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Old 11-30-17, 06:52 PM   #1
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Does Dahon have electric folding bike?

I own Dahon non-electric folding bikes and I love them very much. Last week,I visited a Dahon dealer in my town and the owner told me they do not have electric folding bike in stock and won't stock in following months. I Googled and found there are some pictures and 2 electric models( which I am not interested). I know Tern has a Vectron and Brompton now has an electric version. Does Dahon have a counterpart product to compete with them? The E-Curl??
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Old 11-30-17, 08:57 PM   #2
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Old 11-30-17, 10:34 PM   #3
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The electric Brommie has already been released in the UK, but won't be available in the US until next year if memory serves.

Dahon used to have a model called the Ikon Electric, but I'm not sure it's available in the US.

This page mentions the Ikon as well as the Currie iZip E3 which uses a Dahon frame as the base. Again, not sure if this is available in the US:

https://electricbikereport.com/foldi...es/#more-14653

Getting back to Brompton, there have been various electric conversions around for about a decade. The nano Brompton is probably the most popular. I'm sure Brompton was none too happy that they were losing a chunk of business by not having a dedicated e-bike in their lineup, but it's also my understanding it took them awhile to work out all the kinks before they introduced their own electric model.
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Old 11-30-17, 11:05 PM   #4
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we want to get this right :-)
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p.s. not saying that the Terns are bad
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Old 12-01-17, 12:36 AM   #5
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You can visit Dahon website and you can find two models - Ciao Ei7 and Ikon ED8. Both with 20 inch wheels, front drive motor and the battery are on the rack. On Dahon EU website you can also find one model called Vigor D9. It adapts the Shimano Mid drive motor. Not sure if it is available in USA.

by the way, Brompton ebike and Tern Vectron are too expensive. I am waiting Dahon to launch some affordable models.
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The Dahon/Ford MoDe prototype/concept bike was announced with great fanfare two years ago but AFAIK never made it to the consumer market.


The e-bike version of the Ciao has been around for several years in various corners of the world market.

https://dahon.com/bikes/ciao-ei7/

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If anyone's interested in reading how Brompton solved the various problems associated with their electric bike development, there is a fascinating review of the electric Brompton vs. the nano Brompton in A to B #117. I downloaded it as a PDF last night for 99p ($1.38 US).

Spoiler alert - the electric Brompton is better at some things and the Nano for others!

http://miniature-railway.com/store/products/a-to-b-117/
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Wheel hub motors , front , will be 10m wide axles.. some folding bikes have 74mm hubs, then the fork must be spread.

that gets you started on a retrofit..








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...front , will be 10m wide axles.. some folding bikes have 74mm hubs...
74mm is a much more convenient front axle width than 10m! I doubt I could fold mine up small enough to fit on the train.
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Dahon has several electric models and most are good with the Dahon normal bikes base. You can find out on their websitesI think Dahon lack of marketing on these bikes.
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Dahon has several electric models and most are good with the Dahon normal bikes base. You can find out on their websitesI think Dahon lack of marketing on these bikes.
NONE in the US
other markets do have some.


But as I said we want to get this right for the US. Quality product for a reasonable pricepoint is our goal.
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Well, if you want a nice Dahon Electric I am working on a mid-drive Mu-N360. I need to work out the next battery arrangement. I've already made an electric Mu P8 with good results. The N360 is ideal as the NuVinci CVT (continuously variable transmission) is really great with E-Bikes.

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Well, if you want a nice Dahon Electric I am working on a mid-drive Mu-N360. I need to work out the next battery arrangement. I've already made an electric Mu P8 with good results. The N360 is ideal as the NuVinci CVT (continuously variable transmission) is really great with E-Bikes.

My shop is Nomadic, Inc in Boulder.

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what is the brand of the mid drive motor and the battery? how much can I get it together? thanks!
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what is the brand of the mid drive motor and the battery? how much can I get it together? thanks!
I am just working on some battery options . Where are you in the world Superzxq? I normally need to do the install but I will look at a kit price. Its an OEM motor I have been using for a few years now. I'm very happy with it. Some fit issues on certain bikes is all.
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Superzxq's profile sez China and it looks like a E-rad Bafang mid drive on your Dahon to me. He can surely buy the parts cheaper in the country where they're made.

A nice looking folding bike you've built,
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Itís not a Dahon, but I have a Tern elink D7i. Iíd post a photo but canít quite figure out how thatís done here successfully.
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what is the brand of the mid drive motor and the battery? how much can I get it together? thanks!
A Bafang mid drive would be what you're looking for: https://www.google.com/search?q=bafa...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Do a Google search where you are, and you'll get location specific results.
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74mm is a much more convenient front axle width than 10m! I doubt I could fold mine up small enough to fit on the train.
Steve needs to start a company , in Asia making them, then..
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Old 12-10-17, 06:43 PM   #19
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It’s not a Dahon, but I have a Tern elink D7i. I’d post a photo but can’t quite figure out how that’s done here successfully.
Tern's quality is a big problem, some of my friends who work in the bicycle industry all told me that they recall bikes each year, the frame fault rate is high and their components are not as good as Dahon. So I would rather to DIY a Dahon as an E-bike.
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