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Hartigan 03-01-11 02:36 AM

BMX Evolution or Have we crossed the line?
 
What do you think guys?

I am fine with people pulling tricks on Fixed Bikes but they seem a bit sketchy on a skatepark...however is more practical to move around on a fixed than on a BMX with micro gearing:twitchy:


Enjoy

Squirrelli 03-01-11 02:50 AM

Meh, I doubt the skaters are pleased with more bikes showing up at the park but I guess as long as everyone knows their etiquette, then I'm fine with them being in the park.

motobeCarnage 03-01-11 08:15 AM

it's like watching freestyle bmx in 1982.

Xgecko 03-01-11 08:34 AM

kinda cool but if I saw him in my skatepark I'd kick him out and have his bike seized.

Davemutt 03-01-11 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by motobeCarnage (Post 12296480)
it's like watching freestyle bmx in 1982.

That was my first thought too.

Bike's are versatile, but there's something to be said for having the right tool for the job. He's really limited to what he can do on that bike versus a freestyle bike.

Robofunc 03-01-11 09:23 AM

The tricks are the same, but the tires are skinnier. Whatever.

carleton 03-01-11 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Robofunc (Post 12296811)
The tricks are the same, but the tires are skinnier. Whatever.

The tricks are not the same. As motobeCarnage stated, it's like watching BMX from 1982. No BMXer would be caught dead filming these tricks.

The only thing that has evolved is people's video editing skills.

The way you used to get a video part was to practice really hard, do really hard tricks, then hope a videographer from a video magazine or some team would come and shoot you doing rad tricks...then you waited 3 months to see if you made it in.

Now it's: Go dork around in the parking lot for 30 minutes and edit on iMovie for 2 days and BOOM! You got a video part.

FGFS has definitely taken freestyle down several pegs.


rootbeer 03-01-11 10:52 AM

The tires haven't gotten skinnier...fgfs runs mountain bike rims these days. Not to mention velocity made chukkers so if you want to use 700c you can use like 40c+ tires.

Every video I watch of fgfs is usually just; nose pivot, wheelie, 180 to fakie, bunny hop with bar spin, slooooow downs for a 2 second crank grind, peg grind down stair railing (usually with a wipeout/fall), random non cycling whacky and or I'm so crazy antics.

Not hatin', I'm guilty of watching some fgfs videos, but generally the lack of flow/speed that bmx has ruins fgfs for me.

But there cycling and they look like there having a blast so more to them.

markaitch 03-01-11 11:03 AM

since its pretty obvious that this fgfs stuff doesn't get any love around here i almost hate to admit i do get a kick out of it. but the worst part of that video is that it looks like right after the fadeout around 2:00 when he starts jumping that he swapped over to a freewheel...that is lame.

anyway, how about this one for a different take on fg riding?


carleton 03-01-11 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by markaitch (Post 12297401)
since its pretty obvious that this fgfs stuff doesn't get any love around here i almost hate to admit i do get a kick out of it. but the worst part of that video is that it looks like right after the fadeout around 2:00 when he starts jumping that he swapped over to a freewheel...that is lame.

anyway, how about this one for a different take on fg riding?


I wonder what kind of response that video would get on the MTB forum.

A fixed gear hub is not a trick multiplier. Just because something is done on a fixed gear doesn't make it better than the same done on a freewheel. More difficult? Yes. Better? No.

Preparing and eating a sandwich while standing on one foot is not gonna make the sandwich taste any better.

Not being able to coast is not gonna make a trick any bigger or a single-track flow any better. In fact, it usually has the opposite result.

hairnet 03-01-11 11:23 AM

There's a guy doing off road on a unicycle, way more interesting than some kids on fixies

ketto 03-01-11 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by markaitch (Post 12297401)

That trail looks fun as hell, but I bet I could do it faster on my monocog, the same way those tricks would look better on my BMX.

muckymucky 03-01-11 12:47 PM

there's good and bad about it but...trick track frames make me cry.

fxdgrjedi 03-01-11 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 12297474)
Preparing and eating a sandwich while standing on one foot is not gonna make the sandwich taste any better.
.

That about sums it up perfectly.

bleedingapple 03-01-11 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by markaitch (Post 12297401)
since its pretty obvious that this fgfs stuff doesn't get any love around here i almost hate to admit i do get a kick out of it. but the worst part of that video is that it looks like right after the fadeout around 2:00 when he starts jumping that he swapped over to a freewheel...that is lame.

anyway, how about this one for a different take on fg riding?



It seems like just cause he is on a fixie that he doesnt need a helmet... hell even his camera man is wearing a fullface. I think most single track riders would wear a helmet... or maybe he really needs his face seen on video?

ShaneRidesBikes 03-01-11 05:31 PM

http://vimeo.com/20502770

FGFS is here to stay

Chad1376 03-01-11 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 12296909)
...The only thing that has evolved is people's video editing skills....Now it's: Go dork around in the parking lot for 30 minutes and edit on iMovie for 2 days and BOOM! You got a video part.

Que gratuitous video of my kids at the skate park. :lol:


nuhtowel 03-01-11 05:49 PM

FGFS equates to this in my brain
http://hackerboss.com/pics/hammer-screw.jpg

fixedgear80 03-01-11 09:32 PM

However I DO like the front brake setup on the OP's video!!
Is that a regular bmx style? I'm not into tricking so I guess I wouldn't need it anyways.

adriano 03-01-11 09:35 PM

its dumb.

MileHighMark 03-01-11 09:40 PM

"Let's Riding on 2010" indeed.

HFTB 03-01-11 09:47 PM

In my opinion this stuff sucks. The tricks don't change, like never.

PlattsVegas 03-01-11 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by Hartigan (Post 12295861)
however is more practical to move around on a fixed than on a BMX with micro gearing:twitchy:

I disagree. Having ridden BMX bikes for several years, I would have to say that I can move around faster in an urban environment on a BMX bike than any other. And you can still achieve high gear ratios with micro drivetrains.

XianRL 03-01-11 10:23 PM

I may not be a fan, but:
if you ride FGFS, awesome you're on a bike;
if you race on the velodrome, awesome you're on a bike;
if you wanna be trendy, awesome you're on a bike;
if you wanna ride a bike you built, awesome you're on a bike.

I like when people are on bikes and could care less why they do it as long as they are happy.

ShaneRidesBikes 03-01-11 11:09 PM

BTW the original video is not a good representation of where fixed freestyle is currently at.

Huge stairsets and nollie barspins off stairs


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