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Old 11-28-13, 02:12 PM
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Rode another bike

I unfortunately test rode a Specialized Ruby compact. They have discounted it down to 1459 because it did not sell in the spring and summer and it has a rather significant nick on the top tube. The ride was unfortunate because I am now obsessed with the bike. I have not ridden all carbon before and have 4 very heavy bikes so this was unreal. My question is about the nick, how much less could I offer for it? The nick is the bike shops fault and the rather ridiculous way they store their bikes on the wall. The nick will not of course affect the ride but it is an absolutely gorgeous bike and aesthetically this does detract from it. The shop owner was reluctant t drop the price but he wants to sell the bike.

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Old 11-28-13, 02:29 PM
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Don't have a clue about bikes, but here's my deep discount story from yesterday.
Car dealerships are offering factory incentives on 2013's right now. Dealer A, who had a truck my son didn't want was offering $3,000 off if we paid cash. Dealer B, with a nicer truck was offering $2000 off. When dealer B asked "What do we have to do to close the deal now?" I told him about truck A and asked for another $1000 off which I didn't expect to get. Dealer B gave us another $500.

Dealer B got the sale, and I left with a warm fuzzy feeling in the wallet.
So... It doesn't hurt to ask.
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Old 11-28-13, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cyanemi View Post
it has a rather significant nick on the top tube. ..........................The nick will not of course affect the ride but it is an absolutely gorgeous bike and aesthetically this does detract from it.
A "significant nick" in the top tube of a carbon frame could be a problem. You are correct about it not affecting the ride, that is unless it fails. It depends if the nick is only cosmetic or is it actually structural.
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Old 11-28-13, 04:36 PM
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If it's New , and you are buying it from a bike shop, and are the original owner ,
if you do have trouble down the road the warrantee should cover a replacement frame..
make sure they dont make you give that away to get the price.

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Old 11-28-13, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cyanemi View Post
I unfortunately test rode a Specialized Ruby compact. They have discounted it down to 1459 because it did not sell in the spring and summer and it has a rather significant nick on the top tube.
A "rather significant nick on the top tube" of a carbon bike? What could go wrong?

Oh, wait...
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Old 11-28-13, 08:41 PM
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It is cosmetic
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Old 11-28-13, 09:19 PM
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Was the regular price set at 1750? If so that is MSRP and represents a 40% margin for top level dealers. Dealer cost, depending upon dealer participation level and relationship with Specialized (Concept store or not) is about 1050. How much is the bike worth to you? Buy at the price that you are comfortable paying, but do leave some meat on the bone for the dealer.
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Old 11-28-13, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TiHabanero View Post
Was the regular price set at 1750? If so that is MSRP and represents a 40% margin for top level dealers. Dealer cost, depending upon dealer participation level and relationship with Specialized (Concept store or not) is about 1050. How much is the bike worth to you? Buy at the price that you are comfortable paying, but do leave some meat on the bone for the dealer.
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Old 11-29-13, 12:01 AM
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Regular price was 1850. I was going to offer 1250 and maybe buy some other things like a computer and a new pump.
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Old 11-29-13, 07:51 AM
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Can you post a picture of the nick?

The key is to make sure you get the full warrantee.
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Old 11-29-13, 09:28 AM
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My one thing to contribute is make sure the LBS you buy from is one you can work with in the future. Even with on-line shopping and doing your own maintenance and repairs having a dealer and person you trust and, are comfortable dealing with, can make your bicycling much more enjoyable. If you know the Specialized dealer already then you are god to go if you are satisfied with their service and how they do business. As far as fitting is concerned the Specialized BG fitting is very good. My LBS is also Specialized dealer and they have a BG trained person on staff, they used his training to fit me for my shoes recently and their staff is first rate in all aspects, thankfully.

Best of luck on your purchase, the Ruby is a fantastic bike, I'd like for my wife to consider one eventually.

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Old 11-29-13, 10:11 AM
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Absolutely document the "chip" and have the dealer sign said documentation. If ever there is a problem with the frame in any way, you need to be covered. Due diligence.
1250 would be a fair price to pay for a "second". Dealer gets rid of it and has some meat left to chew on, you get a really nice bike at a great price, and both of you are happy with it. In the past I made many, many deals like this.
As for accessories, your dealer will appreciate purchases from him to help with the lost margin on the bike. As I see it, that would be the right thing to do.
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Old 11-30-13, 02:46 AM
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I just bought that same model bike last week and I am very happy with it, my first new bike in 26 years and the difference in the ride and shifting is amazing.
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Old 11-30-13, 07:20 AM
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$1000.00 , if you are sure its ok. They will never be able to do better than that.
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Old 12-03-13, 07:16 AM
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I am pretty sure this will be a great dealer. Thanks for the info on documenting the chip that is a good idea. I have not been back to take a picture. I have the money for it and do not want to appear too eager and I am in Michigan so probably can't ride it for months. I may wait a week or two and hope it is still available.
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