What do old people ride, lets see your bike[s]
10-26-21, 10:03 AM
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^^^ That's why I always draft a roadie when riding my upright city bike 
True stories:
I've received some props from a local B group when I held their wheel while commuting home, I got dropped once the road got hillier and I was heavy with laptop, clothes, and other commuter crap.
I've been yelled at for drafting a roadie on a busy greenway, so I passed and dropped them. (Bluntly stated, on Midtown Greenway in Minneapolis during rush hour, it's damned hard not to end up pacing someone ... so many bikes and few options to safely pass)
Full-on Fred kit with my Globe Daily 2:
True stories:
I've received some props from a local B group when I held their wheel while commuting home, I got dropped once the road got hillier and I was heavy with laptop, clothes, and other commuter crap.
I've been yelled at for drafting a roadie on a busy greenway, so I passed and dropped them. (Bluntly stated, on Midtown Greenway in Minneapolis during rush hour, it's damned hard not to end up pacing someone ... so many bikes and few options to safely pass)
Full-on Fred kit with my Globe Daily 2:
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10-26-21, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DQRider
Please pardon my repost, but I recall having almost this same discussion on the Old English 3-Speeds thread:
Edit: I take it back, that curve looks way low. Here is a comparison chart from Rainer Privit’s article on Sheldon Brown’s website. He includes the relevant parameters for the different bike types.
Link to full article:
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/aero/formulas.html
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10-26-21, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ofajen
That looks like a road bike power curve.
Otto
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Notes on the calculator:
Please be aware that we've made some assumptions in order to simplify this calculation. For instance, this calculator does not take into account the body position (or size) of the rider in regard to wind resistance. In addition, other factors, such as the coefficient of friction are fixed.
This tells me that an upright rider dressed in regular street clothes or partial "Fred kit" would face an even steeper drag curve than the one illustrated. Experience has taught me that I can keep up 10-15 mph all day long, but anything faster than that is just not worth the effort. So I gear my bikes accordingly, and enjoy coasting down hills rather than spinning out.
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10-26-21, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ofajen
That looks like a road bike power curve.
Edit: I take it back, that curve looks way low. Here is a comparison chart from Rainer Privit’s article on Sheldon Brown’s website. He includes the relevant parameters for the different bike types.
Link to full article:
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/aero/formulas.html
Otto
Edit: I take it back, that curve looks way low. Here is a comparison chart from Rainer Privit’s article on Sheldon Brown’s website. He includes the relevant parameters for the different bike types.
Link to full article:
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/aero/formulas.html
Otto
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10-26-21, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DQRider
From the website...
Notes on the calculator:
Please be aware that we've made some assumptions in order to simplify this calculation. For instance, this calculator does not take into account the body position (or size) of the rider in regard to wind resistance. In addition, other factors, such as the coefficient of friction are fixed.
This tells me that an upright rider dressed in regular street clothes or partial "Fred kit" would face an even steeper drag curve than the one illustrated. Experience has taught me that I can keep up 10-15 mph all day long, but anything faster than that is just not worth the effort. So I gear my bikes accordingly, and enjoy coasting down hills rather than spinning out.
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Notes on the calculator:
Please be aware that we've made some assumptions in order to simplify this calculation. For instance, this calculator does not take into account the body position (or size) of the rider in regard to wind resistance. In addition, other factors, such as the coefficient of friction are fixed.
This tells me that an upright rider dressed in regular street clothes or partial "Fred kit" would face an even steeper drag curve than the one illustrated. Experience has taught me that I can keep up 10-15 mph all day long, but anything faster than that is just not worth the effort. So I gear my bikes accordingly, and enjoy coasting down hills rather than spinning out.
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Otto
10-26-21, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ofajen
I don’t think anyone faces a drag curve as low as that figure. At 20 mph or about 32 kph, the Privit data show about 300 watts for a full upright, but even a racing bike needs about 180 watts.
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10-26-21, 02:40 PM
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Thanks to everyone for posting your bikes. Age 75, I just switched from a 24-pound (10.9 kg) Toughroad alloy with 38mm tires, to a carbon Defy Advanced 2, with 32mm tires, weighing 19 pounds (8.6 kg). The lighter weight increased my speed by 2.5 mph (4 kph) or more.
Here's my old gravel bike, a Toughroad SLR GX 0, alloy.
Here's my new Defy Advanced 2, carbon.
Here's my old gravel bike, a Toughroad SLR GX 0, alloy.
Here's my new Defy Advanced 2, carbon.
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10-26-21, 04:13 PM
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Let's try to stay on thread topic. Other discussions are better suited for a new thread.
Carry on. Let's see what old people ride.
Carry on. Let's see what old people ride.
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10-26-21, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by classic carl
I picked it up on September 27th. What a sweet ride. I was originally looking at the ALR, but was talked into spending another grand for the carbon frame SL. I'm glad I did. The shop owner, who sold me my Klein 20 years ago, said that although I was getting disc brakes and new components, the ALR ride quality might not be an upgrade over my aluminum frame Klein. He also said that the Klein might even be a smoother ride than the ALR. I rode the SL for about a mile and a half on a not so smooth road and I was ready to buy it. I didn't ride the ALR.
I was lucky to get it though. When I originally stopped in early September to see what they had, they told me there was a 58cm ALR comng and a SL 5 in silver in early October. I stopped in one day after a ride a week or so later and there were several boxes of bikes on the floor. There was a 52, 54, 56, and a 58cm SL 5 in blue, which is the color I preferred anyway. I asked if it was sold, the owner said no, and I told him to build it. He thought I didn't want a blue one, and the employee I originally talked to wasn't aware that the blue ones were on their way. The silver one still hasn't arrived as of yesterday.
I see you're from Jacksonville. My wife's brother lives in Orange Park on Fleming Island. I've been there a couple of times, but haven't ridden there.
I was lucky to get it though. When I originally stopped in early September to see what they had, they told me there was a 58cm ALR comng and a SL 5 in silver in early October. I stopped in one day after a ride a week or so later and there were several boxes of bikes on the floor. There was a 52, 54, 56, and a 58cm SL 5 in blue, which is the color I preferred anyway. I asked if it was sold, the owner said no, and I told him to build it. He thought I didn't want a blue one, and the employee I originally talked to wasn't aware that the blue ones were on their way. The silver one still hasn't arrived as of yesterday.
I see you're from Jacksonville. My wife's brother lives in Orange Park on Fleming Island. I've been there a couple of times, but haven't ridden there.
. Fleming Island is very nice area and I have several friends that live out there. That was all pine forest 10 to 15 years ago.
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10-27-21, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tendency
Here's my geezer ride (not TOO much of a geezer yet at age 52 
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10-27-21, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by big john
That's a nice looking frame and that stem is certainly geezer approved, but why no front derailleur?
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10-27-21, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tendency
Thank you sir! it's an '83 San Rensho built Allez - nicest steel frame I've ever owned. As for the front derailleur - I found I no longer had the need for 20 odd gears. 10 will do just fine. I've yet to find a hill around here that I can't ride in 40x23. Makes for a much simpler setup and saves a little weight too-boot!
10-30-21, 07:16 PM
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New Trek
I added this one to the stable this past week. 2022 Trek Marlin 7.
10-31-21, 06:04 PM
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Today I was out on this De Rosa Neo Pro. Took it in on trade this year and still sorting it out a bit. 25 miles today.
Not taken today, I've put on some wider, plusher tires since this was taken.
Not taken today, I've put on some wider, plusher tires since this was taken.
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11-05-21, 09:40 PM
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Started riding again last year on this Jamis Citizen 1 after hip replacements:
Jamis Citizen 1
This year I restored my old racing bike, with the frame I built 45 years ago as a senior in high school, with Colin Laing, in 1976
Fredo, restored.
Now I'm building up a bike for my brother:
Rivendell Clem Smith Jr.
I'm 63 this year.
Jamis Citizen 1
This year I restored my old racing bike, with the frame I built 45 years ago as a senior in high school, with Colin Laing, in 1976
Fredo, restored.
Now I'm building up a bike for my brother:
Rivendell Clem Smith Jr.
I'm 63 this year.
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11-05-21, 10:11 PM
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I posted a pic of the RockHopper recently, so here is my other bike. The frame is a Schwinn Sprint from the mid 80s.
The only other original component is the headset. Most of the other parts went into a build for my son, but he needed a slightly smaller frame.
This frame inherited wheels, brakes and cranks from my former road bike and got some new cockpit parts and sone other things.
Otto
The only other original component is the headset. Most of the other parts went into a build for my son, but he needed a slightly smaller frame.
This frame inherited wheels, brakes and cranks from my former road bike and got some new cockpit parts and sone other things.
Otto
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11-07-21, 10:53 AM
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Well yesterday I was out on the Schwinn 684 which did remarkably well. Last of my bikes to meet the 19 mph avg challenge.
Recently converted it from 7 speed DT to 7 Speed STI shifting
Recently converted it from 7 speed DT to 7 Speed STI shifting
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12-07-21, 03:07 PM
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Brought home my new Giant Trance 3 this past Saturday. Riding single track trails like Cacapon State Park in WV is getting a bit too rough on a hard tail for this now 51 yr old.
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12-07-21, 04:49 PM
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Here’s my old Schwinn. Two weekends ago I swapped out the road bars for these touring bars in a moustache bar configuration. Very fun!
Otto
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12-09-21, 01:26 PM
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This is my Allez sport that I bought new in 2015. I've really enjoyed it.
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12-09-21, 06:24 PM
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I don't spend a lot of time in the drops, but I still ride drop bar bikes. I am looking for an old three speed or even a mixte so when the day comes I need to be more upright or I can't throw my leg over the saddle on my roadies I can still ride.
2018 Trek Domane
1984 Raleigh Competition
1980 Takara Grand Touring
1981 Takara Deluxe 12
2018 Trek Domane
1984 Raleigh Competition
1980 Takara Grand Touring
1981 Takara Deluxe 12
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