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Originally Posted by Bikey Mikey
(Post 15588140)
Not all Americans Stapfam. I know...of course I did wait on tables at the officer's club. Of course if there's a small fork to the right of the soup spoon, that's a seafood fork.
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Have broken a steel fork on our tandem after 13,000 miles.
Currently have a carbon fork/steerer on our tandem with only 34,000+ miles on it. Single bike has c/f fork with 15,000+ miles on it. Note: it is not how OLD your bike/fork is; the mileage is a better indicator than the age. Too man bikes are 'old' but have minimal miles on them. |
Originally Posted by Road Fan
(Post 15588457)
I think of jarring as referring to shock, where buzzing refers to vibration. A fork that flexes is good at absorbing shock due to its elastic bending - like thin diameter, modern, high-strength steel (OXplat or 853/953, or even CrMo, the venerable Columbus Cyclex or 531 steel). A fork made of material that has inherent energy dissipation properties would be better for preventing vibration from reaching the rider - carbon fiber composite excels at this due to the epoxy binding the fibers together. It's not generally as good at flexing as steel is.
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I have a carbon fork on my Giant Defy Advanced and a steel fork on my Windsor Tourist. On the same patch of rough road, the Tourist is somewhat better.
BUT the Giant has 700x25 tires at 100 psi and the Windsor has 700x32s at 80 psi or less. AND I have double-wrapped handlebar tape on the Windsor. Therefore the Giant's CF fork must be doing something right to even be in the same ballpark. |
Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
(Post 15587659)
Only one fork for dessert? That seems so limiting. Do you have to reuse your dessert fork for Second Pie?
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Originally Posted by Shp4man
(Post 15588168)
Ya. But carbon fiber forks are ugly. Yes, I am the retrogrouch.
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Originally Posted by Dudelsack
(Post 15587361)
Well fine then. What are you supposed to do with the fork at the top of the plate?
Originally Posted by Bikey Mikey
(Post 15588140)
Not all Americans Stapfam. I know...of course I did wait on tables at the officer's club. Of course if there's a small fork to the right of the soup spoon, that's a seafood fork.
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I've had people make all kinds of ridiculous claims about CF components:
"Yea ... my bike used to ride really harsh when I had an aluminum seatpost. With the CF seatpost, it's really plush." Plush? With something as stiff as CF and 90% loaded in compression? Compared to the compliance of the tires, the seat, and the seat suspension? Balderdash. I had an straight gauge aluminum bike (with an aluminum fork too) and switched to a CF fork. My take on it? The difference is that when you go over a bump, the CF fork goes BONG where the Al fork would have gone BANG. That's about it. It's not like you'll get more vertical compliance out of the part ... you won't. But the vibrations don't "ring" as much. That being said, the BANG versus BONG difference isn't terribly significant for short rides. But when you're talking about long rides on crappy roads, it does add up. YMMV. |
Ok, I'm visiting with one biking veteran in the LBO and he tells me to stay away from carbon forks! I do like the idea of carbon, but does a steel fork really help with wrists and arms like he says? Man, we are living and learning! Fred one thing aero bars do is take the load off your wrists and arms , and then you lean on your forearms, instead. that is If you can bend over that far.. as the smaller frontal area of bending over is the Aero part.. top of shoulders vs chest. |
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