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Old 07-10-13, 12:12 PM
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Why make it completely disappear?

I "get" the whole thing about helmet threads. When I get tired of reading the repeat inane comments, I just move onto something else. I did wonder, however, what the 50+ folks had to say about it. Why make it completely disappear?
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Old 07-10-13, 12:19 PM
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Completely disappear........are you talking about the helmet or threads discussing helmets?
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Old 07-10-13, 12:33 PM
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I take it he meant threads about wearing a helmet...

wear one... a helmet has saved my life more than once. I would prefer to grow old with at least some sense intact... but to each his/her own...
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I'm working on anti-insect precautions for mine. I think I need to work on my fashion-sense, however...
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You'll probably find at least a few 50 plus cyclists prefer the wind in their hair but probably less than half I'm guessing. You could still click on the removed thread and it'll send you to the huge thread that it's merged with.

Most of us who were riding young still remember these.
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Not only were the helmetless and violence on the trail threads moved, they were moved to trollheim as best I can tell, which is insulting to anyone who posted on them.

As far as the violence on the trail thread, unless someone went Philistine after my last post, that thread showed no rancor I was aware of. Both sides of the issue were civil, if not very compelling.

As someone with a two year membership, I would say the moves were inappropriate, but so what? It's not like I'm being audited by the IRS or under surveillance by the NSA or something.
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Not only were the helmetless and violence on the trail threads moved, they were moved to trollheim as best I can tell, which is insulting to anyone who posted on them.

As far as the violence on the trail thread, unless someone went Philistine after my last post, that thread showed no rancor I was aware of. Both sides of the issue were civil, if not very compelling.

As someone with a two year membership, I would say the moves were inappropriate, but so what? It's not like I'm being audited by the IRS or under surveillance by the NSA or something.
It has more to do with a select few posters with very set opinions who troll from helmet thread to helmet thread arguing with and berating anyone who disagrees with their viewpoint, and point in fact all helmet threads are merged into a giant one over in A&S.
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There are just some threads that you know where they are going even before the first response. People are so polarized that a civil discussion can't be had. Helmet - no helmet: republican - democrat; show a video or an accident and in the first couple of responses, the victim is blamed. People are so cowardly that they need to hide behind the internet.
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You'll probably find at least a few 50 plus cyclists prefer the wind in their hair but probably less than half I'm guessing. You could still click on the removed thread and it'll send you to the huge thread that it's merged with.

Most of us who were riding young still remember these.
I did click the removed thread and found a huge one. I only checked the last page but I didn't see anything that looked like us.

Oh - and I am one of the 50+ cyclists who like to feel the wind in my hair. That's why I don't shave my legs.
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It has more to do with a select few posters with very set opinions who troll from helmet thread to helmet thread arguing with and berating anyone who disagrees with their viewpoint, and point in fact all helmet threads are merged into a giant one over in A&S.
Good enough. But why argue about helmets all the damn time when we could be arguing over who is going to win the Batchelorette this season?
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I think I'll just pass on both, thanks though
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Originally Posted by Dudelsack View Post
Good enough. But why argue about helmets all the damn time when we could be arguing over who is going to win the Batchelorette this season?
Both of my daughters watch that show. Then they discuss it with my mother-in-law. I don't understand the appeal, as it's heavily produced and edited. I'd rather watch the middle hour of any TDF stage.
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Originally Posted by Zinger View Post

Most of us who were riding young still remember these.
I still have one of those! The leather is getting kinda ratty, however. They were pretty cool, but probably didn't offer much protection in event of a head bump.
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Oh - and I am one of the 50+ cyclists who like to feel the wind in my hair. That's why I don't shave my legs.
I don't care about the helmet thread - wear one or not it's up to you.

What I do what to know is have other 50+'ers lost their leg hair? You'd think I shaved mine from looking at them (I don't). Not sure if it's an age thing or the hair just rubbed off from riding every day in the winter wearing cycling tights...
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What I do what to know is have other 50+'ers lost their leg hair? You'd think I shaved mine from looking at them (I don't). Not sure if it's an age thing or the hair just rubbed off from riding every day in the winter wearing cycling tights...
It's still there, but getting kind of thin.
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I still have one of those! The leather is getting kinda ratty, however. They were pretty cool, but probably didn't offer much protection in event of a head bump.

Didn't save Alan McCormack from a concussion (starting at about 1:30) but he still likes the wind in his hair w/o it (at about 3:00) lol.
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Lets start a helmet\no helmet-leg shaving\hairy-underwear\comando-tall socks\short socks\no socks-DF\bent-clipless\toe clip-CHAIN LUBE thead and wait for the mods heads to explode.
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I can understand the beaten on rail trail being moved--but only just. The helmet one though--

So I had better not post about Clipless pedals- Compact versus Standard cranks- Which chain oil to use or quite a multitude of other items as They have all been covered in other forums and they will be moved to that one. And don't make a comment about the TDF as there is a specific forum for that aswell.

I am not saying to the Moderators-"Hand Off our Forum" but use your loaf occasionally and don't react to the spoilers that are about.
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It has more to do with a select few posters with very set opinions who troll from helmet thread to helmet thread arguing with and berating anyone who disagrees with their viewpoint, and point in fact all helmet threads are merged into a giant one over in A&S.
I've noticed this with some "take the lane" comments. One side says never do it, and insists that anyone who disagrees advocates doing it always, even on 50mph plus roads, or they promote the opposite extreme.

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Good enough. But why argue about helmets all the damn time when we could be arguing over who is going to win the Batchelorette this season?
Meh. I'm too busy keeping up with he Kardashians. (Actually my wife an her daughter really watch that )

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Originally Posted by Zinger View Post
You'll probably find at least a few 50 plus cyclists prefer the wind in their hair but probably less than half I'm guessing. You could still click on the removed thread and it'll send you to the huge thread that it's merged with.

Most of us who were riding young still remember these.
The Bell V1 Pro was a nice helmet. It was a "real" helmet, yet looked like the "leather hairnet"

http://www.google.com/search?q=bell+...w=1272&bih=819
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I'm on the side of the mods on this one.

The efficacy or otherwise of helmets is a hugely controversial subject and the answer, contrary to the fixed opinions of many here, is a long way from being obvious. Much of the evidence is contradictory and many of the oft-quoted "studies" are deeply flawed. So it is unsurprising that those who have bothered to investigate the subject - whichever side of the argument they are on - get irritated when they are told they are stupid by people who have nothing but prejudice and assumption to justify their strong opinions. History shows that this is always how it goes, and having a single thread in A&S to prosecute the debate is a perfectly reasonable solution, which works.

As for the beaten on a rail trail thread, it was an argument about gun control. That's clearly a P&R issue.

It is actually possible for us old folks to move between forums, you know. We aren't so sensecent that we'd get lost in cyberspace if we dared to venture beyond 50+ to discuss issues that are quite clearly not age-related.
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Originally Posted by chasm54 View Post
I'm on the side of the mods on this one.

The efficacy or otherwise of helmets is a hugely controversial subject and the answer, contrary to the fixed opinions of many here, is a long way from being obvious. Much of the evidence is contradictory and many of the oft-quoted "studies" are deeply flawed. So it is unsurprising that those who have bothered to investigate the subject - whichever side of the argument they are on - get irritated when they are told they are stupid by people who have nothing but prejudice and assumption to justify their strong opinions. History shows that this is always how it goes, and having a single thread in A&S to prosecute the debate is a perfectly reasonable solution, which works.

As for the beaten on a rail trail thread, it was an argument about gun control. That's clearly a P&R issue.

It is actually possible for us old folks to move between forums, you know. We aren't so sensecent that we'd get lost in cyberspace if we dared to venture beyond 50+ to discuss issues that are quite clearly not age-related.
I would like to note, Chasm qualifies as one of the posters I spoke of.
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[QUOTE=stapfam;15835944]....So I had better not post about Clipless pedals- Compact versus Standard cranks- Which chain oil to use or quite a multitude of other items as They have all been covered in other forums and they will be moved to that one. And don't make a comment about the TDF as there is a specific forum for that aswell.

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I would like to note, Chasm qualifies as one of the posters I spoke of.
Rearrange the following words into a well-known saying:

duck's off back a water.

Speaking of trolling, you seem conspicuously eager to start a fight. I suggest you calm down.
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Rearrange the following words into a well-known saying:

duck's off back a water.

Speaking of trolling, you seem conspicuously eager to start a fight. I suggest you calm down.
Meh, I'm not eager for a fight. You're just one of the causes of why we can't discuss helmets in threads outside of the helmet thread... and I felt like pointing it out. Now if you mistake that as spoiling for a fight, I suggest we do not discourse as you will probably take almost everything I have to say out of context.
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