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Old 10-16-17, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by papajoe
i went to 3 shops in 2 days. i was "fitted" on the same year, make, and model of bike at each store. TREK dealers, all sized me on different sized bikes. a 56, 58, and a 60. each of the stores only had the bike in 1 size, and low and behold each said that was exactly my size.
Ummm ... that is the reason people are told to shop for a bike shop, not a bike. You went to three bad shops (or at least two.) If this were me, I would head back to the shop which tried to sell me the 56 ... and see if you trust them.

If not ... well, sorry, you live in a place where there aren't any "good" bike shops. I live in an area where there is One, good or not.

I am sure there are four or five competing Ferrari dealers in your town, right?

Yeah, it is a pain to have to drive 45 minutes to a good shop ... I might have to drive twice that. It is a lot more of a pain to get a bike which doesn't fit and then get screwed over if you need service ... to me. You make your own choices.
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the above example bike($2600) has about a thousand dollar gross profit.
Yes ... in any retail business three times markup is pretty much normal. Buy at a grand, sell at three grand. Pay the rent, the insurance, FICA, the employees, service on the existing merchandise (debt service) plus take home enough money to eat.

If the guy is making a grand on a $2600 bike he is cutting it really close ... but if you listen to the talk about bike shops, that is why they are going out of business. Low profit margins, the need to carry a certain number of a certain bike to get Any of that bike ... a bunch of stuff. It may sound outrageous to someone who has never been in business .... but I'd bet the bike shop owner drives a car a lot older than yours. Those guys aren't getting rich ... they are going bankrupt.
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thanks Maelochs for adding. my biggest frustration is not the gross margin the LBS has, its the lack of value added that bothers me. i would be happier to pay the full margin and receive the full service. not the full margin, and big box service level. in my previous business we called this a death spiral.
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Glad i was able to help. Usually i am just obnoxious.

Have you tried https://www.competitivecyclist.com/S...ulatorBike.jsp It can work for some and is useless for others, but it works for me and I have the weirdest proportions of any human (and most other animals) on the planet.

I prefer a smaller frame and more seat post and stem. Some folks like a bigger frame .... most people recommend 58 for anyone from 6'0" to 6'2" but I fit Much better on most 56s ... but it also changes from bike to bike, because every frame is a little different.

Pretty clear the 60 was ridiculously big, which makes me think the 56 is right and the 58 doable but marginal. You cannot make a frame smaller, but you can "stretch" a smaller frame with seat post, set-back, spacers and stem

Originally Posted by papajoe
my biggest frustration is not the gross margin the LBS has, its the lack of value added that bothers me. i would be happier to pay the full margin and receive the full service. not the full margin, and big box service level. in my previous business we called this a death spiral.
And this is part of why they are spiraling ... they need to move what they have, and will sometiems screw a customer to do it ... make a sale, lose a customer. Great way not to stay in business.
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