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Old 07-01-05, 01:15 PM
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LOL - you may be right. Seems like people love this bike, haven't seen one bad review on it.
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Let me give you a tip if you go for it: get your hands on a small and light 15mm wrench for taking off the back wheel. When you flat the rear wheel, you'll need it. Remember, the rear shifter hub (what are they really called?) does not allow for a quick release.

Also, get yourself some spare tubes ASAP. Long story...
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Originally Posted by oboeguy
Let me give you a tip if you go for it: get your hands on a small and light 15mm wrench for taking off the back wheel. When you flat the rear wheel, you'll need it. Remember, the rear shifter hub (what are they really called?) does not allow for a quick release.

Also, get yourself some spare tubes ASAP. Long story...
You forgot to tell him to get spare spokes as well, and to make sure his crank bolts are tight.


(A small Crescent wrench is the most versatile for removing the rear wheel axle bolts. You might also be able to get away with using a cheap socket wrench with a deep socket bit - much faster. Also make sure your tubes are the 20" x 1" - 1 1/8" size to fit the skinny Stelvio tires. Many bike shops don't normally stock these skinny tubes. Lastly, your pump, hopefully, ought to be able to pump up your tires to at least 110psi. If not, get a new pump.)
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Old 07-02-05, 05:17 PM
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Yeah I have a Crank Bros mini-pump that hits 120psi. It takes for bleeping ever to get there, but at least there's a gauge to tell me when my arm will stop burning.

BTW, a guy at Toga suggested I use Locktite on the crank.
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Old 07-03-05, 02:18 PM
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Went to Toga bikes yesterday and test rode a Speed that they had on display - I was very impressed. The bike rode very well and was suprisingly solid! Anyway, I talked with one of the bike guys at length regarding my decision of a SpeedPro vs a Jetstream. He had yet to actually see or ride a jetstream so he couldn't give much advice, but he did state that they had ordered a SpeedPro for a guy (probably you oboeguy!) and that it was a really nice bike.

Long story short, I am convinced this is the type of bike I want, but still am unsure as to the pricing. I'm having them check the availability of the SpeedPro and Jetstream XP for me on Tuesday.....

Just a question - what do people think of buying this bike retail (plus tax) vs ordering one online? I've been checking prices online and there is a significant difference in price online vs buying on retail. If i get it online, do i have to build it completely or does it come partly assembled, etc.

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Old 07-03-05, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wangta01
Went to Toga bikes yesterday and test rode a Speed that they had on display - I was very impressed. The bike rode very well and was suprisingly solid! Anyway, I talked with one of the bike guys at length regarding my decision of a SpeedPro vs a Jetstream. He had yet to actually see or ride a jetstream so he couldn't give much advice, but he did state that they had ordered a SpeedPro for a guy (probably you oboeguy!) and that it was a really nice bike.

Long story short, I am convinced this is the type of bike I want, but still am unsure as to the pricing. I'm having them check the availability of the SpeedPro and Jetstream XP for me on Tuesday.....

Just a question - what do people think of buying this bike retail (plus tax) vs ordering one online? I've been checking prices online and there is a significant difference in price online vs buying on retail. If i get it online, do i have to build it completely or does it come partly assembled, etc.

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I ordered mine online and it was mostly assembled. But, keep in mind that if you want to "activate" the warranty you have to have it tuned up by a Dahon dealer, which could be 30-45 bucks extra. The online stores don't count as Dahon dealers.
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Old 07-04-05, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pharnabazos
I ordered mine online and it was mostly assembled. But, keep in mind that if you want to "activate" the warranty you have to have it tuned up by a Dahon dealer, which could be 30-45 bucks extra. The online stores don't count as Dahon dealers.
pharnabazos,

Thanks for your reply. Sounds like getting it online wouldn't be a bad idea? I have read a couple horror stories regarding shipping and damaged boxes. Guess its a gamble, but the extra $ saved seems worth it.
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I ordered a speed 8 online (no local lbs had them) from the fitness store - the box was kind of beat up but the bike was fine. I took it to REI for initial tune up-$30 (they could get to it faster than my lbs who had a week wait). Another good place for prices/shipping is Thorusa. The worst part of my online ordering was no info on when bike was actually shipped. It took two-three weeks to get bike even though it was supposed to be in stock.
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Question for you guys - buying online via retailer, how does the warranty differ. I'm guessing that if you tune up the bike at a authorized Dahon dealer before riding for an online purchased bike that the lifetime warranty is activated. This covers the frame and nothing else, right?

Reading the Dahon warranty section on their webpage, they state that the dealer might offer other guarantees. My main concern is dented rims, bent spokes, blown tires - does anybody cover this? The SpeedPro and JetStream XP looks like they have very similar tires, and I'm afraid that I might run into some problems. Oboeguy, did you get any additional warranty features from Toga?

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Old 07-04-05, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by wangta01
Question for you guys - buying online via retailer, how does the warranty differ. I'm guessing that if you tune up the bike at a authorized Dahon dealer before riding for an online purchased bike that the lifetime warranty is activated. This covers the frame and nothing else, right?

Reading the Dahon warranty section on their webpage, they state that the dealer might offer other guarantees. My main concern is dented rims, bent spokes, blown tires - does anybody cover this? The SpeedPro and JetStream XP looks like they have very similar tires, and I'm afraid that I might run into some problems. Oboeguy, did you get any additional warranty features from Toga?

Thanks guys
I ordered a 2005 Speed 8 from this ebay guy "downtube1", who ships out of philly. As I recall, I ordered it on Saturday and it came roughly a week later, and he told me when it shipped on the following Monday. The warranty is on the frame only as I understand.
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Old 07-05-05, 09:43 AM
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Dahon Warranty :

Everybody gets a five year warranty from Dahon ... no matter if bought online or at a store. In both cases you have to log in the warranty registration page on the Dahon website and log your bike there.

Difference between Dealer and Online store. The dealer is supposed to make a check up on the bike when it arrives..... and depending on the delaer policy it will throw in a free 30 day checkup....

after that checkup has been performed than you can keep that receipt ( or the original purchase receipt for that matter ) and apply for a lifetime warranty ....

best is if you get your bike from your supplier of choice.... and THAN pay 30-50 bucks for a 30 day tuneup at your retailer/bike shop of choice ( keep the receipt ) and get lifetime warranty that way.
Dahons are setup really good and very little work has to be done, when they arrive new ... but every bike needs a good checkup after 30 days ....

p.s. the top models with rolf wheels need a good truing after those 30 days, make sure the shop took the tires off in order to do that..... if the tires werent removed, he didnt do it......




as for warranty. Dahon is VERY good in dealing with stuff. unbelievable in some cases actually.
Tires, brake pads, cables and stuff like that are of course NOT included... nobody else in the biz is doing that... and it could not be done even if somebody wanted to ....

of course this is from the horse mouth ( I am an online dealer ) there are a few more legitimate online dealers than the Dahon website has listed ....


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Old 07-06-05, 10:26 AM
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Alright guys, its a done deal - placed my order for the Jetstream XP this morning and am expecting it by early next week! Got a pretty good deal from my local dealer I think - free service and tune ups for the life of my bike! Assuming that a tune up costs around $50 a pop, I think the extra I paid for the retail price and tax will be worth it in the long run.

Thanks to everyone who helped me make this decision - oboeguy, ace and others. Much thanks and I'll be sure to upload pics when the bike comes in. I still sometimes question if I should have gone with the SpeedPro but who is to say I can only have one bike???

Anyways, now I can finally get back to work and get some stuff done. No more obsessing over this bike, now the waiting begins.

Thanks again everyone
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Congrats!!! Glad to help. Welcome to the fold. (bwuahahaha I love that one!)

I know what you mean about the waiting... drove me totally nuts. Don't be too eager on that first time out -- take time to get used to your new ride.
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Thanks man, I'm pretty excited but can wait for the bike to come in. I'm actually more relieved after buying it from Toga - same place as you oboeguy. There is some comfort that they will build everything and have it all ready to go by the time i get my grubby hands on it.

regarding the pedals, I think the XP comes with MKS Promenade, QRs, are these good pedals or should i consider replacing? Also, I'm thinking of buying the Ergo bar handles (the same that come on the SPeedPro), anybody have any opinions on this?

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If those are the funky removable pedals I have, I say get some disposable SPDs and halfway decent MTB shoes from Performance or Nashbar if you're into clipless. The removable pedals are a cool concept, but they are still pedals. Or perhaps you'd like to put those Powergrip straps on there instead?

Regarding the Cane Creek bar ends: I have mixed feelings. While I'm riding, I'm glad they're there for the variety in hand positions they offer. However, when folded they get in the way of the bag covering the bike, and, if I didn't have them, that bleeping taxi door might not have knocked me down (door clipped the bar end, go figure!). If you plan to ride distances, I say go for it (e.g. your trips to NJ) so your hands don't get numb.

Edit: clarification
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What no-one has mentioned is the Speed Pro and the Speed TR have the dual drive system which is wonderful!
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Yes, DualDrive is, "da bomb". My hub has gone a little out of adjustment a couple of times, but once you figure out how to twiddle the adjustment knob, it's all good!
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This is what I heard, I'm actually contemplating incorporating the dual drive onto the Jetsream XP. Anyone heard of anyone doing this?

Of course I haven't even got my bike yet, so I'm going to wait and see if I need it.
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