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Old 05-06-14, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by maddmaxx
That's a pretty dim view. Isn't it possible that many of us obtain useful information here along with interesting discourse?
This site and the others owned by the company are businesses. That business allows us to do what we do either for free, or for a nominal contribution. This is no different from other free sites like Facebook. The owners are quite literally selling our participation. Has very little to do with how interesting the conversations are, as long as they happen.
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Originally Posted by sknhgy
What's the best sidearm and holster for a 50+ rider?
One "sees what you did there".
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Originally Posted by badger1
One "sees what you did there".
Are 50+ Canadians allowed to carry concealed? Is there a lot of province to province variation?
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Originally Posted by Dudelsack
Are 50+ Canadians allowed to carry concealed? Is there a lot of province to province variation?
Heh heh!
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Originally Posted by badger1
Heh heh!
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Wait, what? Are you suggesting, for a moment, that there are topics that just are not appropriate for the 50+ thread, even if it directly concerns 50+ers?

Perish the thought!!!!!
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I ride with several Vegas Metro officers. They are all Glock fans. The 19 seems to be a popular option to carry in the middle pocket of their cycling jerseys.

I do think that 50+ riders are a unique group who need very little moderation. At our age we don't appreciate a lot of managing. And I am a moderator, well, they trust me with a star anyway.
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Originally Posted by skidder
Where else but the 50+ subforum would someone go when the want to discuss carburetors and vinyl LPs without giving a long explanation of what both those items are?
Or to wax poetic about "Pie" or the good old days of "Diego"?
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Originally Posted by Dudelsack
What kind of ammunition does that take? The dog thread on the roadie forum spooked me. I'd like to explore the possibility of concealed carry on my bike.
Are you from Kentucky er sumptin' !?!?!?
I said "Alpha dog". You dont need ammo for dogs if you're the "alpha"
Sheeeesh . . .

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Originally Posted by Biker395
One might as well ask:

To blow up basketballs!
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Originally Posted by -=(8)=-
Are you from Kentucky er sumptin' !?!?!?
I said "Alpha dog". You dont need ammo for dogs if you're the "alpha"
Sheeeesh . . .

I ain't alpha, although the Androgel had made me a lot meaner.

I'm not one to advocate violence, but I want a *** to cap one of those ****** ******* if I need to.
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32 Keltec fits in a jersey pocket.
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Originally Posted by Dudelsack
I ain't alpha, although the Androgel had made me a lot meaner.

I'm not one to advocate violence, but I want a *** to cap one of those ****** ******* if I need to.
An old shampoo bottle filled with the juice left over from a can of Goya hotpeppers is a seriously ferocious weapon with a decent aiming technique.
I'd like to ignore the dogs and move on to the humans who let the dogs run loose and defecate all over the yards and sidewalks up here in the Highlands
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And a classic demonstration of why threads get moved and 50+ aren't immune to moderator intervention. Good one guys.
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Old 05-06-14, 05:04 PM
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I can't imagine myself reporting someone else's thread.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but I can't allow this to slip by uncontested. I'll have you know that the moderation team relies heavily on members reporting problem threads. Some threads get out of hand. Some members get out of hand. The moderation team can't be everywhere at the same time. We have a very limited staff that tries to keep track of a very large group of forums and scores, maybe hundreds of active threads. There is no way on earth we could cover all these threads without the help of the members.

This is an unpaid, volunteer position. We have personal lives outside this forum - jobs, families to raise, bills to pay, social activities, even an occasional bike ride. Speaking for most of us, we don't do this because we like bossing people around. And speaking for myself, I do this as my contribution to trying to keep this enjoyable and valuable forum an enjoyable and valuable forum. I just like to help keep it on track. So I hope you're not trying to discourage reporting, because that is absolutely essential in keeping this forum on track. We don't ask everyone to give up their time to help moderate this place. But we are extremely grateful when regular members help out by reporting stuff. And it may be too rigid an axiom to apply everywhere, but the general idea holds true - if you're not part of the solution, maybe you are part of the problem.

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Old 05-06-14, 05:30 PM
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just to amplify what Billy said, I'm here because I like the forum. They asked me to moderate and I try to do the best I can, but I'm here because I like to participate on the forum. I always liked the 50+ forum, but I can only spend so much time online. A majority of the mods are 50+

The threads that get moved are mainly in 4 categories that always cause problems. Roughly speaking, firearms, politics, helmets and Advocacy and Safety. These are highly contentious subjects, and moving them to the appropriate forum is a given.
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Originally Posted by Rowan
And a classic demonstration of why threads get moved and 50+ aren't immune to moderator intervention. Good one guys.
The topic of firearms was deliberately introduced to get a reaction from the moderators; it has nothing to do with the topic of the thread.
The fact that the OP is one of the people helping to derail his own thread by continuing the firearm talk pretty much shows why moderation in 50+ isn't going away.
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I know I'm fairly new here, but here it goes.

Every forum I've been a member has had this same topic come up...Repeatedly. They're private forums, and the owners can do as they see fit. Whenever I see a thread moved, I shrug my shoulders, wonder why, and move on. If it gets too heavy handed I move on.

As far as the moderators go, like BillyD said, they're volunteers, and believe me it's a thankless task. I've spent some time moderating a political forum, and I learned from that nobody is ever going to be happy all the time.

That stint made my 5 yrs of coaching teenage girls soccer look like a cake walk.

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Moderators: thank you. Thank you very much.

so it's not a thankless job after all...
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Originally Posted by CbadRider
The topic of firearms was deliberately introduced to get a reaction from the moderators; it has nothing to do with the topic of the thread.
The fact that the OP is one of the people helping to derail his own thread by continuing the firearm talk pretty much shows why moderation in 50+ isn't going away.
My thread and perspective has nothing to do with why/if moderation is needed. It's about what gets moved and why. All I'm advocating for is some moderation in the moderation (huh?). If, as some have suggested, the A&S forum is a bit of a snake pit why force us into it? And, BTW, why not apply some moderation to those that are disrespectful? I have never felt personally attacked in 50+ but 5 minutes in A&S and "game on." Why has that gone on long enough for it to become a given? At this point I'm not really interested in following any thread into any of the snake pits. And, that's too bad because what is lost is an adult, mature conversation about those issues.

Now I'm off to a Ducati rally in NC. Ride well. Be safe.
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The first thing Hitler did after he took everyone's guns away was to not allow anyone to post in the 50+ forum! Look how that turned out! Now we can't talk about *****exual abortion 'cause some petty out of control moderator tyrant says it's "off-topic". I bet his birth certificate is faked too! Wake up sheeple! This is the first step toward socialist islamofacist anarcho-syndicalist communism!

Oh, and I want a refund.
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The sad thing is that a lot of the people here are forgetting the 50+ forum description


Fifty Plus (50+)


Share the victories, challenges, successes and special concerns of bicyclists 50 and older. Especially useful for those entering or reentering bicycling.


We understand that there are other issues that may pertain only to those who are in this age bracket and we all due respect we try to keep it here - that is why we don't really mind when those issues come up. But when it's a topic that tends to spiral into debates, arguments or turns into an internet bloodfest, that is when it gets cleaned up or moved to where it might be in the right atmosphere. We have had many m many complaints that it is sometimes hard to find threads pertaining to 50+ CYCLING on here. We have been questioned the same exact thing: "Why does 50+ cycling exist if there is no cycling content?" One of our members here has often fought us in regards to our actions of moving things. This person felt that we should never move anything out of here. We tried that. We did that for what... two years? And then that's when we started to lose members. They were frustrated. They asked us why we allowed this. They asked where the cycling content was. They didn't want to hear about people's personal issues in regards to not getting along with neighbors...with what kind of pies their wife made...

I had even asked if we should just change the name of this place to not include cycling. Boy did I get a lot of PMs asking me not to.

It's tough. I'd like to please everyone here, but I can't. We are up in arms here. I'm getting it from both sides.
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Originally Posted by Cyclosaurus
The first thing Hitler did after he took everyone's guns away was to not allow anyone to post in the 50+ forum! Look how that turned out! Now we can't talk about *****exual abortion 'cause some petty out of control moderator tyrant says it's "off-topic". I bet his birth certificate is faked too! Wake up sheeple! This is the first step toward socialist islamofacist anarcho-syndicalist communism!

Oh, and I want a refund.
I'd say that pretty much covers all the bases.
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Originally Posted by HawkOwl
This site and the others owned by the company are businesses. That business allows us to do what we do either for free, or for a nominal contribution. This is no different from other free sites like Facebook. The owners are quite literally selling our participation. Has very little to do with how interesting the conversations are, as long as they happen.
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