Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Fifty Plus (50+)
Reload this Page >

No-Preparation Century?

Search
Notices
Fifty Plus (50+) Share the victories, challenges, successes and special concerns of bicyclists 50 and older. Especially useful for those entering or reentering bicycling.

No-Preparation Century?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-01-14, 11:08 PM
  #1  
jyl
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
jyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 7,639

Bikes: 61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 86 P'geot PX 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997

Mentioned: 146 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 49 Times in 31 Posts
No-Preparation Century?

Hmm, I just realized the Portland Wheelmen's Pioneer Century ride is in a week, on June 7. I signed up some months ago, but a commitment was going to prevent me from riding it. Now that commitment has gone away so I have no reason not to get my $42 worth of riding.

The minor issue is, I've done zero preparation.

Okay, I ride to work and back every day - a whopping 4 miles each way. I've been doing weekend rides, uh, more like every other weekend rides, usually 40-ish miles. I've ridden centuries before, four of them. And this particular route is, I'm told, largely flat. I'm definitely behind on mileage, compared to where I normally am by the start of summer (but ahead, in terms of fatness - I'm at mid-winter weight, sadly), but I've recovered from my almost two months off the bike this winter.

So . . . some people say that a fit cyclist can up and ride a century pretty much any time he or she likes. Not enjoy it, perhaps, but ride it.

What do you think? I'm not worried. Should I be?
jyl is offline  
Old 06-01-14, 11:10 PM
  #2  
Trek 500 Kid
 
Zinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 2,562

Bikes: '83 Trek 970 road --- '86 Trek 500 road

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2904 Post(s)
Liked 382 Times in 307 Posts
Go for it. Start slow. Stop lots.
Zinger is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 03:06 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
digibud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Further North than U
Posts: 2,000

Bikes: Spec Roubaix, three Fisher Montare, two Pugs

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 39 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
For me going from 40 to 100 would be a fair challenge, more due to my butt being broken in than anything. If you're good in that regard or willing to put up with the pain, I'd say most folks that can do 40 can do 100. The key, IMHO, is to: 1) ride comfortably slowly as compared to a faster training ride. 2) Remain hydrated and snack along the way. 3) Keep in a very comfortable, easy spinning gear.
If it's mostly flat, go for it. I would also strongly suggest you don't ride -at all- the day before. Perhaps for two days before to allow your legs to fully recover from any other training. I'd certainly try to get one rather long ride in beforehand...as long a ride as you can pull off.. . Good luck. BTW...I just did a 102mi hilly ride a few days ago but I'll admit to having 2,000 mi this year under my belt. It's not much for some, but it's a pretty good number for me.
digibud is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 04:18 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Oahu, HI
Posts: 1,396

Bikes: 89 Paramount OS 84 Fuji Touring Series III New! 2013 Focus Izalco Ergoride

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 285 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 74 Times in 54 Posts
I dunno. My personal experience is that with no work at all, 40 is doable. Beyond that it gets hard quickly. For me without doing at least 30 regularly, 100 is a pretty big challenge.

scott s.
.
scott967 is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 04:28 AM
  #5  
Have bike, will travel
 
Barrettscv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Lake Geneva, WI
Posts: 12,284

Bikes: Ridley Helium SLX, Canyon Endurance SL, De Rosa Professional, Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra, Schwinn Paramount (1 painted, 1 chrome), Peugeot PX10, Serotta Nova X, Simoncini Cyclocross Special, Raleigh Roker, Pedal Force CG2 and CX2

Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 910 Post(s)
Liked 288 Times in 158 Posts
Were any of those four centuries in the last year? Are you highly active or more sedentary?

A flat century only requires a moderate amount of fitness. However, the random occasional cyclist might be moderately fit, or not.
__________________
When I ride my bike I feel free and happy and strong. I'm liberated from the usual nonsense of day to day life. Solid, dependable, silent, my bike is my horse, my fighter jet, my island, my friend. Together we will conquer that hill and thereafter the world.

Last edited by Barrettscv; 06-02-14 at 04:50 AM.
Barrettscv is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 04:31 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
OldsCOOL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: northern michigan
Posts: 13,317

Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Liked 595 Times in 313 Posts
Go for it, we will cheer you on.

On the plus side is your bike fit and general physical familiarity with riding. Add to that, this isnt your first rodeo. On the minus side, 100mi is still 100mi no matter the terrain. Heat conditioning might be the factor.
OldsCOOL is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 05:06 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Dudelsack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: South Hutchinson Island
Posts: 6,647

Bikes: Lectric Xpedition.

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 146 Post(s)
Liked 96 Times in 46 Posts
I say go for it, but I'm a maroon and you'd be better off not listening to me.

The heat conditioning is a good point. That might be the toughest issue.
__________________
Momento mori, amor fati.




Dudelsack is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 08:58 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 349
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The ride looks flat, has lots of bail out points, and combines two shorter loops, what's the hesitation?
dalameda is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 10:41 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Jim from Boston's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 7,384
Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 800 Post(s)
Liked 218 Times in 171 Posts
When I was in my 20's, without much preparation, I rode 200 miles in 24 hours on a totally flat 5 mile circuit on an upright Schwinn Suburban five-speed. (The Wolverine Sports Club Double Century held annually on Belle Isle on the Detroit River.
Jim from Boston is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 12:46 PM
  #10  
jyl
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
jyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 7,639

Bikes: 61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 86 P'geot PX 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997

Mentioned: 146 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 49 Times in 31 Posts
Two prior centuries last July (I'm counting 2-day STP as two centuries), the prior two were July 2012.

I ride my bike as noted, otherwise am sadly sedentary.

Heat - hmm, in Oregon we don't usually worry about heat, but it is summer, so I'm told, so maybe I will add a second bottle cage.
jyl is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 01:02 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Allen, TX
Posts: 1,916

Bikes: Look 585

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 25 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Zinger
Go for it. Start slow. Stop lots.
I agree. Pace yourself. Stop at all rest stops, but don't stop for more than 5 or so minutes. With no preparation, with the distances you have been riding, 50 - 60 miles may be your limit. But, if you only do 60 miles and SAG the remainder, it's still a personal best for you.
bikepro is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 01:07 PM
  #12  
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 43,598

Bikes: 8

Mentioned: 197 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7607 Post(s)
Liked 1,355 Times in 862 Posts
Start Early , get in 60+ miles before Lunch.. then you only have 40 remaining ..

wheel suck the tandems, for a tow.


You are already on the bike daily as it is , just putting in more time in the saddle .. on that 1 day.

Last edited by fietsbob; 06-02-14 at 01:11 PM.
fietsbob is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 01:09 PM
  #13  
working on my sandal tan
 
ThermionicScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: CID
Posts: 22,629

Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)

Mentioned: 98 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3871 Post(s)
Liked 2,568 Times in 1,579 Posts
It's just 25 four-mile rides. You can do it.
__________________
Originally Posted by chandltp
There's no such thing as too far.. just lack of time
Originally Posted by noglider
People in this forum are not typical.
RUSA #7498
ThermionicScott is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 02:18 PM
  #14  
Trek 500 Kid
 
Zinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 2,562

Bikes: '83 Trek 970 road --- '86 Trek 500 road

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2904 Post(s)
Liked 382 Times in 307 Posts
Originally Posted by jyl
Two prior centuries last July (I'm counting 2-day STP as two centuries), the prior two were July 2012.

I ride my bike as noted, otherwise am sadly sedentary.

Heat - hmm, in Oregon we don't usually worry about heat, but it is summer, so I'm told, so maybe I will add a second bottle cage.
Yeah don't run out of water for sure. Stop anywhere you can and fill back up even if only half empty because you never know how well these are supported along the way.
Zinger is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 08:27 PM
  #15  
Broom Wagon Fodder
 
reverborama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,384

Bikes: Fuji Supreme; Kona Wo; Nashbar road frame custom build; Schwinn Varsity; Nishiki International; Schwinn Premis, Falcon Merckx, American Flyer muscle bike, Motobecane Mulekick

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 52 Post(s)
Liked 64 Times in 30 Posts
Hmmm... If I had to ride a century tomorrow.... Drink Drink Drink and eat eat eat. When I commute (26 miles each way) I have to chant to myself "don't chase, don't pass" over and over. It's no good to get to work sweating. You need that attitude for this ride. Whatever gear you would normally ride in for any particular section, go one lower. I also find that if I spend too much time at a rest stop, the first mile out of it hurts.
reverborama is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 08:46 PM
  #16  
Let's do a Century
 
jppe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 8,316

Bikes: Cervelo R3 Disc, Pinarello Prince/Campy SR; Cervelo R3/Sram Red; Trek 5900/Duraace, Lynskey GR260 Ultegra

Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 651 Post(s)
Liked 879 Times in 408 Posts
You won't really know until you try. I'm betting you can do it if you just take your sweet time-especially given you don't have the humidity to mess you up. When you finish it you will have an accomplishment of a lifetime!
__________________
Ride your Ride!!
jppe is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 09:58 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Terex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 7600' Northern New Mexico
Posts: 3,680

Bikes: Specialized 6Fattie, Parlee Z5, Scott Addict

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
Liked 34 Times in 24 Posts
I'm pretty sure you're gonna die - or at least wish you did. I did 100 in my 20's with no preparation, but it was brutal. Draft, draft, draft. And I'm talking about terms of your will.
Terex is offline  
Old 06-02-14, 10:54 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posts: 4,811
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1591 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,018 Times in 571 Posts
I think you can do it. I think I could do it, although I'm probably delusional. But I'm not very good and I can do a metric with no prep. If you've ridden centuries before, you can do it. Just pace yourself.
jon c. is offline  
Old 06-03-14, 12:49 AM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Eugene, Oregon
Posts: 7,048
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 509 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 9 Times in 8 Posts
I just got back from a ride down the coast. Prior to this tour, my wife and I had been too busy for any training rides over forty miles and neither of us rode more than once a week, other than in-town errands, over the prior month. Add in the fact that she was injured for a month and a half (mid-January to the end of February), and we wondered what kind of daily mileage we would put in on a loaded tandem. We rode eight days. Seven of them were over 85 miles with the last three being 100, 90 and 140 miles. Riding centuries is like riding a bike. Once you learn how, you don't forget.

I do disagree with the folks who are advising a slow start. I recommend going out as fast as you can ride, but keep the cadence high. Much of your challenge will be psychological; get the miles in while you are fresh and strong. It's the saddle time that will get to you, not the miles.
B. Carfree is offline  
Old 06-03-14, 01:15 AM
  #20  
Trek 500 Kid
 
Zinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 2,562

Bikes: '83 Trek 970 road --- '86 Trek 500 road

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2904 Post(s)
Liked 382 Times in 307 Posts
^^^
You can keep cadence in your warmup gear if you want. I'm just saying cook yourself early hot dogging though and the sags are going to be hovering the last stretch while you're struggling. He'll find a comfortable middle.
Zinger is offline  
Old 06-03-14, 02:14 AM
  #21  
Beicwyr Hapus
 
Gerryattrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Caerdydd
Posts: 1,527

Bikes: Genesis Equilibrium, Genesis Datum, Whyte 901 Dawes 701,1973 Harry Hall

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 152 Post(s)
Liked 36 Times in 16 Posts
If your butt can do it the rest of you can.
Gerryattrick is offline  
Old 06-03-14, 02:43 AM
  #22  
Trek 500 Kid
 
Zinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 2,562

Bikes: '83 Trek 970 road --- '86 Trek 500 road

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2904 Post(s)
Liked 382 Times in 307 Posts
Originally Posted by Gerryattrick
If your butt can do it the rest of you can.
Well you might have a point since I've never done a century on 40 mile preparations. But I'm also betting most sag fares probably come from exhaustion not numb butts.
Zinger is offline  
Old 06-03-14, 03:05 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Eugene, Oregon
Posts: 7,048
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 509 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 9 Times in 8 Posts
Originally Posted by Zinger
Well you might have a point since I've never done a century on 40 mile preparations. But I'm also betting most sag fares probably come from exhaustion not numb butts.
The two can be related. As a rider fatigues, there is a tendency to put less load on the pedals and thus more on the saddle. Eventually, that load leads to hot spots, especially when the rider hasn't been riding much. Sometimes, the rest stops just can't come frequently enough to relieve this.
B. Carfree is offline  
Old 06-03-14, 03:17 PM
  #24  
Trek 500 Kid
 
Zinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 2,562

Bikes: '83 Trek 970 road --- '86 Trek 500 road

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2904 Post(s)
Liked 382 Times in 307 Posts
Originally Posted by B. Carfree
The two can be related. As a rider fatigues, there is a tendency to put less load on the pedals and thus more on the saddle. Eventually, that load leads to hot spots, especially when the rider hasn't been riding much. Sometimes, the rest stops just can't come frequently enough to relieve this.
Yeah I'm trying to remember that ill prepared century I rode in '85.

I was showing off through the first part. After my last pull I dropped out of the paceline and solo'd through the last half bucking a pretty good headwind. I was struggling alright but refused the sag and took a donut from him.......kicked me right back into gear through the finish but I did have to pull my pickup over on the way home, roll out of it and straighten my legs out for the cramps.

What I would have done different is not to hot dog through the first of it as if I were properly prepared.
Zinger is offline  
Old 06-08-14, 11:11 AM
  #25  
jyl
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
jyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 7,639

Bikes: 61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 86 P'geot PX 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997

Mentioned: 146 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 49 Times in 31 Posts
Pioneer Century Report

Aka "The No-Preparation Century"

It can, in fact, be done. With no preparation other than a daily 4 mile/each way bike commute, and just a few 25 to 45 mile weekend rides under my belt so far in 2014, the Pioneer Century was perhaps not so easy, but it was doable and done.

The ride is organized by the Portland Wheelmen. There are loops of 10, 30, 45 and 55 miles from the ride's base in a big park in Canby OR. For the century, you ride the 55 mile loop, then the 45 mile loop.

The 55 mile loop has a 1300 foot climb and miles of choppy rollers. After it leaves the town, the route is on quiet two lane roads, with only occasional cars. There are two rest stops with food, water, toilets, and a mechanic. A quick bite at the base, and its on to the 45 mile loop. This one is mostly flat with some rollers, and we also had rising wind that had grown into a relentless headwind on the return leg.

I didn't start the ride well. Beyond being untrained, I was just feeling flat that morning. My riding buddy and I set off at 7 am. By the first hour I was conscious of working and breathing harder than I should have been doing; in the second hour I was getting worried about my fitness and my left lower back hurt. I calmed the backache with stretching on the bike and then a straighter spine position. My legs smoothed out in hour three and four, so that I was riding, maybe not veeery strongly, but at least manageably with short bursts of strength. At the top of hour five I had some discomfort above my left knee and the tops of my calf muscles were hinting at cramping up; I varied my cadence and position for awhile and both problems went away. My buddy regretted wearing his Camelback as the straps hurt his neck. During the last ten miles I was really quite tired. If necessary, I could have done the 45 mile loop again, but with a lot of groveling and potentially bonking.

We rode 103 miles, in 6:00 hours ride time, with an hour stopped, at average speed 17.1 mph not counting stops. There was 2300 ft climbed and my top speed was 42.9 mph - on a downhill, of course. On the flats, we sometimes cruised slowly at 17 mph (16 mph when the headwind started) and sometimes wasted energy at 19-21 mph (usually in groups, but there were a couple ill advised stretches when we pushed 19 mph into the wind). On the hills, we started out climbing them with vim, but after hour two I was trying to go up slowly to save energy. Unfortunately, 42x26 is not actually low enough to spin seated up a sharp roller, and every time I got out of the saddle, I felt the level in my gas tank fall a little. I burned 5,500 calories and ate a banana, a PBJ, a couple Dixie cups of M&Ms, a small burrito, half a potato, and a few cookies.

Unlike STP, at the Pioneer Century you're riding alone much of the time, especially on the 45 mile loop. My riding buddy and I spent many miles pushing into the wind, with no other riders in sight. But when we did encounter other riders, these were frequently repeat sightings, and as we began to recognize each other, we had some nice chats and I had some stretches of being towed, which was nice on this breezy day. Overall this route was harder than STP.

My riding buddy and I were both on vintage steel. He rides a gorgeous green/purple '80s Basso, that always gets lots of comments. I rode the same bike I always choose for centuries, my fendered and saddle-bagged commuter-machine, an '80s Peugeot. It the heaviest road bike I own by far (30 lbs), but it also has the lowest low gear among my roadbikes (42x26), fits me like a old baseball mitt, and is thoroughly sorted and reliable. The only problem I had was a flat, which I repaired with a can of Vittoria Pit Stop.

Later that day I was kind of stiff, my quads protested if I walked slowly down stairs, and my back is slightly achy.

To sum it up: I did this century with no real preparation, it was more taxing than I would have liked, but all in all the ride went fine.

My buddy needs to ride a couple more centuries this month to prepare for the STP 1-day ride in July. I may do one with him. It has been a slow start to the year, fitness-wise. I'm five lb heavier than I normally am at this point, with weaker lungs and wind. I turned 51 y/o in March and realize that I need to work harder - not just for bike fitness, but for daily living fitness like flexibility, lifting things, squatting to fish something from the bottom cupboard. This ride was a nice kick in the pants.

Last edited by jyl; 06-08-14 at 11:31 AM.
jyl is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.