Originally Posted by rdtompki (Post 15953533)

I've got my hands on an ISM Adamo Podium to try. It might be a bit firm (OTOH, I'm 200 lbs!), but it will be a good test of the shape. I suppose I have a small concern about chaffing since my legs are fairly large.

Originally Posted by TromboneAl (Post 15951679)

I did another 61 mile ride yesterday, and I've concluded that this saddle is not going to work for me. Although I could probably get it to be comfortable, it is still putting pressure on the prostate such that at night, I pee slower.

Here's my thinking on what's going on:

This is a pelvis:

http://i.imgur.com/U8QvTKB.jpg

The arrows point to what are usually called the sit-bones. The widest parts, called the ischial tuberosities are where my butt meets the saddle. The narrower forward parts, called the pubic rami, would meet the saddle if I were leaning a lot further forward.

While riding (again when no one is looking), I can put my finger under my butt and palpate the sit-bone [something one normally pays extra for ;) ]. I can feel exactly where the pressure is.

I can also measure the width of my sit-bones, and it comes out to about 120 mm.

Based on that 120 mm width, this is where my sit-bones sit on my old and new saddles:

http://i.imgur.com/Q37kvvu.jpg

I can confirm that by palpating with my finger. I am sometimes even further forward on the Adamo, like this:

http://i.imgur.com/1XdlJAb.jpg

My conclusion is that because my sit-bones are hanging over the side of the Adamo, it is exerting pressure on the perineum. On my old saddle, when I'm on the black pads, and the saddle is tilted forward, there's no pressure one the perineum. That's why I may be less comfortable, but don't have any prostate symptoms at night.

I'm open to other viewpoints on this.

My plan is to do some rides on the old saddle, and compare the effects the night after a ride -- make sure I'm not misremembering.

Originally Posted by BikeWNC (Post 15961038)

Maybe you need a wider saddle. The pictures show a saddle tilted down, which is usually not the way to reduce soft tissue pressure. Sure it works for a while but eventually you end up rotating your pelvis even more forward and grind your bits. Try a wider saddle with a more level tilt. You might need to adjust the distance and height to the bars but saddle position always comes first. YMMV.

Originally Posted by TromboneAl (Post 15961653)

Maybe. Yesterday I did 61 miles on the old saddle, and could feel that my sit bones were right at the red spots in the above photos. Things were better at night. Perhaps I'm expecting too much.

It sure would be nice to have a saddle for which you could adjust the width, like this:

http://i.imgur.com/Id95hk1.jpg

I'm going to do some positioning experiments and put on some HTFU cream for now.

Originally Posted by TromboneAl (Post 15961653)

Perhaps I'm expecting too much.

Originally Posted by on the path (Post 15962833)

Quite possible. That's a question I can't answer.

Since you still may be searching, may I suggest this one, Nashbar brand:
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=334792

May not be for you, but the price is right, probably worth a try. I got mine towards the end of last year. About 2500 miles later, and I'm still a happy camper. I've been riding 150-200 miles per week, and more, and no major issues.

I find that forcing myself to get up off the saddle every couple of miles goes a long way to keeping my butt happy.

Originally Posted by OldTryGuy (Post 15966562)

Just installed a new FR1 and like the old, working nicely. Was thinking about Adamo but just uncertain of how it would be when I'm in aero-bar position riding on the tip of the seat.

Originally Posted by John_V (Post 15968182)

For me, riding the aerobar position with my Prologue is when I'm most comfortable. There are times when I don't really feel the saddle, although I know that I'm sitting on something. The thing is that you really aren't riding on the tip of the saddle. Your sit bones stay in the same exact position as when you ride the hoods. I think the design of the saddle makes it difficult for a lot of riders to visualize just where you are planting your sit bones and how the saddle works. It's the reason I held out from getting one for so long.

Originally Posted by vhj (Post 15968410)

Are you saying your sit-bones never slide forward, OR are you saying you are moving forward and your sit-bones are on the two front "prongs" of the saddle?

Originally Posted by John_V (Post 15968182)

For me, riding the aerobar position with my Prologue is when I'm most comfortable. There are times when I don't really feel the saddle, although I know that I'm sitting on something. The thing is that you really aren't riding on the tip of the saddle. Your sit bones stay in the same exact position as when you ride the hoods. I think the design of the saddle makes it difficult for a lot of riders to visualize just where you are planting your sit bones and how the saddle works. It's the reason I held out from getting one for so long.

Originally Posted by [FONT=Tahoma

vhj][/FONT]Are you saying your sit-bones never slide forward, OR are you saying you are moving forward and your sit-bones are on the two front "prongs" of the saddle?

Originally Posted by OldTryGuy

At times I shift way forward to the point of the saddle. No sit-bones making contact with seat. How can I do this on an Adamo if there is no nose and the seat is set far back????

Originally Posted by rdtompki (Post 16052873)

Update: I've returned the Adamo Podium, but have not given up on Adamos. With the Podium my sitbones got sore and were not getting any better; I had jumped from the frying pan into the fire as it were. I've concluded that either a) the podium doesn't have quite enough padding or b) the podium isn't wide enough (most likely). I've bought an Adamo Century which should provide good mid-line pressure relief and is definitely both wider and"softer". I should have the saddle on Friday; in the meantime I'm riding an SMP Avant that my wife had used on the tandem. I could do a 100K on the Avant, but it doesn't resolve the mid-line pressure to the extent of the Adamo saddles. We shall see.

Originally Posted by John_V (Post 15973892)

......What is making contact with the saddle? Are you sitting on your perineal area? I'm not sure I fully understand your question or know how to answer it correctly. I might suggest that you go to ISM's web site and watch their videos and maybe they will answer your question.