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Old 11-26-17, 06:02 PM   #1
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Random Dahon Questions: Cali vs. III, sizing, and touring?

What are the differences between the California and the Classic III?
They seem so similar to me, though I've never seen a III in person.

EDIT: I just had a realization
that maybe the III stands for the 3-speed hub?

How are vintage Dahons sized?
I have what I assume is a California.
It fits me nicely, and it's super fun.
I see one on CL that the owner says is too small for him,
but we're the same height.
Are vintage Dahons all the same size?
They sure look it in photos.

Has anyone heard of someone touring on a vintage Dahon?
Has anyone done it themselves?
I'm mostly curious about frame integrity,
because I assume most people would advise against
touring on a vtg. Dahon for other considerations.

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Old 11-26-17, 06:58 PM   #2
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they are around and holding up quite well considering 30 plus years ....
new ones are much improved especially for touring and longer rides
but noting wrong with keeping a classic and have pride in restoring it and using it

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Old 11-27-17, 05:34 AM   #3
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I have vintage Classic III. It rides fine under most conditions. I am a big guy 6'-2" 225# so find it a bit on the flexy side. There have been many improvements over the years in folders, some are better than others. IIRC the California is the same frame as the Classic III, and they only came in one size.

I wouldn't tour on mine, but that is me. I only use mine for rides under 10 miles, any longer than that and I want something a bit more sturdy.

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Old 11-27-17, 11:12 AM   #4
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Thanks for the replies!

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new ones are much improved especially for touring and longer rides
My current dream bike is actually a Pocket Llama,
but I'm new to touring and kind of new to folders.
I've had one for a couple years and like it,
but it's only gotten very specific use, like visiting NYC.
For now, I'm pinching pennies and using what I can.
I'm also collecting a small fleet of vintage folders
for visiting friends to borrow.

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IIRC the California is the same frame as the Classic III, and they only came in one size.
Nice, thanks for the info!

I noticed you have a Giant Excursion listed in your mini profile.
There happens to be one listed in my area that I've been considering,
so it's quite the coincidence that you might have double the expertise that I need.
I'm 6'2"-3", depending on what doctor measures me.
The Excursion listed is 60cm, which is what I ride on a road bike.
But, I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking at with the Excursion,
and I can't find much info on the web.

What size do you ride?
Does it fit like a road frame or a mountain frame?
It looks like it takes wide tires...?
I'm inclined to pick it up, but it's far enough away that
I feel the need to decipher some things before checking it out.
60cm is on the money for me, but the stem looks tiny for a 60cm road bike,
but maybe it's set up differently.

Any info would be much appreciated,
plus you get to show off another bike, if you want

EDIT:
Is the rack on your Classic III original,
or is that a newer one?
I've seen ones like that somewhere,
so it would be cool if they fit the older bikes.

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I noticed you have a Giant Excursion listed in your mini profile.
There happens to be one listed in my area that I've been considering,
so it's quite the coincidence that you might have double the expertise that I need.
I'm 6'2"-3", depending on what doctor measures me.
The Excursion listed is 60cm, which is what I ride on a road bike.
But, I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking at with the Excursion,
and I can't find much info on the web.

What size do you ride?
Does it fit like a road frame or a mountain frame?
It looks like it takes wide tires...?
I'm inclined to pick it up, but it's far enough away that
I feel the need to decipher some things before checking it out.
60cm is on the money for me, but the stem looks tiny for a 60cm road bike,
but maybe it's set up differently.

Any info would be much appreciated,
plus you get to show off another bike, if you want
I will have to check mine for size, but I am pretty sure they are both 60cm. The Giant Excursion was sold as a City Bike aka hybrid/trekking bike. With the fenders I doubt you can get more than 35mm tires in there, possibly a 38. I am an old school rider and like to be stretched out a bit on the bike with the saddle behind the crank center point. I converted my Excursion to drop bars and have had a bit of trouble getting the fit just right. However with the stock flat bars it was just fine.

Here is a picture of mine as currently set up. I actually have two of these, one belonged to my brother. He converted his to drops too, but I plan to switch it back to flats or possibly butterfly bars.

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I have vintage Classic III. It rides fine under most conditions. I am a big guy 6'-2" 225# so find it a bit on the flexy side.
I improved the ride considerably on mine by tightening up the frame hinge lock and taking the flex out of the steering riser hinge with a rubber gasket (shower drain, trimmed a bit.) When I first got the bike, about 10 yrs ago, people here that had one or more Classics seemed to agree that you just had to live with some frame and steering wobble. I disagree - although it's not a touring bike. New tires help too.
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In my opinion if you are getting an early Dahon you are far better off searching for the later, updated version that does away completely with the steering support/riser. The bike looks and is basically the same but is much improved thanks to the better folding mechanism for the steering.
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Old 12-09-17, 12:10 AM   #8
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Here is a picture of mine as currently set up.
Nice, I actually saw a photo of yours when initially researching the bike.
The one I had an eye on was sold before I could pounce.
I thought it had sold once, then the ad was re-posted, but someone got there first.
I wish I had money to scoop up all the craigslist deals that I find
without needing to debate about possible sizing, condition, value, scheduling, etc.
My craigslist scouting and luck is pretty good, but certain things get in the way,
and it sucks to be jumping into a category that I have little experience with
(Road bikes are an easy check, check, check, but anything "less" is new territory for me).
That said, I found something today that I'll probably be happier with than the Giant!

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I disagree - although it's not a touring bike. New tires help too.
Thanks for the tip!
I actually don't experience wobble at all.
I'm 6'3" and let's just say skinny
(I'm trying to bulk up, unsuccessfully.
I just can't give up the miles.)
Maybe I do wobble and just haven't noticed or cared.

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The bike looks and is basically the same but is much improved thanks to the better folding mechanism for the steering.
Do you mean the diagonal bit that extends down from the bars?
That's interesting, and thanks for the heads-up.
I've seen those and assumed they'd be worse, due to less support.
Now that you mention it, I don't see those on modern folders, so maybe I should have guessed

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but noting wrong with keeping a classic and have pride in restoring it and using it
That said, after checking your site,
I'm really debating picking up a newer one to replace my vintage one's usage.
The entry-level ones aren't as pricey as I thought.
I think I should stick it out and save for something more touring-capable, though.
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