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Old 02-11-18, 10:15 AM
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I offer my personal guarantee that you'll get your Helix.
And if the worst happens (factory stuck by meteor), then
I'll post you a picture of a refund.
I'm not a backer of the helix. I just mentioned it as an example of a great folding design. I have been reading the thread religiously, though, it's very entertaining.
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Old 02-11-18, 05:58 PM
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The offer still stands.
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Old 02-27-18, 12:19 PM
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My bike friday pakit goes everywhere with me. I don't even own a bike lock anymore (gave it to my son). The bike and I have been to movie theaters, the dentist and doctor, Costco, Trader Joe, various retail stores, multiple coffee shops and cafes, and in Uber cars and on public transit. I even took it to a rather nice restaurant (entrees start at $30) and they kindly put it in their locked office while I dined. Definitely not in the occasional folder class. Birdy folds very well, too. And eventually there will be the Helix (someday, lol).


Curious as to why you chose the Pakit over a Brompton? Faced with the same dilemma here... Thanks in advance.
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Old 02-27-18, 12:36 PM
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Curious as to why you chose the Pakit over a Brompton? Faced with the same dilemma here... Thanks in advance.
It is not that I didn't want a brompton, I did. Super cute! But - bromptons have limited fit adjustments and the frame length is one size. Dealers could not get it to fit me well, using any of their handlebar or seatpost options. There were after-market products which MIGHT have worked, but no way I'm paying 2 grand for a bike that doesn't fit from the start and taking a chance on paying more later on to find out it still didn't fit me. The dealer used a device to move the seat forward and that messed up my knee position. He rotated the various bars back and that impacted steering.
The pakiT, otoh, has multiple frame sizes and can be properly fit (not just with tweaks that may negatively impact the geometry) to anyone. I sent my personal and current bike dimensions and got a dialed-in bike.
I gave up a bit of compact folding for proper fit and ride quality and also got a bike with 8 gears that weighed a good 7+ pounds less than the brompton with 6 gears.
If the brompton had fit me well, I would have purchased a 2 speed titanium model with S bars as I do carry my bike around a lot. I would have made up for the lack of gearing by putting a motor on it at some point. I still think they are absolutely adorable and am looking for a used single speed to fix up for my millennial son who doesn't own a car. He is tall and it would fit him fine and give him an option for riding to movies and the pubs instead of locking up his road bike.

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Old 02-27-18, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by linberl View Post
It is not that I didn't want a brompton, I did. Super cute! But - bromptons have limited fit adjustments and the frame length is one size. Dealers could not get it to fit me well, using any of their handlebar options. There were after-market products which MIGHT have worked, but no way I'm paying 2 grand for a bike that doesn't fit from the start and taking a chance on paying more later on to find out it still didn't fit me.
The pakiT, otoh, has multiple frame sizes and can be properly fit (not just with tweaks that may negatively impact the geometry) to anyone. I sent my personal and current bike dimensions and got a dialed-in bike.
I gave up a bit of compact folding for proper fit and ride quality and also got a bike with 8 gears that weighed a good 7+ pounds less than the brompton with 6 gears.
If the brompton had fit me well, I would have purchased a 2 speed titanium model with S bars as I do carry my bike around a lot. I would have made up for the lack of gearing by putting a motor on it at some point. I still think they are absolutely adorable and am looking for a used single speed to fix up for my millennial son who doesn't own a car. He is tall and it would fit him fine and give him an option for riding to movies and the pubs instead of locking up his road bike.


Thanks for the detailed info! I'll check them out... I just really like the compact fold of the Brompton.
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Thanks for the detailed info! I'll check them out... I just really like the compact fold of the Brompton.
It's all about what is a priority for you. I would suggest checking out the Birdy if fold matters a lot to you. Nearly as compact as the Brompton, but a much better ride imo.
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Old 02-27-18, 01:06 PM
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I have both; Brompton(two of them) and a pakiT.
Thing I don't like about the Bromptons: price, weight, non standard parts(der., hub, caliper, etc.).
Some things I like about the Brompton: small fold, front luggage system, lots of aftermarket option/support(NOV, Bikegang, H & H, etc.), parts backwards compatibility, pretty rugged. Over a dozen flights, light off roading with slick tires:
Things I don't like with the pakiT: folded size, folding pattern(need to take bar mast, seatpost & wheel off for smallest fold).
Some things that I like: price is more reasonable, weight, custom sizing, standard parts(der, hub, caliper, stem, etc.).
Some side by side comparison:
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Originally Posted by 1nterceptor View Post
I have both; Brompton(two of them) and a pakiT.
Thing I don't like about the Bromptons: price, weight, non standard parts(der., hub, caliper, etc.).
Some things I like about the Brompton: small fold, front luggage system, lots of aftermarket option/support(NOV, Bikegang, H & H, etc.), parts backwards compatibility, pretty rugged. Over a dozen flights, light off roading with slick tires:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNuu...6zPoymgKaIoDLA
Things I don't like with the pakiT: folded size, folding pattern(need to take bar mast, seatpost & wheel off for smallest fold).
Some things that I like: price is more reasonable, weight, custom sizing, standard parts(der, hub, caliper, stem, etc.).
Some side by side comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm1R...6zPoymgKaIoDLA


WOW! Very useful. Thanks! Based on my needs, I think the Brompton is best... I need a compact, easy fold since I'll be mostly using to take into coffee shops...
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Old 02-27-18, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Caliwild View Post
WOW! Very useful. Thanks! Based on my needs, I think the Brompton is best... I need a compact, easy fold since I'll be mostly using to take into coffee shops...
FYI, for coffee shops one does not need to remove wheels or seatpost or stemmast on the pakiT. The quick fold can be done in less than 20 seconds and fits under every coffee shop table I have found. But you still might prefer the brompton...
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REI Brommie Customizations

I was trying to get a used Brommie, but it fell through, so I decided to look into purchasing a Brommie from REI. I talked with their bike guy and he said that if the customizations don’t cost more, you can get it, but it will come from the factory and you will have to pay the shipping costs since it is not coming from a REI warehouse. I want the -12% gearing and, which is why I inquired.
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Originally Posted by Roegmann View Post
I want the -12% gearing and, which is why I inquired.
REI Brompton + $20, 44T 130 BCD chainring. Doesn't bode well that REI's 'bike guy' couldn't suggest this.
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Once a year I think, REI sends out a 20% off coupon to members.

Other than that; I don't see the allure of buying a Brompton from
REI insted of an established Brompton dealer.
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Old 03-05-18, 01:09 PM
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The allure is the cost. I have a $1000 REI gift card that I won in a raffle a while ago and I’m a member; so, I will get a dividend back. So, for about $600 I’ll get a brand new Brommie

I will end up spending more or the “Clever Cycles” upgrade to a 9-speed, than the cost of the bike ( by the way, thanks for that advice Berlinonaut). All this is a no brainer. About the only decision I’ll have to make is whether to get the -12% gearing and upgrade to 9sp or go stock and then the upgrade. But, I have several months to worry about it/my purchase date,
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REI is carrying a few Brompton accessories too, including a few Brompton bags (T, C, basket, and the B bag) and their taillight. The REI member 20% off coupon typically comes around this time of the year, so could make for some good discounts if you know exactly what you want.
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Originally Posted by linberl View Post
There's a shop near me that sells cargo bikes and bromptons, he opened about a year ago. Great shop, great guy. The REI (of which I am an original member) is less than half a mile away. This is definitely going to hurt his business. Wouldn't be surprised to see him either dump Brompton or cut his stock to exclude the REI models and similar. I know he wasn't expecting this :-(.
+1

Brompton seems to be always looking for extra sales since they have a massive overhead. They can't keep raising the price and are now forced to find national distributors undercutting their local bike shops. I can see this working against Brompton in the future.
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Old 03-13-18, 05:09 PM
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REI is carrying a few Brompton accessories too, including a few Brompton bags (T, C, basket, and the B bag) and their taillight. The REI member 20% off coupon typically comes around this time of the year, so could make for some good discounts if you know exactly what you want.
Cool. They must have just added them.
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