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Old 10-10-14, 04:40 AM
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Gravel Grinding and Dogs

Since the days are shorter I have started Gravel Grinding. One thing I found out yesterday there are more dogs willing to chase on country roads. I actaully found out twice as a big dog was chasing that I had much more energy than I thougt and going 20+ on gravel was possible .
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How aggressive were the dogs? Sheep dogs will chase and sometimes nip, but usually don't really want to bite. Other dogs can be out for blood.
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After a couple of uncomfortable situations over the last few years, I finally gave in an bought some pepper spray. A good tip that was given to me by a rural delivery man who deals with nuisance dogs by spraying a short burst on the ground (you need a stream or close cone pattern for this) between himself and the animal. Most dogs will get a whiff and back off to bark from a distance. If an actual attack is imminent, he already has the can out do to what he needs to.
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Originally Posted by Planemaker View Post
Since the days are shorter I have started Gravel Grinding. One thing I found out yesterday there are more dogs willing to chase on country roads. I actaully found out twice as a big dog was chasing that I had much more energy than I thougt and going 20+ on gravel was possible .
See?! That's what my "quick fast and hurry up" thread is all about. You know, those times when you got a need for speed.
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I've been thinking about getting some pepper spray for some time. Good thread.
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I thought about this after a couple recent scares, but I figured that in the panic I'd probably spray the thing into my own face!

How easy are those things to use? If they're anything like fire extinguishers then I'll pass. (They'll find my charred remains still trying to get the pin out).
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I got some that is easy to work. It's smaller than my cell phone. You simply hold it, slide your index finger over the trigger tube slide (your finger has to intentionally push aside a plastic cover that keeps from discharging accidentally), point, and pull.
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Originally Posted by GravelMN View Post
After a couple of uncomfortable situations over the last few years, I finally gave in an bought some pepper spray. A good tip that was given to me by a rural delivery man who deals with nuisance dogs by spraying a short burst on the ground (you need a stream or close cone pattern for this) between himself and the animal. Most dogs will get a whiff and back off to bark from a distance. If an actual attack is imminent, he already has the can out do to what he needs to.
I've done that in the past. It worked for me. It's a win-win situation. The dog doesn't bite me 'cause I obviously will taste bad. But the dog still wins 'cause he chased me off his territory.

Edited to add, my cousin had trained guard dogs. His were trained to ignore pepper spray and still attack. The point is pepper spray won't stop every dog. But 999/1000 works for me.
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Edited to add, my cousin had trained guard dogs. His were trained to ignore pepper spray and still attack. The point is pepper spray won't stop every dog. But 999/1000 works for me.
If your cousin had trained guard dogs and they were in a position to attack cyclists riding along, your cousin belongs in jail.
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If your cousin had trained guard dogs and they were in a position to attack cyclists riding along, your cousin belongs in jail.
True. But never forget dogs are intelligent and some like to figure things out. Such as finding a weak point in the fence, gate, etc.
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Put the Animal control officer's number on your speed dial.
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I generally carry pepper spray, but a squirt of water from my water bottle is typically enough to back off any dog who gets too close. Combined with an authoritative "No! Bad Dog!", my legs have remained bite free.
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Sympathy here, been there, done that. Once after a day of Mountain biking in Ruidoso, NM I decided to bike over a mountain to get a burger and Onion rings in town. I was taking a road through a community and heard a dog barking, then I saw it. It was a three legged dog, lived in a house just below the top of the hill. But he was behind a fence, for a minute. Then he ducked under the fence and the chase was on. PROBLEM, two pickups from TEXAS loaded with cowboys saw what was going on. They pulled over and were rooting for the dog. My pride swelled up, no way I am kicking a three legged dog and no way am I loosing. I won the race, but I was DOG tired.
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Maybe bring the frame pump along
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Please, guys, not this again. If you've ever had to help a dog recover from pepper spray, you'd never consider doing it unless you're just a sadistic bastard. Get off the bike, and use it as a barrier. A strong NO! is usually enough to make them back down and go home. Once they realize you're human and not a weird-looking gazelle, they'll back down. Instinct makes them chase anything that moves, and when they saw your pumping legs they couldn't help themselves.

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I generally carry pepper spray, but a squirt of water from my water bottle is typically enough to back off any dog who gets too close. Combined with an authoritative "No! Bad Dog!", my legs have remained bite free.
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I was taking a road through a community and heard a dog barking, then I saw it. It was a three legged dog, lived in a house just below the top of the hill. But he was behind a fence, for a minute. Then he ducked under the fence and the chase was on. PROBLEM, two pickups from TEXAS loaded with cowboys saw what was going on. They pulled over and were rooting for the dog. My pride swelled up, no way I am kicking a three legged dog and no way am I loosing. I won the race, but I was DOG tired.
Good man!

I had a three-legged dog when I was a kid. He became a three-legged dog because he chased cars. After losing the back leg I think he might have even been faster. Power to weight ratio, I guess. He never stopped chasing, either, but he left kids on bikes alone. If he walked up to the wrong side of a tree to do his business, rather than turn around and re-direct his aim, he would lift his good back leg, tilt his equipment toward the tree, balancing on the front two legs and fire away! No BS.

His name was Kilroy. Helluva good dog, too. Lost half of his tail in a fight with a German Shepherd twice his size. The Shepherd backed down.



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Originally Posted by RideMyWheel View Post
Please, guys, not this again. If you've ever had to help a dog recover from pepper spray, you'd never consider doing it unless you're just a sadistic bastard. Get off the bike, and use it as a barrier. A strong NO! is usually enough to make them back down and go home. Once they realize you're human and not a weird-looking gazelle, they'll back down. Instinct makes them chase anything that moves, and when they saw your pumping legs they couldn't help themselves.



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The vast, vast majority of dogs will back down if you talk to them and/or squirt some water at them. A few won't. I think that this was the point of the thread. Defending yourself in such a situation is not sadism.
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Do you have to dismount to use the pepper spray? Taking one hand off the bars to point a water bottle or spray seems hard to me - it would slow me down and make more vulnerable. And giving a dog in that situation any kind of attention might just get the dog more excited. I've had dogs run but not threaten me. A strong "NO!" usually helps. Sometimes I just out-run them - if they're small enough and if I have a big enough lead. But there are dogs that no cyclist could out-run and so you hope those are friendly.
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I am very much against pepper spraying a dog except as an absolute last resort. That's why I didn't carry any for so long. I'm a huge dog lover and have had several in my lifetime. My golden is curled up on the couch as I type. I've had many dog encounters over the years but 99% you can back down, outrun or walk out of their territory without incident. I would never pepper spray a dog in the face unless all other options were off the table and I was in real danger of being bitten. I've had two situations over the past few years where the spray would have been out and I might have used the indirect spray on the ground between us approach. I know there are riders who will say "just outrun em" but for a 50 year old Clyde doing centuries on a steel bike in hilly country, that isn't always an option.
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I have had pets all my life and have mourned their passing but I don't intend to spend time in traction to 'save' an animal that is 'only doing what comes natural'.
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All of this begs the pressing question: OP, why do you want to grind your gravel? Couldn't you just buy a finer grade?
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Ride on gravel in a very rural area, lots of dogs of all sizes and temperaments. Mostly, dogs chase for the sport of it. Let then catch up to you, stop cycling (not encouraging the chase). Then say " now that you have it, what are you going to do with it ? Most dogs will bark down. However for the rare dog that keeps going,
i carry a 16" piece of rope with a big knot on the end- this smacked upside the head is cause for dog defeat.
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A sharp, command voice, NO! directed right at the dog will usually make it hesitate long enough to make a get-away.
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If you must carry pepper spray, be sure to buy a dog specific type. It's weaker than human intended spray. A dog's tear ducts don't work like ours and human defense spray can cause permanent damage.
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