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Old 01-29-18, 06:19 PM
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I've no dog in this hunt but Salsa recently did the same thing, started selling through REI.

Unlike Cannondale which has product in every REI location, only 11 stores nationwide were selected to have Salsa product on the sales floor. Everything else is web based or available for order.

Speculation but maybe Brompton has the same sort of arrangement with only select locations having physical product.


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Because I could.

Do you have a problem with that?
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Because I could.

Do you have a problem with that?
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Definitely. Donít you realise, if we take the plot lines of CIS, NCIS or whatever the current US fantasy copshow now is, that you have published a hit list which a terrorist group sponsored by an evil rival bike manufacturer will use to eliminate all Brompton shareholders until they control the company?
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Maybe this will help the small USA dealer network. As more people ride Bromptons more will want to own one. I was in my local Brompton dealer and a customer bought a 6 speed Ti because she had tried her inlaws bike. More Bromptons out there will mean more sales. Also Rei I'm sure is not going to carry all the different options like bags, racks and parts that only fit on Bromptons. Then you have the issue of repair work that most bike repair men couldn't do. I remember the video of the bike shop owner those customer brought in a Brompton to change out a rear flat. He couldn't figure out how to undo the rear wheel. I maybe wrong but if you build it they will come.
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I called my local REI. They have no knowledge of any plan to carry Brompton.
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In light of the USA-market factory fresh sub-$1300 M6L (with trivial to obtain discounts) through REI, there are a lot of overpriced used Bromptons on Ebay now.

A couple years-old (without the 2017 upgrades) lightly used M3L? Now maybe $800~$900?
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Using that website, It shows no Bromptons in any REI listed stores from Sacramento to San Francisco to Los Angeles .. so the program is probably in early stages.
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In light of the USA-market factory fresh sub-$1300 M6L (with trivial to obtain discounts) through REI, there are a lot of overpriced used Bromptons on Ebay now.
I have not thought of that.

A couple years-old (without the 2017 upgrades) lightly used M3L? Now maybe $800~$900?
I'm not sure what the value of a 6 versus 3 speed is in the used market. I get the sense that most folks get the 2 or 3 speed versions. So you're estimate is reasonable.
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Using that website, It shows no Bromptons in any REI listed stores from Sacramento to San Francisco to Los Angeles .. so the program is probably in early stages.
Clearly. Even from the website you can only "preorder" rather than directly buy. So they don't even have the bikes in the warehouse yet but expect to start shipping within the next month.
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When my friend worked at REI and I asked about ordering a bike, he shared they could order any bike from a company they worked with even if not advertised in store or online. If I recall there was an extra $50-75 for shipping because the special order. This was probably 8 years ago.
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I rather pay slightly more and get an exact bike from the factory.

I rather cut out the middlemen.
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But pre ordering offers the Menu of their many parts and color options..

as it is that gives you a lot of their various types. 1,2,3,6 speed, S, M.H.P Bars,, racks mudguards bags saddles seat posts

steel or Ti portions..

Brompton only sells thru dealers* , dont confuse them with Bikes Direct sounds like REI has become one of their dealers..

* SJS Cycles UK wont ship their B parts, to the US, because of Brompton, now, has a dealer network , here.



One person's over priced used bike is another person's 'holds its resale value in todays's market'

watched the restored Motorcycle auction on TV last night , the bidding on the ones from Steve McQueen's estate collection,
resulted in rather high, collector's prices..
The nature of auctions works like that.




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I'm not sure what the value of a 6 versus 3 speed is in the used market. I get the sense that most folks get the 2 or 3 speed versions. So you're estimate is reasonable.
Brompton reduces bike prices in the US
by BRAIN Staff
Published November 7, 2016
NEW YORK CITY (BRAIN) ó Brompton Bicycle has announced immediate retail price reductions for its folding bikes and related accessories, citing efficiency improvements at the brand's new factory and the strength of the U.S. dollar.

The base price for Brompton's 2017 model year bikea has been reduced from $1,250 to $1,199. Brompton's most popular configuration the M6L, a 6-speed bike with fenders, with two colors of paint, now has an MSRP of $1,499, down from an MSRP of $1,691 earlier in 2016. The company also eliminated its $98 custom color surcharge earlier this year.
Source: Brompton reduces bike prices in the US | Bicycle Retailer and Industry News

So the 6-speed is everything but uncommon. Regarding the prices of used Bromptons: They are overpriced when compared to new ones, especially the older models. The main reasons are for one that for an innocent mind a Brompton looks pretty much the same, no matter how old it is and most people do not know about the continuous stream of enhancements that the Brompton has achieved over the years. Second is that there is more demand for used Bromptons than there are offers - it seems that buying a Brompton is something people have thought about properly before actual buying and therefore most tend to keep it once they have one.

Also traditionally Brompton's prices increase each year, fostering a pretty stable price for used bikes.

From experience with the German market (which has traditionally been pretty strong for Brompton) I would assume that this will change: Over the last couple of years Bromptons became increasingly popular over here, leaving the niche of nerdness they used to live in. A side-effect was that with more Bromptons on the streets they became even more popular as more people see them. Some of those people sell them again used relativeliy quickly, so the used market grew, especially with relatively new bikes. And this, after a certain point, leads to lower prices for used bikes. They are still not cheap and still old bikes are massively overpriced, but with relatively recent ones there are chances to grab a good to fair deal now.

Possible that the same happens in the US now, especially with the lowering of the prices for new Bromptons. I may possibly take a while until sellers have realized the new prices.
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My understanding is (1) that the REI Bromptons are limited to the three models listed, (2) that some Brompton parts and accessories will be available from REI, and (3) the three models are exactly the same as the ones from other Brompton dealers. I believe this is a good move for Brompton, REI and Brompton customers.

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Hopefully you're right. We've got an REI not far from us here. If they sell a lot of Brompton bikes maybe it would raise the brand profile and we'll start selling more as well. I don't know though. A lot of our sales are online or telephone orders. I imagine REI will cut into a lot of that.

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Just noticed REI have three Brompton prices listed. M6L = $1525, M6R = $1660 and the H6R = $1989. They make the Tern link D8 @ $750, look like a bargain. It'll be win, win for Brompton with all this exposure.
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Source: Brompton reduces bike prices in the US | Bicycle Retailer and Industry News

So the 6-speed is everything but uncommon. Regarding the prices of used Bromptons: They are overpriced when compared to new ones, especially the older models. The main reasons are for one that for an innocent mind a Brompton looks pretty much the same, no matter how old it is and most people do not know about the continuous stream of enhancements that the Brompton has achieved over the years. Second is that there is more demand for used Bromptons than there are offers - it seems that buying a Brompton is something people have thought about properly before actual buying and therefore most tend to keep it once they have one.

Also traditionally Brompton's prices increase each year, fostering a pretty stable price for used bikes.

From experience with the German market (which has traditionally been pretty strong for Brompton) I would assume that this will change: Over the last couple of years Bromptons became increasingly popular over here, leaving the niche of nerdness they used to live in. A side-effect was that with more Bromptons on the streets they became even more popular as more people see them. Some of those people sell them again used relativeliy quickly, so the used market grew, especially with relatively new bikes. And this, after a certain point, leads to lower prices for used bikes. They are still not cheap and still old bikes are massively overpriced, but with relatively recent ones there are chances to grab a good to fair deal now.

Possible that the same happens in the US now, especially with the lowering of the prices for new Bromptons. I may possibly take a while until sellers have realized the new prices.
Whoopee! My mistake. I generally see 2- and 6-speed versions around. Although I don't think it changes the discussion.
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I rather pay slightly more and get an exact bike from the factory.
Yeah, okay, sure, but I worked through the 'custom Brompton Bike Builder' on both the Brompton USA and NYCE Bikes websites and got a price for an M6L+luggage block, like the sub-$1300 black one available through REI, but with the only custom specification being a different color of paint. On both websites I came up with a quoted price of:

$2010!

So now we're down to everyone's personal definition of 'slightly more'.
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Yeah, okay, sure, but I worked through the 'custom Brompton Bike Builder' on both the Brompton USA and NYCE Bikes websites and got a price for an M6L+luggage block, like the sub-$1300 black one available through REI, but with the only custom specification being a different color of paint. On both websites I came up with a quoted price of:

$2010!

So now we're down to everyone's personal definition of 'slightly more'.
I do not know what exactly you have been doing but I just configured a colorful steel Brompton M6L (in green and berry crush ) with Carrier Block via the bikebuilder on the Bromton.com website (country switched to US) and ended up with:

Total RRP:
$ 1524.01

Which is 0.99$ below what REI is charging for a black one, obviously w/o the REI cashback-scheme. At Nycewheels com they sell the M6L for 1499$ in various colors. What have I done wrong?

Regarding the "sub 1300$" M6L from REI: They sell it for 1525 and say you'll typically get back 10% after the end of the year as a REI member which would then bring you down to 1378$, but with a delay. How would you get lower? At least in Europe you may be able to get a 10% discount during the off-season for stock bikes even with normal shops - is this different in the US?
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Just noticed REI have three Brompton prices listed. M6L = $1525, M6R = $1660 and the H6R = $1989. They make the Tern link D8 @ $750, look like a bargain. It'll be win, win for Brompton with all this exposure.
Well, the M6L is obviously double of what the Tern D8 is. If the Tern IS a bargain in comparison depends from your needs and from what you expect from your bike. It may be or not. I you need the smallest fold or want custom colors or like the luggage system or want a steel bike or like a classic or desire dynamo lights or high resale value then the Tern is probably not for you. If you want a reasonably cheap bike with derailleur that is foldable and brings you around town then it may be. The Brompton is not cheap, has never been and will probably never be. I does not even want to. It is a premium product and complaining about that makes as much sense as to complain that a BMW is more expensive than a Ford. The Ford will bring you from A to B as well and reliable as a BMW in many if not most cases (and maybe sometimes even better), still there are a lot of people buying BMWs, Jaguars, Mercedeses or Rolls Royce. Or Minis for that matter. It is a different product. There is no obligation to buy one if you think it is too expensive or does not fit your needs. And as long as the same people that spend thousands of Dollars extra for shiny alloy wheels for their cars complain about a couple of hundred dollars for a bike something seems to be wrong in the matrix.
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Regarding the "sub 1300$" M6L from REI: They sell it for 1525 and say you'll typically get back 10% after the end of the year as a REI member which would then bring you down to 1378$, but with a delay. How would you get lower? At least in Europe you may be able to get a 10% discount during the off-season for stock bikes even with normal shops - is this different in the US?
If you buy it using an REI/US Bank credit card then you get an additional 5% refund bringing the net price down to just under $1300.
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It is a premium product and complaining about that makes as much sense as to complain that a BMW is more expensive than a Ford.
Not sure I was complaining, but being tall I'd have to pay a premium to ride a Brompton. I've thought about buying one for multi-modal transport. The Tern D8 is nearly there, it's not bad for a tall person, but being a centre fold it wouldn't be as compact. A friend gave me a cheap folding bike, but it'd be equivalent to your Ford car analogy, lots of them made, probably by Fuji-ta. The Tern is more upmarket, look at the components, and that's where Brompton will struggle in the future because even the cheapies are coming out with some pretty stunning gear, just look through Alibaba.
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You can convert a Brompton so it accommodates taller cyclists better. Also, so far the Brompton fold is pretty much unequalled, and the support equally so.

Having just looked at a Tern, while it is a folding bike, when folded it looks still pretty big and not really one you'd take with you everywhere, as you can the Brompton. It looks like, as with so many, it is in the occasional folder class.
My bike friday pakit goes everywhere with me. I don't even own a bike lock anymore (gave it to my son). The bike and I have been to movie theaters, the dentist and doctor, Costco, Trader Joe, various retail stores, multiple coffee shops and cafes, and in Uber cars and on public transit. I even took it to a rather nice restaurant (entrees start at $30) and they kindly put it in their locked office while I dined. Definitely not in the occasional folder class. Birdy folds very well, too. And eventually there will be the Helix (someday, lol).
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My bike friday pakit goes everywhere with me. I don't even own a bike lock anymore (gave it to my son). The bike and I have been to movie theaters, the dentist and doctor, Costco, Trader Joe, various retail stores, multiple coffee shops and cafes, and in Uber cars and on public transit. I even took it to a rather nice restaurant (entrees start at $30) and they kindly put it in their locked office while I dined. Definitely not in the occasional folder class. Birdy folds very well, too. And eventually there will be the Helix (someday, lol).
I offer my personal guarantee that you'll get your Helix.
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