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silverx 09-19-21 04:44 PM

Anyone try child/kid seat on helix?

TIA

mkatz 09-19-21 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by silverx (Post 22237057)
Anyone try child/kid seat on helix?

TIA

There's an owner's group on "Telegram" one of whose participants described his use of the "Thule Ridealong". He wrote that "clearance is tight but it works".

mkatz 09-19-21 05:13 PM

Kenda Konversion Pro DTC Folding Tire in size 40-507 is available for purchase on "MODERNBIKE . COM". Wondering if anyone has installed a set of these on their Helix and would care to comment?

bikeforumKEN 09-26-21 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by kanagawanrider (Post 22082080)
I just got mine. I ordered with a stated April delivery date. I was going to post a picture of the weld, but looks like I can't post pictures until I have ten posts. Shoot me a private message if you want pictures of the weld (or the rest of it). It looks exactly like the previously posted before/after pic to my amateur eyes.

Well bummer, I can't PM you for the photo request cause I don't have 10 forum posts. Is any senior member here willing to post this new weld photo on the forum to share? Thanks for the help

Jonesandrew 09-27-21 03:25 AM

Weld pictures
 

Originally Posted by bikeforumKEN (Post 22246569)
Well bummer, I can't PM you for the photo request cause I don't have 10 forum posts. Is any senior member here willing to post this new weld photo on the forum to share? Thanks for the help

See post #2548 above. Some owners have posted pics of small variations where the bottom edge of the new weld doesn't quite encompass the bottom lip which spoils the "perfect" appearance of the fillet, but others are exactly as shown above.

Juliussharpe 10-06-21 11:01 AM

Looking to buy a helix if anyone is selling please pm me, thanks

ProdigyP 10-08-21 01:29 AM

Hi all, new to this forum. Just to check if the helix can be change to a sram xx1 groupset? or any groupset that is similar?

Jonesandrew 10-11-21 03:33 AM


Originally Posted by ProdigyP (Post 22261954)
Hi all, new to this forum. Just to check if the helix can be change to a sram xx1 groupset? or any groupset that is similar?

Yes, the XX1 crankset will fit, it's the crankset supplied for ultralight models, but be warned there are several constraints to be aware of when choosing a crankset. One of these is that the chain runs very close to the swing arm tube. Consequently there are limits to the largest sprocket and chain ring combinations that can be fitted without the chain starting to saw through the swing arm. The rear changer should also fit but you should contact Helix directly for detailed clarifications. It may take several days to get a response. You can see some of the ultralight derailleur component details if you go to Helix.ca and click on "Order" then "compare".

ProdigyP 10-11-21 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by Jonesandrew (Post 22265437)
Yes, the XX1 crankset will fit, it's the crankset supplied for ultralight models, but be warned there are several constraints to be aware of when choosing a crankset. One of these is that the chain runs very close to the swing arm tube. Consequently there are limits to the largest sprocket and chain ring combinations that can be fitted without the chain starting to saw through the swing arm. The rear changer should also fit but you should contact Helix directly for detailed clarifications. It may take several days to get a response. You can see some of the ultralight derailleur component details if you go to Helix.ca and click on "Order" then "compare".

Yup, understand for the crankset. What about the cassette and rear derailleur? I also have been checking other Helix bike forum / social media.
Different rider different answer. So I myself also a little bit confused. These were their respond.

Changeable:
Rider A: Using a XDR Driver.
Rider B: Quoted from Helix Upgrade Guide - You can upgrade the cassette to any configuration. Everything from a 9 tooth sprocket up to a 51t will work. The limiting factor is the front chainring. Anything above 36t will a need a smaller front chainring.

Not Changeable:
Rider C: XX1 Rear derailleur cannot mount to the hanger. Only fit rear derailleur with direct mount.

Jonesandrew 10-12-21 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by ProdigyP (Post 22265586)
Yup, understand for the crankset. What about the cassette and rear derailleur? I also have been checking other Helix bike forum / social media.
Different rider different answer. So I myself also a little bit confused. These were their respond.

Changeable:
Rider A: Using a XDR Driver.
Rider B: Quoted from Helix Upgrade Guide - You can upgrade the cassette to any configuration. Everything from a 9 tooth sprocket up to a 51t will work. The limiting factor is the front chainring. Anything above 36t will a need a smaller front chainring.

Not Changeable:
Rider C: XX1 Rear derailleur cannot mount to the hanger. Only fit rear derailleur with direct mount.

Yes, the cassette can be changed. If the one you want to use requires an XD or XDR driver, they can be fitted to the standard Formula hub. Also quoting from the upgrade guide, the standard Formula RXC-142A is "compatible with SRAM XD + XDR and Shimano Micro Spline". The Hubsmith hub fitted to the ultralight is supplied with an XD driver to allow the e13 cassette to fit. I have no knowledge of the XX1 rear derailleur mounting. From the upgrade guide:
  • Any road, MTB and other type derailleur will work, however we recommend Shimano "Shadow" derailleurs because they are low profile and will minimize folded dimensions and also the cable pull clamp will not interfere with the steerer knob when folded.
Hope this helps.

Bym 10-15-21 11:13 PM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...46be118494.png
Anyone know about the development of the Helix trailer

Khb 11-02-21 05:56 PM

travoy?
 
Sadly, I don't have a Helix. But I do have a couple of older Burley Travoys. I'd think they would work well with a Helix.
https://www.burley.com/product/travo...YaAjpgEALw_wcB

tdonline 11-23-21 07:17 AM

I received an email about an ultra light weight helix now available. It's the first helix email I have received in years. I had forgotten I had signed up for it. So the promise of a real light weight helix is finally here? For those who already have a helix, what are your thoughts?

Jipe 11-24-21 01:26 AM

Can you post the link to the page of this ultra light Helix?

How is this obtained, by using ultra light components on the standard Helix frame or by changes in the Helix frame?

Joe Remi 11-24-21 02:28 AM

Hey, I got it, too!

"Helix is now available in an Ultralight spec using the industry’s best components including Shimano Dura-Ace derailleur, Sram XX1 Eagle carbon crankset, Formula Cura XC hydraulic brakes and more. Throughout 2022 we will be releasing a full line of accessories including mudguards, racks, trailer mounts and more."

Joe Remi 11-24-21 02:31 AM

Well it ain't cheap, but 20.3 pounds is a good number.

https://www.helix.ca/store/ultralight/

Jonesandrew 11-24-21 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by tdonline (Post 22317423)
I received an email about an ultra light weight helix now available. It's the first helix email I have received in years. I had forgotten I had signed up for it. So the promise of a real light weight helix is finally here? For those who already have a helix, what are your thoughts?

Last year I got annoyed with the elongated wait for my kickstarter bike and managed to buy a slightly used 10 speed derailleur model from a backer who no longer needed it. I'm a commuter, but I only use a folder occasionally for that purpose, I mainly keep one in the car for occasional use and I like to take a folder on holidays for exploring new surroundings. Helix is quite stiff and rides better than any other folder I've tried, but it's not as stiff as the Cannondale Topstone which I normally use to travel to work. Like any other folder with long handle post and long seat post, there is lateral flex and if like me you are relatively tall (32" inseam) the seatpost flexes quite a lot when riding on bumpy ground. I actually like that feature, it behaves in a similar way to the long travel thudbusters which I have on my other folders and it provides a very comfortable ride. I store the bike stood up at one side of the load space in my car so the slim fold maximises the remaining space for other luggage which is helpful. In my opinion there are some short comings in the design, principally the limited gear range of the standard 10 speed model which is only 327%. I like to have 500% on my folders if I can get it. The 11 speed derailleur Ultralite version yields 377% range, so still way short of where I would be happy. I took the opportunity to order the Ultralight upgrade kit last year and installed it a few weeks ago. I managed to replace the 9-34T cassette with 9-39 T which yields 430% range but the chainline is now compromised and the chain only just skims past the underside of the swing arm when running in 1st gear with a 42T chainring. I've had to put protection around the swing arm tube. Because the chainline is now closer to the centreline of the bike, the space available for the rear tyre when folded is reduced so that means the Donnelly MXP tyre supplied with the UL kit now only just fits. Larger section tyres like the standard Kenda Kwest may have to be squeezed into the gap which may cause issues with the tyre rubbing on the side of the chain. The standard bike has TRP cable operated disc brakes which are perfectly adequate and work well, but I like the Formula Cura hydraulic brakes better because they have better modulation and more stopping power. Both standard and UL Shimano shifting components work predictably well for both versions. One last point, It's great to have a folding bike that doesn't look like a clown bike and still folds acceptably small. I will still be able to use the same old Samsonite for air travel which I used for previous bikes although I will have to deflate the tyres which will be a slightly inconvenient.

2_i 12-01-21 04:46 PM

Helix in the news, specifically in New Atlas, an on-line magazine dedicated to innovation.

Schwinnsta 12-03-21 07:51 PM

Is 40 mm the widest tire available tires for the bike? Just curious.

Jonesandrew 12-06-21 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by Schwinnsta (Post 22328237)
Is 40 mm the widest tire available tires for the bike? Just curious.

Yes, any wider than that and the rear tyre will not fit between the chain ring and main frame when folded.

Schwinnsta 12-06-21 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Jonesandrew (Post 22330418)
Yes, any wider than that and the rear tyre will not fit between the chain ring and main frame when folded.

That would seem a real limitation.

Joe Remi 12-07-21 02:22 AM


Originally Posted by Schwinnsta (Post 22331313)
That would seem a real limitation.

On a bike that's going to cost $4500 to get it to its original claimed weight. This was quite a journey to end up at about what you would expect a decently lightweight titanium folder to cost.

Jipe 12-07-21 04:10 AM

Actually, the frame itself isn't lightweight and I think that with the complex helicoidal folding system and locking mechanism for the fork, it cannot be lightweight.

The lower weight is obtained with very low weight parts and some tricks like Tubolito ultra lightweight inner tubes and lightweight Donnely tires that seem not available anymore (the latest Ultralight Helix mention "TBA 24" x 1.4" (ETRTO 507-33), 75-100 psi folding bead with puncture protection" for the tires, Helix can try to have custom size tires made by Schwalbe like Brompton and Moulton do).

Indeed, the price went to the level most people expected after the launch of the Kickstarter campaign but is still lower than the price of the hand welded titanium Seattle Cycles Burke 20 (if this bike is really available ?)..

Jipe 12-10-21 03:54 AM

Just got an Email from Helix saying that Helix is shipping for free worldwide for the whole month of December.

Batstar 12-31-21 03:41 PM

I haven’t posted here in a while but after waiting for years with no tangible progress I finally decided to submit a request for a refund for my two pre-ordered bikes. I just received credit back on my statement and hope that remaining backers/those with pre-ordered units get their bikes soon. I’ve since acquired a couple of e-bikes and Helix no longer fits into my long-term plans. I wish Peter and everyone else waiting on bikes the best of luck.


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