tires?" I was thinking, "Tires? That's the least of my worries." But, I just said, "No." She continued to apologize saying the dog chased after bicycle tires. (So, this has happened before then?) When she finally stopped apologizing and took a breath, I said, " I have two dogs myself. I love dogs. What really worries me is that your dog will run out in the street to chase a bicycle one of these days and get hit by a car. That would break my heart." I then went on to tell her that we had an Invisible Fence set up at our house and we no longer worry about our dogs running into the street. She thanked me for being so understanding and I didn't have to tell her that if her dog bit me I'd beat the hell out of it and possible her. I actually try to be reasonable before going into "f*ck You" mode. And, she was quite sincere in here apology. This was the same day I later crashed my Masi so I haven't been back on it yet and don't know if she's actually done anything to protect her dog from itself. I hope she has. I did my best.

I'd love to carry a mace; never runs out of ammo, and it's far more satisfying than shooting an attacking animal, but Texas has all those dumb club prohibitions.

It's crazy; I'm licensed to drop a .44 in my bag, and wouldn't even need the license to have my shotgun slung over my shoulder, but there's not even a license available for carrying a mace, ASP or PR-24.

FIFY.

If you can't control your dog, it's going to get hurt. If your solution to the victim defending themselves from your uncontrolled animal is to attack them yourself, you're going to get hurt too.