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Old 11-18-12, 02:48 PM
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New to riding but.... Really?

Here I am 18 miles into my longest ride ever (21 is my max). I hear behind me coming up a couple of riders. so I move to the right and let em pass.. I say " good morning" . The older of the 2 says "We have been watching you for a while and I only have 3 things to say". I say " ride more?" He says "yea but no..." Then he says Bike shoes, Bike Shoes, Bike Shoes..." I smile and say thanks.. as I think to myself I am wearing MTB shoes clipped in. Then the old guy says watch my heel.. see more power for free." I smile and say "thanks.." Then he says "just keep riding its good to see more out here" as he and his friend pull away on their all carbon bikes with the best kit you can buy on.. As I watched them motor on (with ease I might say) all I can say is WOW.
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Old 11-18-12, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Greyride View Post
... all I can say is WOW.
All I can say is, anyone who spends their time telling complete strangers that they aren't riding right is heading for a smack.
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Old 11-18-12, 03:00 PM
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Patronising gits.
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Old 11-18-12, 03:28 PM
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+1 on gits. That certainly deserves a "Thanks. You know your fork is bent, right?" as a reply.
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Old 11-18-12, 03:28 PM
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At least they talked to you.
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Old 11-18-12, 04:10 PM
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So ok I ask the question. Are MTB shoes good enough to bike with or do I need Road Shoes?
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Old 11-18-12, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Greyride View Post
So ok I ask the question. Are MTB shoes good enough to bike with or do I need Road Shoes?
MTB shoes are good enough. I use them -minus the cleat- with traditional clips and straps.
The nice thing with that: if you have a mechanical failure you can't fix, at least you can walk.
Kind of hard to do that with cleated road shoes.

Some riders are friendly, some aren't. Just have fun.
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Old 11-18-12, 04:41 PM
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There are a lot of folks riding their road bikes with MTB shoes & SPD pedals, including me. In fact a lot of touring riders prefer the SPD setup as they are much easier to walk in than either the Speedplay or Shimano SL pattern shoes with cleats. This means that you don't have to change shoes every time you spend any time off the bike.

You probably did the best thing you could do by saying "Thanks" and letting him pedal off into the distance.
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Originally Posted by Greyride View Post
So ok I ask the question. Are MTB shoes good enough to bike with or do I need Road Shoes?

If they are not-Then I have been doing it wrong for the last 6 years (Since I went road).
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Old 11-18-12, 04:52 PM
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I'm guessing they were trying to be helpful. Had they passed you while rolling their eyes and saying "newbies..." under their breath, then I think some of the annoyance posted thus far might be warranted.

No, you don’t NEED road shoes. You might find that at some point you want them.
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Old 11-18-12, 04:54 PM
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Sheesh! Do-gooders. "Ride more" is the right response. Folks in our age band tend to ride at our own chosen speed.
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Old 11-18-12, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Greyride View Post
Here I am 18 miles into my longest ride ever (21 is my max). I hear behind me coming up a couple of riders. so I move to the right and let em pass.. I say " good morning" . The older of the 2 says "We have been watching you for a while and I only have 3 things to say". I say " ride more?" He says "yea but no..." Then he says Bike shoes, Bike Shoes, Bike Shoes..." I smile and say thanks.. as I think to myself I am wearing MTB shoes clipped in. Then the old guy says watch my heel.. see more power for free." I smile and say "thanks.." Then he says "just keep riding its good to see more out here" as he and his friend pull away on their all carbon bikes with the best kit you can buy on.. As I watched them motor on (with ease I might say) all I can say is WOW.
I didn't realize that power was the only concern...
... I'm glad he straightened out that little misconception...

Next time pull out in front him and stop -- see if he falls over... (Or would that be flagged for "unsportsman like conduct"?)
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Old 11-18-12, 04:59 PM
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you can walk like a non Duck in MTB shoes, because the cleat is recessed .
Road racer shoes you take them off , or damage the cleat.

There are some 'Touring shoes ' basically a Mountain Bike shoe
with a smooth outsole rather than lugged, for dirt hiking traction..
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I have used Shimano riding sandals - summer and winter - for years and years. I wonder what they would say about them - OTOH, I don't give a dam.
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Old 11-18-12, 05:11 PM
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Sounds to me like they were being dicks. Why should they care what shoes a stranger wears?
A fast rider will be fast regardless of the shoes or (to a point) the bike he is riding.
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You received the polite but ignorant advice because he was talking to a stranger.
If you were his friend, he would have said, "My bike is nicer than your bike."

Twits like that will often tell you, "My bike is a: (sounds like italian ice cream flavor.)"
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Originally Posted by DnvrFox View Post
I have used Shimano riding sandals - summer and winter - for years and years. I wonder what they would say about them - OTOH, I don't give a dam.
One of the really strong guys I used to ride with would show up with Shimano sandals sometimes and drop the doubters long behind.
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Originally Posted by Greyride View Post
So ok I ask the question. Are MTB shoes good enough to bike with or do I need Road Shoes?
Greyride, you already have your answers. Just a comment to confirm a lot of responders. My best friend, who is in his seventies, can still kick my butt on a road bike! In fact, he can do the same for most 20-30 year olds in our area that are level A riders. Guess what, he wears MTB shoes because they are comfortable!!!

Guess you now have some incentive to show them up some time in the future, but I would not waste my time

Just enjoy the ride!
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Bike Shoes=Road Shoes=Mountain Shoes

Wonder if they would have waved back?
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Bike Shoes=Road Shoes=Mountain Shoes

Wonder if they would have waved back?
Sheesh! I don't think they're do-gooders so much as they're trying to prove their superiority to themselves. Ya just gotta roll your eyes because they won't even hear your reply. One time I was riding my hybrid home from work. As I was coasting up to a red light, some guy on a road bike came alongside and said, "you need to raise your seat." Then he blew through the red light and cruised down the road. I would have caught him even after waiting for the light, but it wasn't worth missing my turn in a couple of blocks. For the next week, I rode my recumbent so that if I saw him I could pull alongside and say, "you need a faster bike," then blow him away. Never saw him again, though.
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Originally Posted by DnvrFox View Post
At least they talked to you.
This is what I was thinking. They were just being friendly, albeit in a rather clumsy way.

I would have thanked then and just kept on moving on. When i started riding I had strangers offer me advice; some of it was good. some was OK and some was just worthless. I took the good and disregarded the rest. It made me a better rider.

OP, you wrote: as he and his friend pull away on their all carbon bikes with the best kit you can buy on Would you have felt better if the other riders were riding old Sears Free Spirit gas pipe bikes and wearing tee-shirts and cargo shorts? Just wondering why you had to include this sentence.

Too many other more important things to worry about.

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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
you can walk like a non Duck in MTB shoes, because the cleat is recessed .
Road racer shoes you take them off , or damage the cleat.

There are some 'Touring shoes ' basically a Mountain Bike shoe
with a smooth outsole rather than lugged, for dirt hiking traction..
Or you can carry some plastic cleat covers, which make the cleats even bigger, and do an extreme duck walk but not damage the cleats.

As for me, with size 51 (15) dogs, I'm thrilled when I can find any shoe that fits comfortably. I had to resort to making my own road shoes a few years back. Old school, of course (cork-covered wood sole).
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
This is what I was thinking. They were just being friendly, albeit in a rather clumsy way.
Thats what I think, too. I'd guess their "advice" was a convenient excuse to chat and maybe they were passing on what works for them. It's rare that anyone speaks to me on a ride.

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I'm surprised that so many here were offended by their comments. I took it as friendly and good advice. Whether you take it or get all offended is up to you. I, for one, am comfortable with the theory that certain kit are made for certain events. Can you play basketball in loafers? Sure. But it's really up to you.
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Old 11-19-12, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by B. Carfree View Post
Or you can carry some plastic cleat covers, which make the cleats even bigger, and do an extreme duck walk but not damage the cleats.

As for me, with size 51 (15) dogs, I'm thrilled when I can find any shoe that fits comfortably. I had to resort to making my own road shoes a few years back. Old school, of course (cork-covered wood sole).
Or you can buy Sidi shoes with a nice, large (and replaceable) heel pad and not worry about the duck walk.

WOW, you cobbled your new shoes...impressive!
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