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My "ergo" bars are ready for the garbage . . .

Old 06-18-15, 08:39 AM
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My "ergo" bars are ready for the garbage . . .

My bike came standard with "ergo" shaped bars that have a flat top to the hoods with a very long reach, then this basically straight down section, to an almost unusable drop that is basically 45 degrees. WHAT THE HELL?! This is the farthest thing from "ergo" that I can imagine. The curve isn't dramatic enough, the drop is very far, and the angles just seem all wrong. They are very uncomfortable, most positions are almost unusable, and I HATE THEM. I have tried like umpteen different bar/hood positions, including riding around for a week with no tape basically moving stuff every time I got on the bike. It was a HUGE PITA and I'm basically back where I started.

If I rotate the bars so that the drops are usable, there is a major downslope on the "shoulders" to the hoods, which makes a very sharp angle at the transition, causing wrist pain when on the hoods. Also, it puts the brifters in an odd location that is unnatural to use when on the lower positions. The middle section of the "drops" in this position is almost 45 degrees and almost unusable unless I fold VERY far forward.

If i rotate the bar so the tops and shoulders are flat to the hoods, the flats are very long and it almost makes me want to swap stems to adjust the reach. In this orientation the middle section of the drops is totally vertical and unusable, and the lower drops are at 45 degrees, causing an unnatural bend in the wrist and making them basically unusable.

Additionally these are 42cm bars with a 25.4 clamp, and I feel they are definitely a bit too narrow for my shoulder width. I think I need a 44 or even a 46cm, but I can't find anything in a shape I like with a small clamp diameter, and I don't want to have to buy new stems (I have like 6 different lengths at the moment allowing me to fine tune my reach, and they would be very expensive to replace).

I like the shape of more modern short reach compact drop bars, and I like to change hand positions a lot. I commute about 15 miles round trip, and do 30 mile rides on the weekends with the occasional club ride or race. I like to use my drops AND hoods, and don't want to have to tweak my setup for every ride. I can't find anything at a reasonable price (under $40), with a 25.4 clamp, with the width I'm looking for (at least 44cm). Any suggestions? Any specific make/model I might like? Do I bite the bullet on the stems and just get a bigger clamp diameter and more expensive bars? Should I just bend the bars I have? Should I throw them in the garbage and learn to ride a unicycle?
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I don't like "ergo" bars either. I like nice smooth transitions and curves... I can find a lot more useful positions on my old as the hills Cinelli Giro D'Italia bars than on modern ergos. I'm pleased to see one can still buy these...
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Handlebars are very personal, sounds like you want short reach, shallow drop, long drops, 44-46 cm, 25.4 mm. Just look around, there will be many bars like this, but usually $40-50 rather than <$40.
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Handlebars are very personal, sounds like you want short reach, shallow drop, long drops, 44-46 cm, 25.4 mm. Just look around, there will be many bars like this, but usually $40-50 rather than <$40.
I see lots of bars that fit this description but they all have 31.8 clamps, meaning I'd have to buy new stems also, and go through the whole trial period again . . . ugh. I guess if I'm gonna ride the bike for a while it's a good investment, but it's still frustrating.
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Found this today and wished that I had seen it before - it helped me understand the relation of my bars in space relative to my stem angles and setup.

Turns out I had the clamp a little low, with my stem "pointed down" making it basically horizontal (it is a -17 on a 73 degree head tube). This made the drops WAY too low, which was causing the odd angles and discomfort in my wrists. I flipped my stem (making it effectively 34 degrees up) but kept everything else pretty much the same, which brought the hoods up 2 inches, and about .7 inches closer, which was a nice compromise between the tops and drops and actually makes the drops much more comfortable (less angle and pain in the wrist on the drops). This is also a much less agro stance, and I actually found I liked having less pressure on my hands when on the hoods, and as a result the width didn't bother me as much on a 2 mile test spin.

I was about ready to throw in the towel and drop $75+ on a new stem and bars. The bike was only $350 and I was having a hard time swallowing that. I'll fine tune it a bit when I get home, but suffice to say, I'm really happy I found this grid and tried the new stem orientation.
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Modolo's ergo design straightens the curve in the drops for a specific grip . that was early 80's, ... patents lapse..

now Asia at a lower cost (& local to the bike factories) jumped on that feature, but may not be as well done.
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Your not going to have a lot of luck with different options for a 25.4mm (1") clamp size. Thats an old, old standard. 31.8mm is the new standard, and before that 26mm was the standard. Your going back 2 generations for road bike bars to have a 25.4mm clamp size.

At 25.4mm try a set of traditional curved bars. Otherwise I suggest that you need to change stems unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by no sweat
I don't like "ergo" bars either. I like nice smooth transitions and curves... I can find a lot more useful positions on my old as the hills Cinelli Giro D'Italia bars than on modern ergos. I'm pleased to see one can still buy these...
I like the flat tops on my bars. But, like you, I hate the crimped corners on the drops. They seem to made for extra-small hands, and fit very poorly. And, when on the bottom of the drops, my hands hang out an inch or so beyond the bar ends
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I am Ok with the Trekking bars, I rarely use my Road bike at all ..
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