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Old 12-17-17, 10:51 PM
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Seeking recommendations

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New to forum and to folding bikes. I recently bought a used 16 inch Citizen Tokyo bike for $80 in pretty good conditions. I am 5'11 but bike seems a bit small although it's fun to ride. I like the folding concept and ease of storage. I am thinking of upgrading and purchasing a new 20 inch folder and interested in the Citizen Miami or the Euromini Campo. Can anyone recommend either model? The bike would be purely recreational, no commuting. I'll appreciate any feedback.
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Old 12-17-17, 11:27 PM
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Did you read the FAQ?
New to folding bikes, can't choose? Read this FIRST
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Old 12-18-17, 12:18 AM
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The best bike to get is one that fits you, because if it's not your size, the more you ride it, the more uncomfortable you get. Your body instinctively knows this, and after a while, you stop riding completely because you don't want to be uncomfortable any more.

So the first question you should be asking is: Which folder fits my tall size? I'm not clear that another Citizen or a EuroMini will be adjustable enough for your size, it might just be more of the same, even in a different wheel size, so you're really not getting anywhere by buying into one of those.

There are two companies where the owners hang out here - Paul of Origami, and Yan of Downtube - and they both sell directly to the customer. Perhaps they can chime in and recommend a model which works for both your height and your wallet.
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Old 12-18-17, 11:42 AM
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I can't recommend the EuroMini Campo model specifically, however I am a totally unbiased consumer (ie: I have no axe to grind/business-financial interest in my recommendation) with 2 Euro Mini Urbanos.

They have been fantastic and delight my wife and I every time we ride them. Coolest, and most enjoyable bike I've ever owned.

Additionally, what minimal support we've need from them has been just fine, and I'm sure the product quality and support you can expect from Citizen, Downtube, Origami and others will be equally as positive, they all seem to enjoy good reputations. so it then becomes a specifications/style/price/"X" factor decision which only you can make.

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Old 12-18-17, 01:42 PM
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The Euromini Urbano not the Campo model would be my recommendation. It has a far superior specification for only a small upgrade in price and you never know it may be discounted in the January sales.
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Thanks for all your suggestions... would be nice to be able to find a local shop to test the bikes,
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Originally Posted by Flcruzr View Post
Thanks for all your suggestions... would be nice to be able to find a local shop to test the bikes,
A pipe dream....at this price-point. Folders arent well represented in the B&M shops anyway.

EuroMini offers a 30 day return opportunity however.
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I quickly checked on Eurominis and visually and functionally they seem to be identical to Dahons. What is the deal??
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I quickly checked on Eurominis and visually and functionally they seem to be identical to Dahons. What is the deal??
I don't think that is true, folding bikes are just a style of bike that has been common since the sixties with a few minor advances here and there. Dahon seems to take credit for introducing the folding handlebar stem which is common on many folding bikes but other folding bikes use the classic non folding stem or a style more like Brompton secured by a block.

Huge number of companies make folding bikes in China and asia in general, one of the biggest is fuji-ta the world's largest bike manufacturer. Up to 17 million complete bikes sold a year and also a huge oem supplier of frames that are sold to smaller companies inside and outside China for final assembly. Here in Europe we get a lot of bikes assembled outside China so they can avoid EU restrictions on bikes from China. About 1 in 10 bikes sold in the world are complete bikes from fuji-ta but no idea what percentage use a fuji-ta frame but likely very high for aluminium folding bike frames.

Folding Bikes - Tianjin Fuji-ta Bicycle Co.,Ltd.

It's certainly very possible many Dahon bikes or frames are sourced through them. The Dahon chinese factory looks more an assembly plant that a full manufacturing facility and is quite crude compared to fuji-ta. Dahon use other manufacturer's to make their bikes including max.com in Bulgaria.
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Originally Posted by Bonzo Banana View Post
About 1 in 10 bikes sold in the world are complete bikes from fuji-ta but no idea what percentage use a fuji-ta frame but likely very high for aluminium folding bike frames.

Folding Bikes - Tianjin Fuji-ta Bicycle Co.,Ltd.
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[QUOTE=bargainguy;20058980

There are two companies where the owners hang out here - Paul of Origami, and Yan of Downtube - and they both sell directly to the customer. Perhaps they can chime in and recommend a model which works for both your height and your wallet.[/QUOTE]

Although we donít have our bikes in your local bike shop, All Origami bikes come with a two-week test ride to make sure it meets your needs. I think that beats a 10-minute ride at your local shop.
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