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Old 02-20-18, 09:53 PM   #26
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I don't have bike at the moment.

I don't want to have scooters or motorbikes. I want to have a bike with pedals to ride normally to work. If it's 30km I'm thinking I will have to go with the bus and then the last Kms by bike commuting. I can't do 60km a day with a bike!!!
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For a pure bicycle Brompton best for multi- modal. For assisted, VeloMini https://electricbikereview.com/velomini/plus/

You are going to have to make compromises.
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Old 02-24-18, 12:48 PM   #28
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Okay I have a model in mind the Dahon Speed P8.

Now it appears to me that there are two versions of this model... One with the a black handpost and other with silver handpost.

So what's the difference?

Also is it possible to recognise the 2008-2009 Speed P8 bikes? I want to know this because during those years Dahon made a recall of all those bikes because of a Handpost failure that could cause fatal accident s.
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Just saw a note about 15 lb Hummingbird. That would be round about 7kg. No hinge that I can see in the frame.
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The price for one of those is £3400!!!!!!!!!

Anyone know the differences between Dahon Speed P8 Handpost ? Some.have the Handpost black and othersthe colour is silver like alluminum silver colour...
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Apropos Honda Cub...

...i came across this beauty while out riding the Altena.






Papa Formigas, ¿você está certo que não quer uma dessas?
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Their is a new Honda Cub out this year with a 125 motor from the Honda Grom/msx!
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Hi all!

I am looking for a folding BIKE and not a motorbike or scooter or something similar.

Please write your views and share your experiences with lightweight folding bikes as I want a bike with pedals.

Thanks.
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Hi all!

I am looking for a folding BIKE and not a motorbike or scooter or something similar.

Please write your views and share your experiences with lightweight folding bikes as I want a bike with pedals.

Thanks.
To me at least this thread is done: You seem to be focussed on buying a cheap folder that in no way is ready for the purpose that you told us you intend to fulfill (and apart from that is not light at all). A cheap Dahon will be ridden to pieces after a very short while with the distances that you want to cover, let alone that the bikes that you went for are totally unsuitable for hilly terrain or the distances in question. You do not want to hear any better alternatives that may be fit for purpose but either cost more or do not fold or are not a bike but a moped. There is simply no good advice left anyone could give you. You are a teacher - you should know how this learning-thing works...

Regarding Dahon D3 with black or silver stem riser: Nobody know the difference. Probably there is none but maybe there is. Dahon's policy regarding models is totally intransparent and not stringent through different model years or different regions, not even within a single model year and the specifications on the different Dahon- and Dealer webpages differ, are useless and often wrong. The one person who possibly could know - Thor - has recently been kicked out of the forum.
Probably it does not make a difference at all. Plus it does not matter because - as you have been told numerous times - these bikes fit in no way to what you want to do. And within the EU you do not want to buy a Dahon bike anyway as there are no spare parts, no service and no support. Your confusion now is just the beginning of the frustration that you will suffer from in the following years if you buy a Dahon within the EU.
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I agree. This forum presented logical ideas, but it is up to the OP to decide how to spend money. Go buy whatever bike and learn for yourself if you are right or not. You can always sell it, so no big problem.
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Hi guys .. made up my mind and bought an used like new Orbita Flex bike 16" with fat tyres with 8 gears.

The brand is Orbita a famous Portuguese brand, not so known in the US but sells on Amazon that is in the bike business since 1971.

Orbita prouds themselfs to be the amoungst the few bike companies in Europe that decided not to switch to Asia to manufacture bikes.

The bike folds as little as the Curve D3 and weights only 11,5kg.

Its a great pretty lightweight bike and its speed is great!

Some pics attached.

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This bike is cool but it misses the magnets that stick both wheeel together when folded.

I was thinking if i can adapt the Dahon magnets in the frame like the Dahons, or some other kind of method..
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Minivelos get lighter because they don't have to be reinforced for the hinges,
but by still using smaller wheels don't take up as much room , parked, as a big wheel bike..



(Nashbar has one 50% off , now)





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Hi guys .. made up my mind and bought an used like new Orbita Flex bike 16" with fat tyres with 8 gears.

The brand is Orbita a famous Portuguese brand, not so known in the US but sells on Amazon that is in the bike business since 1971.

Orbita prouds themselfs to be the amoungst the few bike companies in Europe that decided not to switch to Asia to manufacture bikes.

The bike folds as little as the Curve D3 and weights only 11,5kg.

Its a great pretty lightweight bike and its speed is great!

Some pics attached.
That's only a 6 speed bike as you can see it has a fairly basic Shimano freewheel on the back. Also assembled in Portugal would be more accurate as every component including the frame appears to be from the far east.

Also it claims to be 12.5kg here. It seems to have been available in the UK for a short time.

Orbita Flex-16 6 Speed Lightweight...

I would class it as a one step up bike. It's not entry level as has a aluminium frame but has many of the components you would find on entry level bikes like a low end freewheel and derailleur. It has an improved stem with height adjustment over basic folding bikes. It does not include a rack or mudguards so weight wise seems quite high maybe the seat post and handlebars are steel.

A similar bike here only 0.5kg extra and includes kick stand, rack and mudguards, you could remove those probably to go under 11.5kg. It has a steel frame which I think I would prefer on a small folding bike like this and also a slightly better derailleur. Sometimes on these small frames you don't seem to get much weight advantage going from steel to aluminium its almost like they have to reinforce more and lose the weight advantage. Also can't help noticing the very high spoke count on the Orbita wheels maybe the bike has a higher rider weight capacity.


https://bicycles4u.com/products/dubl...nt=12249200198

So personally I would say for the UK price at least the Orbita was very poor value. The one review on the halfords site gives the Orbita 5/5 but the reviewer is based in Portugal and Halfords don't even sell to Portugal as far as I know.

In the UK you can get a high quality freehub/claris equipped folding bike for £215 of a similar weight from a direct seller.

GREENWAY Alloy Folding bike,Hi Spec,20 Inch wheel - Greenwaycycles

I'd personally see the Orbita as having a value of about £160 retail however I totally understand assembly in Portgual probably adds some costs which have to be passed onto the customer and their assembly of the bike from parts may be excellent. Some of the bikes assembled in China and the far east you have to check yourself and add grease etc.
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This bike is cool but it misses the magnets that stick both wheeel together when folded.

I was thinking if i can adapt the Dahon magnets in the frame like the Dahons, or some other kind of method..
A shock cord or Velcro strap through the wheels will do the trick. You don't have mounts for Dahon magnets.
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Do you think I can drill two holes in the front and the end of the frame near the rear and front wheels in order to adapt and screw the two dahon magnets into the two wheels?

Do you think the fact of drilling the holes in the frame will make the frame more fragile to break?
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Kiss

A simple 20-gram velcro strap will do. Plus those magnets are not light-weight, demanetize over time, and cheap ones are not usually strong enough to keep the wheels together.

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Do you think I can drill two holes in the front and the end of the frame near the rear and front wheels in order to adapt and screw the two dahon magnets into the two wheels?

Do you think the fact of drilling the holes in the frame will make the frame more fragile to break?
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Do you think I can drill two holes in the front and the end of the frame near the rear and front wheels in order to adapt and screw the two dahon magnets into the two wheels?

Do you think the fact of drilling the holes in the frame will make the frame more fragile to break?
I have so many thoughts.
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Do you think I can drill two holes in the front and the end of the frame near the rear and front wheels in order to adapt and screw the two dahon magnets into the two wheels?

Do you think the fact of drilling the holes in the frame will make the frame more fragile to break?
Looking at the bike shows 2 holes on each dropout so why not just try using those? The holes probably take an M5 bolt if they follow standard bike practice.
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Ok now I have my bike and have tested it.

The first impression is that it get a lot of attention and questions from people I don't even know. They want to know about the bike, etc.

Then riding the bike... I am 1.85m and the seat post length is not that high so I feel a bit down in the bike... The seat tube is about 40cm usable and I would need a longer one.. don't know if I can buy one longer or not.

In straight line plane road the bike is great and the gears go well but on hills and steep hills forget even with the gears I need to carry the bike walking to the top then ride again. No way one can ride the steep hill.. I just see myself riding here in fact t I don't see any bike riding.. that make me think why I got so much attention

When riding the soft hills in lower gear I get a lot tired from pedaling because obviously the wheels are small.. but it's hard to get to the top.

In all I think Orbita Flex 16 it is a good bike. Perhaps a 20" wheel version would be better for me but I like the look of the 16" inch model and I can travel with it in a small cartoon box as a standard flight pack as part of my airplane ticket.

Now I need to find a good helmet and something to stick both wheels together when bike is folded.

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I need help finding a good Mips helmet.

Any recommendations and links?

Also I will need to buy usb lamps so would also need some advice here.

And finally I will need to buy a.new seat post as the one of the bike has just 400 mm and I feel a bit low in the bike. So I will need a bigger seat post. The seatpost tube measures 31.8mm.

Also how could I switch from derrail to an internal 8 gear hub? Would the bike become heavier?
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Trek Bontrager helmets, Adding the Mips feature will cost more money...

31.8, or 31.75mm to be precise is 1.25" Asia makes some in Titanium, Or you can contact Ti Cycles, a Custom Shop in Portland Oregon..

reads like you bought the bike now want to change everything, it happens..

may be better to sell that and get another with your needs better met Or N+1, have one for a friend to borrow..


... weights can be looked up.. Sturmey Archer Website? Shimano?





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I need help finding a good Mips helmet.

Any recommendations and links?

Also I will need to buy usb lamps so would also need some advice here.

And finally I will need to buy a.new seat post as the one of the bike has just 400 mm and I feel a bit low in the bike. So I will need a bigger seat post. The seatpost tube measures 31.8mm.

Also how could I switch from derrail to an internal 8 gear hub? Would the bike become heavier?
From what you said you paid a good price for the bike and therefore you might be able to get back what you paid. Use the experience of this bike to help choose your next bike. Now you know you want maybe a 20" wheel folding bike with hub gears you can focus on that. It will work out much cheaper to get a bike close to your desired spec rather than upgrade a bike that is far from your desired spec.
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Hi thanks for your comments but I love the bike I bought because it's small and I really need a small bike. I just want to change what is really necessary for me to feel good on it. For instance when I sit on the bike I feel low because the seat post is not long enough for me so I need to buy a longer one. Also the derail also bumps here and there because it's a bit away from the main frame of the bike that's why I am thinking switch to an internal hub. Nothing more and above all I really like the bike I bought! And yes Iam thinking in converting it electric so that can go up the hills... It's very tiring to pedal all these hills over here... I heard about the 16 wheel conversion kits for brompton so might fit it a try here. This would help a lot on the hills.

So Iam improving my bike instead of buying a new bigger one and sell this one that I really like.

I will be doing this with time no rush...
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Hi thanks for your comments but I love the bike I bought because it's small and I really need a small bike. I just want to change what is really necessary for me to feel good on it. For instance when I sit on the bike I feel low because the seat post is not long enough for me so I need to buy a longer one. Also the derail also bumps here and there because it's a bit away from the main frame of the bike that's why I am thinking switch to an internal hub. Nothing more and above all I really like the bike I bought! And yes Iam thinking in converting it electric so that can go up the hills... It's very tiring to pedal all these hills over here... I heard about the 16 wheel conversion kits for brompton so might fit it a try here. This would help a lot on the hills.

So Iam improving my bike instead of buying a new bigger one and sell this one that I really like.

I will be doing this with time no rush...
Get the right size seat post now. Hold off on the IGH - if you add an electric motor, you might be able to drop down to 3 speeds or even single speed and the IGH would be an unnecessary expense. MANY folks run e-bikes as single speeds (check out endless sphere).
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