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Old 10-21-17, 02:52 AM   #26
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I have these in 20X1.75.

Mostly wanted something with a bit of tread for better wet grip.

The stock kendas (406X40MM 65PSI) also rode nicely, but wet grip was a major issue.

Schwalbe big apples would be the most cushy, but they won't fit under my fenders, and would probably not fit in between the chainstays (50mm width), on my bike.
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I have/had the DTH 20x1.50. the profile is a bit squarish so a bit wider than a tire of the same width with an oval profile. Noisier on asphalt than my current Marathon Supremes 42-406. BA or DTH, 500grams is quite a bit to swallow.

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I have these in 20X1.75.

Mostly wanted something with a bit of tread for better wet grip.

The stock kendas (406X40MM 65PSI) also rode nicely, but wet grip was a major issue.

Schwalbe big apples would be the most cushy, but they won't fit under my fenders, and would probably not fit in between the chainstays (50mm width), on my bike.
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ah, yes, the emoji, the refuge of those with no convincing argument. such clever men...

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Somebody is working hard to be kicked out of one more thread..
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His hate of all things liked, all things American, and all things that differ from his opinion knows no bounds. Constant veiled insults,..he's quite the charmer.
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as if that has anything to do with the issue at hand, which is your assertion that BA 'works best'. when prompted to say why, you go into this nationalist charade.

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Big Apples provide a plush ride, are quite durable, allow for lower pressure, which allows for a bit more cushioning, and the pricing is decent (depending on location around the world), so purchasing a set shouldn't break the bank.
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Stop the back and forth sniping. Stay on topic or leave the thread.
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Thanks for replies.. my mini cooper is at a bike shop and the owner says the Marathon Plus 20x 1.75 or the Panaracer Parsela same size will work with my bike. I am pretty sure I'm going with Marathon Plus after reading reviews. The Schwalbe Big Apple sound good too and are a bit wider ... I mentioned them to him though he hadn't checked them out.

btw the wider cushy seat and thudbuster have made a great improvement on the bike for me.. I've had 2 herniated lumbar discs (L4 & L5S1) .. had surgery on them both.. both failed so have pretty much just trying to make my ride as comfortable as possible with a folding bike. In retrospect not sure I should have gotten a folder tho I like it for short bursts around my hood and it's easy to store and a slick little ride.
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Old 10-23-17, 07:39 PM   #38
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Sorry about the back issue. The seat and thudbuster should make huge improvments so those tires should be fine. If the guy didn't know about Big Apples, one strike against him though ; ).
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I am pretty sure I'm going with Marathon Plus after reading reviews.
I may have missed this among all the... er... discussion, but the Marathon Plus is virtually (maybe even literally) flat-free. That's worth a little sacrifice in comfort, if there *is* a sacrifice, IMO. I've got thousands of commuting miles on these tires with no flats.

Don't knock the folder. Set up properly, it's not just for tooling around the neighborhood. I've done centuries on mine, with no more exertion or discomfort than on a full-sized bike... and I'm an old guy!
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EDIT: Sorry... just re-read your post and saw the thing about the back. I can sympathize, as I have a couple ruptured lumbar discs which fortunately have given me minimal problems. I have found that a more "leaning-forward" position on the bike is better for my back. Hope you heal up.

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Marathon Plus flat-free for me as well, as well as Big Apple 2.0.
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Old 10-24-17, 08:51 PM   #41
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I tried a Plus on my Birdy rear wheel, hated it. It squirmed badly while cornering unless pumped to concrete, plus I got several punctures, glass slivers that got in at the side where the blue layer tapers. Probably while cornering.
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Old 10-24-17, 09:50 PM   #42
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I really like putting Kenda Krads (20" x 1.95" or 20" x 2.125") and/or Maxxis Holly Roller (20"x 1.75" and/or 20" x 2.2") as alternatives to much smaller Kenda Kwest tires on my Visc D18.

Both small and wide tires work well. The Wider ones are more BMX type tires and I like them in part for using the bikes on dirt roads and country gravel. The narrower Kwests are also nice and they are lighter, but generally if space and weight is not an issue Big Tires are nice.

I do find the biggest I can fit using Fenders are 1.95" Krad. Arguably a 1.75" with Fenders is an easier fit.

Big Apples are also nice for Urban riding but the "block" style on the Krad and Holly Roller gives great paved and dirt performance which I like.
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I have used Holy Rollers for a while; I found them VERY unreliable. Every single one had a casing failure, the bead tore out. I now use Tioga Powerblocks on the rear and Intense Micro Knobbies on the front.
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I have used Holy Rollers for a while; I found them VERY unreliable. Every single one had a casing failure, the bead tore out. I now use Tioga Powerblocks on the rear and Intense Micro Knobbies on the front.
Interesting that the BMX crowd loves Holy Rollers. I have the KRad on my Visc here.
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Interesting that the BMX crowd loves Holy Rollers. I have the KRad on my Visc here.
Nice bike! Looks like the Krad is a loose copy of the Holy Roller tread.

I don't know if it was only my 451 tyres that were the problem. I was very careful never to exceed the casing pressure spec. But after a good while, failure. I was only using them on the back, with the Intense Micro Knobby on the front which is now many years old and still going just fine. In that same time, numerous rear ones were used. So far the Tioga is good.

Maybe the BMX one being different geometry would make them tougher, and the BMX crowd don't put the same sort of mileage on them, I suppose.
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I wasn't aware of Holy Roller in a 451. I have a 451 (Mu SL11) in my shop but I've been mostly focused on 406 so far. You are right that tire selection seems a lot less in 451 (as well as 349 and 305).

I saw some sidewalls go kaput on some Marathon Supremes this year too, so seems a general issue at times. For distance I do think the axiom of narrower = faster holds. Probably a 1.75" tire is the best. 1.95" in the K-Rads above but you can get a 1.75" Holy Roller.
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Thank you for all the informative replies. I did go with Marathon Plus tires so so will see how that works out. I'll get the bike back later this week most likely and see how the new tires work out! Will keep other suggestions in mind just in case these do not work as I hope for me!
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