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Old 08-09-17, 03:01 PM   #1
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Bike Friday Value Used and Custom Sizing

Found a BF. Ad shows a early 2000 1.5 NWT 9.
(Not sure what 1.5 or 9 stands for)

Two point five hour drive thru worst traffic in the world to see this in person...worth it?

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  1. I assume it's been roughly treated and will need alot of parts replaced, how easy and expensive is it for individual to get replacement parts? (no dealers here)
  2. I realize BF are all custom sized...how can I be sure it is strong enough for my fat butt and not made for under 100-pound women.? I will measure the top-tube. The seat tube looks kind'a short, like 1/3 the length of the top tube.

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Old 08-09-17, 03:27 PM   #2
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Found a BF for $200. Ad shows a 1.5 NWT 9.
(Not sure what 1.5 or 9 stands for)

Looks like the frame's been spray painted. ( I guess not ununusal, since it's almost 20 years old). Two point five hour drive thru worst traffic in the world to see this in person...worth it?

Questions:
  1. I assume it's been roughly treated and will need alot of parts replaced, how easy and expensive is it for individual to get replacement parts? (no dealers here)
  2. I realize BF are all custom sized...how can I be sure it is strong enough for my fat butt and not made for under 100-pound women.? I will measure the top-tube. The seat tube looks kind'a short, like 1/3 the length of the top tube.
just go get it. if it's too small for you, i'll buy it from you (given that it isn't completely destroyed). trying to get my mom to ride.
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Old 08-09-17, 03:36 PM   #3
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The seat tube doesn't make a big difference, as long as it isn't too long. I have my seat within 1cm of the top of the tube on my Pocket Rocket.

I think Bike Friday used both 27.0 and 27.2 seat posts, but you should be able to find one long enough.

I think there are a couple of top tube lengths, so super-short may be an issue, but you'll just have to try it.

Are you getting a goose neck stem? That may be the most difficult part to re-size. Bike Friday may help.

Most parts like headsets are available, but Bike Friday does use some less common parts like 1 1/4" steer tubes.

Frame strength should be fine, unless you're > 300 lbs????
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Hey, I drove from Wisconsin to Kansas to get my Bike Friday Tikit, as the seller wasn't interested in shipping. Tikit is no longer in production, so it turned out well for me.

Spray painted frame.....hmmmm. Can't think of too many good reasons to spray paint a BF. Very worn original finish, didn't like the color, camouflage for the urban environment, or maybe to disguise a stolen bike? While it is possible to get a decent rattle-can finish, it takes a lot of prep work, multiple coats, sanding, clear coat on top...most folks don't have the patience. And on a folder, lots more nooks and crannies to deal with.

While $200 for a Bike Friday of any type seems like a good deal, my radar's up on this one. A few pointed questions about how and where they originally purchased it, and how they used it, are in order. You don't want to buy into problems. A stolen bike or a really worn bike that needs a lot of parts and TLC are distinct possibilities.
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Old 08-09-17, 03:56 PM   #5
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I think there are a couple of top tube lengths, so super-short may be an issue, but you'll just have to try it.

Are you getting a goose neck stem?
I used a photo digiziter app, to measure the top tube length...I got 62 cm. (For comparasion, my Dahon Boardwalk is 60 cm, which fit me very very good.) Pretty close.

No goose neck on this one...but I really like the style of the goose.
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I used a photo digiziter app, to measure the top tube length...I got 62 cm. (For comparasion, my Dahon Boardwalk is 60 cm, which fit me very very good.) Pretty close.

No goose neck on this one...but I really like the style of the goose.
That sounds long.

The mono-tube length on my Pocket Rocket which I believe is the large size is about 21" (53.3 cm) C-C, and seatpost to bars is about 25 1/2" (64.8cm).

The seller should be able to give you some measurements.
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That sounds long.

The mono-tube length on my Pocket Rocket which I believe is the large size is about 21" (53.3 cm) C-C, and seatpost to bars is about 25 1/2" (64.8cm).

The seller should be able to give you some measurements.
The photo was taken from an angle. I think that could have messed up the digitization.

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Ask the seller for the serial number. BF likely can send you the details of the bike, frame size, etc.
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What if the hinges are squeeky? Should I walk away?
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What if the hinges are squeeky? Should I walk away?
are you having a giggle?
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Look for rust. Especially at the hinge pin, inside seat tube and head tube (pull the stem with the qr). Don't worry about anything else if the frame is good. Everything else is replaceable. FWIW I sent my used purchased bike to BF and for $500 they did a full overhaul and beautiful powder recoat. So If you get a great frame for $200, you are golden. You can replace the other parts as they fail.
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Bad news!

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The mono-tube length on my Pocket Rocket which I believe is the large size is about 21" (53.3 cm) C-C, and seatpost to bars is about 25 1/2" (64.8cm).
I took the arduous journey to see the bike in person. It looks very small. It appears to be customized for a short person to be an upright riding style. Seller says the original owner is 5'4". I measured the top tube: 51 cm. (Compare to 60cm on my Dahon). 51 seems extremely small for folding bike. The handlebar sweeps back. Riding posture is like Dutch style. I wanted a bike to convert to drop bar for century rides and touring, which I feel should have much longer top tube. So I walked away.

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Look for rust. Especially at the hinge pin, inside seat tube and head tube (pull the stem with the qr). Don't worry about anything else if the frame is good. Everything else is replaceable.
The bike needs complete overhaul for serious touring or long distance use; it's almost 20 years old, and who knows if it ever had its bearing serviced. The wheel spins a tad rough. Brakes feel rough too. There's also a big rust spot on the top tube. It has other rust spots here and there typical of bike that age, but I didn't look carefully because by that time, I had already decided to walk away because of the frame size.

In retrospect, I thought about buying it for my sister who is 5'4" as a park cruiser...but she's not a bike enthusiast; I doubt she would appreciate a custom bicycle of this caliber...and I'm really not in the mood for a complete overhaul.

P.s. The bike on Houston CL if anyone is interested.

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Bike Friday more has representatives, than typical dealers*, because Bike Fridays production is JIT.. in Eugene OR.

the bike frame is made to customer size needs, the components fitted to the menu that the customer selected.

*Who receive bikes from distribution warehouses, that are stocked from containers, taken off ships.

(I now own 2, ,1st NOS, from company (BTO customer did not accept the Color)

2nd one used, but in fine condition.. A Season (IGH) Tikit.



FWIW At my bike shop job, I put a older NWT back together a customer brought in after getting a fresh powder coat job.


by the way Dahon only makes one 'size' Brompton , likewise,a 60 top tube...
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Sounds like the bike I have, lol. I'm 5'4 +" and I have Nitto all rounder swept back bars (but mine are mounted low like drops almost, I just have really short arms). Wonder if Smallwheeler wants it for his Mom? Sounds perfect with some tic.
But no - it will never fit you. My 6 foot son tried to ride my BF just to see what it was like - hahahahaha. Knees kept hitting the stem post and bars and his chin =).
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