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Eurobike 2015: Dahon announces Curl for a record seventh time!

Old 01-07-16, 01:29 PM
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I like where you were going with that... the Dahon Camel Pro.
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However, function is beautiful.
The larger top tube bend design does get the saddle to tuck in more in the fold than competitors. Ie mezzo, Brompton,birdie. Which is the disappointing aspect of these folders.
Not sure it needs the tilting seat arrangement.
In the future more folders could take advantage of this aspect of the design to achieve a neater more compact fold.

Evolution isn't always pretty.

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I'm in for AT LEAST 2 now!!!


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Without ever getting to play with either (obviously) and going strictly on visual inspection, I like the 'eastern' Curl design, with the serpentine top tube, better.



However the 'western' Curl seems to have won the internal company debate.

So, 'looks'? It's a small wheel folder. The only thing that seems awkward to me is the lack of any forward handlepost cant. Well, nothing a Hallo Stem wouldn't fix.
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Old 01-07-16, 08:27 PM
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I like this bike, I prefer the older versions but the new one is nice too. I hope it works for Dahon.

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I don't think Brompton will even look twice at this unoriginal attempt to be honest! Their upcoming special edition in April 2016 will way outsell the Curl alone IMHO! ;-)
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Old 01-09-16, 01:25 PM
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I looks good to me. I'm having trouble with the Dahon China link with the translator. But am I correct in thinking the bike is ~25 pounds with a rear rack and fenders? How does that compare with the Brompton?
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Also what hub is it running?
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Also what hub is it running?
The most recent non-producing production announcements have shown the bikes equipped with Shimano Nexus 3 (SG-3R41) and Nexus 7 (SG-7R46) hubs.
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Old 01-11-16, 03:53 AM
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Great so it NOT available with a 3 speed or 7 speed hub.

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Old 01-12-16, 08:30 AM
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I'm really sorry it looks like an old Brompton frame from the 1990's. It looks ugly for a 21st century folding bike. I'll lay money down that it won't sell that much! The Dahon Eezz is much nicer and serves this segment perfectly. why the need to copy Brompton?
DAHON Bikes:*Dahon EEZZ
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How does it look like a brompton from the 90's. Line only maybe.
Qr stem and frame catch,adjustable open clamp stem,adjustable brakes with qr. Better quality rack? Standard axel width. Proper welded drop outs. Brakes without inverted feeds ie standard. Replaceable chain ring, metal chain ring guard, adjustable angle stem, modern seat pin. Better designed one piece rack with allen keys bolts rather than riveted stays. Self latching rear frame clip.
Detachable pedals.
Anodised components, lack of rusting chrome....

Sorry mechanically its not a Brompton from 90s.
Its still not available however.
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I referred to the look of the frame. See:https://www.commuterbikeguide.co.uk/w...n-Bicycle.jpeg

Fair enough if you dislike Bromptons, lots don't. Matter how much you strip down the bike parts, the Brompton folds well and rides well and it's durable. I've never had a moments trouble with my 2 Brommys. . This is not a pretty bike in terms of frame curvature at all. Dahon don't even need it in their range when they already have the small folding Eezz.

Anyone who claims Dahon are being original must be in denial...

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Old 01-12-16, 01:28 PM
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The Dahon Eez is also 9.8kg vs the 12.8kg of the Curl. A much more worthy rival for the Brompton and perhaps Dahon should try to have a more focused range and work with this form factor?
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I referred to the look of the frame. See:https://www.commuterbikeguide.co.uk/w...n-Bicycle.jpeg

Fair enough if you dislike Bromptons, lots don't. Matter how much you strip down the bike parts, the Brompton folds well and rides well and it's durable. I've never had a moments trouble with my 2 Brommys. . This is not a pretty bike in terms of frame curvature at all. .
It is irrelevant whether I like bromptons or not. I realise you spoke about the overall shape, but my eye gets draw to detailing in components and engineering.
From this view point its a very different animal to a 90's Brompton


I believe dahon can rightly claim more originality and innovation in total over the years than any other folder manufacturer. Just the innovations are spread over a range of bikes.

Lets keep things in prospective about compairing a cutting edge modern bike to a 90s bike that didn't use modern components for the 90's.

Only problem is the modern bike in question does not exist....

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It is irrelevant whether I like bromptons or not. I realise you spoke about the overall shape, but my eye gets draw to detailing in components and engineering.
From this view point its a very different animal to a 90's Brompton


I believe dahon can rightly claim more originality and innovation in total over the years than any other folder manufacturer. Just the innovations are spread over a range of bikes.

Lets keep things in prospective about compairing a cutting edge modern bike to a 90s bike that didn't use modern components for the 90's.

Only problem is the modern bike in question does not exist....
I referred to the curvature of the frame and stand by my opinion that many will find it ugly and a minority will like it. I'm not saying Dahons are bad but the Curl is an anomaly and unoriginal. The Eezz is a more interesting bike folds really small and is 3kg lighter. I'm sorry but I'll agree to differ on Dahon being the most innovative in the sector. The largest yes but the most innovative? I think not! I think Pacific, Brompton, Bike Friday, Mezzo, Airnimal and a few others would beg to differ!
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I like the ezz also. Not ridden one however. It reminds me of the diblasi semi automatic type fold. I agree the ezz could be a great bike with some development. Its not a replacment for other commuters on the market.

I would like to be able to buy the curl mainly as its 355 etro. It would give the chance to run with one wheel size on most of my folders.

I guess we are both correct about innovation. Dahon can claim the most innovations during its history. But its certainly not the most innovating of the folding manufactors.
I feel bike friday can probably clame the broadest innovations in models and concepts, if not engineering approaches.

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I like the ezz also. Not ridden one however. It reminds me of the diblasi semi automatic type fold. I agree the ezz could be a great bike with some development. Its not a replacment for other commuters on the market.

I would like to be able to buy the curl mainly as its 355 etro. It would give the chance to run with one wheel size on most of my folders.

I guess we are both correct about innovation. Dahon can claim the most innovations during its history. But its certainly not the most innovating of the folding manufactors.
I feel bike friday can probably clame the broadest innovations in models and concepts, if not engineering approaches.
I'd love to read your review of a Curl if you get your hands on one! :-)
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I'm not saying Dahons are bad but the Curl is an anomaly and unoriginal. The Eezz is a more interesting bike folds really small and is 3kg lighter.
well you're right about unoriginal. but, the eezz and jifo are hardly Dahon innovations. they either bought out or stole the design from a small japanese company that's been producing the bipod mint since 2008.



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well you're right about unoriginal. but, the eezz and jifo are hardly Dahon innovations. they either bought out or stole the design from a small japanese company that's been producing the bipod mint since 2008.



Thanks for the heads up. Noted!
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I've never seen anyone ride the EEZZ, and Dahon didn't reply to my email about where to find it in Europe (although I know of one online site in Germany that sells it for $€900).

However, it 1) only has three speeds, and 2) as a derailleur instead of a more convenient IGH, and 3) can't carry a bag on the front unlike other Dahons.

Too bad, because it could be a good alternative to the Brompton for short rides in the city.
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That short wheel base from seat to rear wheel will make it a tad tail happy and skiddy in the wet. I bit like my former Diblasi R4. I didnt like the unmodulated hub front brakes combined with the less than secure handling in the wet.

Some of the other issues on the ezz can be address such as gears and luggage capacity. I like the fast fold action.
It can be a boom on a train.
I used to unfold my dibalsi laterally as I got off the train, or as I walked along the patform.
My mezzos and Bromptons I used to half unfold and adjust seatpost height on the crowded train then unfold as I got off. The mezzo was better as I could unfold it quicker and tighten the front wheel QR as I walked along.
However, lots of convience elsewhere in the brommie package on a busy train. Mezzo half fold has to unfolded before reverting to fully folded. Luggage can be left on a half folded brommie. But the loaded brommie front bag makes it unbalanced to carry up station steps by compairison.
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Originally Posted by tcs View Post
(Edit: '2105' s/b '2015'. Duh.)


Here's the latest from the company
. Anybody's guess as to what 'the long-awaited Curl ...
Something wrong? **********DAHON**********2016********************?_???_????

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I am not too keen on the illustrated riding positions for these bikes......
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