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Brooks Flyer versus Brooks B17

Old 05-06-17, 04:17 AM
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Brooks Flyer versus Brooks B17

I am interested in the Brooks Flyer saddle, but I have seen information that suggests it is best for a bicycle with the handlebars at seat level or slightly above. Regarding the B17 it is suggested for bicycles with handlebars at seat level or slightly below. Currently my handlebars are about 2 cm below seat level and will probably go lower as I become more flexible and stronger.

If the Flyer is the same as the B17 only with springs why would seat handlebar height make a difference between the two? Is it:

1) They are slightly different in shape.
2) The springs will cause a slight change in the saddle making it uncomfortable if the bars are too low.
3 ) Since the handlebars are below the seat there is no need for springs since not as much weight is on the saddle.

Any feedback you can offer is appreciated also if there is anyone who has the Flyer with handlebars below the seat I would like to hear your opinion.

My bicycle is a Swift Folder and I find the stock seat too soft.

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I can't provide any feedback on the Flyer, but I do run a B17 on my Bianchi Pista fixed gear bike with 9cm of drop from top of tip of the B17 to the top of the handlebar. It's perfectly fine for my 5'11" 54 year old body and butt. I've read repeatedly that it isn't ideal, but I still find the saddle the most comfortable of any saddle I have used.
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I've got one bike where I've used both the B.17 and the Flyer, and I consider them to be suitable for the same riding positions. The bike is a regular, albeit older, road bike. The bars are a bit lower than the saddle.
Here's a shot of the bike with the B.17....

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If your handlebars are lower than the saddle consider the Brooks Conquest instead.
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It's the coil springs in the 'flyer' that are different .. frame is different to support the springs, leather shape the same.

your weight will compress the springs a bit, & as they work the angle changes a bit, pivot is in the saddle nose..

you want bars lower than the saddle? the Team Pro. [want springs? the Conquest] .. may be better suited,, than the B17.

( C 15 is the similar niche, like team pro, with the C 17 for bars at same height as saddle..)


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Thanks all for the replies,
I have decided to go with the Flyer after all. The bicycle in question, being a folder, is used mostly for errands and hopefully in the future for train and bus touring. Since I have my handlebars currently at about 1 cm to 2 cms below seat level it shouldn't make a difference since I have rather long arms. My body is angled at around 60 degrees when I ride and going by the Brooks video on their site I am more Flyer than Conquest. But again I guess it is all relative since different people have different body dimensions and in the end I will only know for sure once I try it out.

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