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Old 02-07-18, 03:23 PM   #51
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Yeah, okay, sure, but I worked through the 'custom Brompton Bike Builder' on both the Brompton USA and NYCE Bikes websites and got a price for an M6L+luggage block, like the sub-$1300 black one available through REI, but with the only custom specification being a different color of paint. On both websites I came up with a quoted price of:

$2010!

So now we're down to everyone's personal definition of 'slightly more'.
I do not know what exactly you have been doing but I just configured a colorful steel Brompton M6L (in green and berry crush ) with Carrier Block via the bikebuilder on the Bromton.com website (country switched to US) and ended up with:

Total RRP:
$ 1524.01

Which is 0.99$ below what REI is charging for a black one, obviously w/o the REI cashback-scheme. At Nycewheels com they sell the M6L for 1499$ in various colors. What have I done wrong?

Regarding the "sub 1300$" M6L from REI: They sell it for 1525 and say you'll typically get back 10% after the end of the year as a REI member which would then bring you down to 1378$, but with a delay. How would you get lower? At least in Europe you may be able to get a 10% discount during the off-season for stock bikes even with normal shops - is this different in the US?
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Old 02-07-18, 03:40 PM   #52
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Just noticed REI have three Brompton prices listed. M6L = $1525, M6R = $1660 and the H6R = $1989. They make the Tern link D8 @ $750, look like a bargain. It'll be win, win for Brompton with all this exposure.
Well, the M6L is obviously double of what the Tern D8 is. If the Tern IS a bargain in comparison depends from your needs and from what you expect from your bike. It may be or not. I you need the smallest fold or want custom colors or like the luggage system or want a steel bike or like a classic or desire dynamo lights or high resale value then the Tern is probably not for you. If you want a reasonably cheap bike with derailleur that is foldable and brings you around town then it may be. The Brompton is not cheap, has never been and will probably never be. I does not even want to. It is a premium product and complaining about that makes as much sense as to complain that a BMW is more expensive than a Ford. The Ford will bring you from A to B as well and reliable as a BMW in many if not most cases (and maybe sometimes even better), still there are a lot of people buying BMWs, Jaguars, Mercedeses or Rolls Royce. Or Minis for that matter. It is a different product. There is no obligation to buy one if you think it is too expensive or does not fit your needs. And as long as the same people that spend thousands of Dollars extra for shiny alloy wheels for their cars complain about a couple of hundred dollars for a bike something seems to be wrong in the matrix.
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Old 02-07-18, 04:09 PM   #53
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Regarding the "sub 1300$" M6L from REI: They sell it for 1525 and say you'll typically get back 10% after the end of the year as a REI member which would then bring you down to 1378$, but with a delay. How would you get lower? At least in Europe you may be able to get a 10% discount during the off-season for stock bikes even with normal shops - is this different in the US?
If you buy it using an REI/US Bank credit card then you get an additional 5% refund bringing the net price down to just under $1300.
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It is a premium product and complaining about that makes as much sense as to complain that a BMW is more expensive than a Ford.
Not sure I was complaining, but being tall I'd have to pay a premium to ride a Brompton. I've thought about buying one for multi-modal transport. The Tern D8 is nearly there, it's not bad for a tall person, but being a centre fold it wouldn't be as compact. A friend gave me a cheap folding bike, but it'd be equivalent to your Ford car analogy, lots of them made, probably by Fuji-ta. The Tern is more upmarket, look at the components, and that's where Brompton will struggle in the future because even the cheapies are coming out with some pretty stunning gear, just look through Alibaba.
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You can convert a Brompton so it accommodates taller cyclists better. Also, so far the Brompton fold is pretty much unequalled, and the support equally so.

Having just looked at a Tern, while it is a folding bike, when folded it looks still pretty big and not really one you'd take with you everywhere, as you can the Brompton. It looks like, as with so many, it is in the occasional folder class.

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Old 02-10-18, 09:21 PM   #56
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You can convert a Brompton so it accommodates taller cyclists better. Also, so far the Brompton fold is pretty much unequalled, and the support equally so.

Having just looked at a Tern, while it is a folding bike, when folded it looks still pretty big and not really one you'd take with you everywhere, as you can the Brompton. It looks like, as with so many, it is in the occasional folder class.
My bike friday pakit goes everywhere with me. I don't even own a bike lock anymore (gave it to my son). The bike and I have been to movie theaters, the dentist and doctor, Costco, Trader Joe, various retail stores, multiple coffee shops and cafes, and in Uber cars and on public transit. I even took it to a rather nice restaurant (entrees start at $30) and they kindly put it in their locked office while I dined. Definitely not in the occasional folder class. Birdy folds very well, too. And eventually there will be the Helix (someday, lol).
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My bike friday pakit goes everywhere with me. I don't even own a bike lock anymore (gave it to my son). The bike and I have been to movie theaters, the dentist and doctor, Costco, Trader Joe, various retail stores, multiple coffee shops and cafes, and in Uber cars and on public transit. I even took it to a rather nice restaurant (entrees start at $30) and they kindly put it in their locked office while I dined. Definitely not in the occasional folder class. Birdy folds very well, too. And eventually there will be the Helix (someday, lol).
I offer my personal guarantee that you'll get your Helix.
And if the worst happens (factory stuck by meteor), then
I'll post you a picture of a refund.
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I offer my personal guarantee that you'll get your Helix.
And if the worst happens (factory stuck by meteor), then
I'll post you a picture of a refund.
I'm not a backer of the helix. I just mentioned it as an example of a great folding design. I have been reading the thread religiously, though, it's very entertaining.
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The offer still stands.
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