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Old 03-01-18, 10:13 AM   #51
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You're good to go with GA2 grips. Pre-2017 Brommies used short grips, but the bars have been redesigned to use the standard 130mm length now. GA2 is 132, which is close enough.

I prefer the GP1 model with the paddles in Small for my small hands; the GA2 looks to me to be a more traditional round-ish grip which probably works better for trail riding.


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I bought some GA2 to try on my pakiT - really did not like them. I don't know what possessed me to even try them since I love my Portland Design Works Whiskey grips (like a leather version of the Ergo GP1). Well, I do know - they weigh less; weight isn't everything, lol. Stupid suckers would not come off, not even with my usual sprays of soapy water or rubbing alcohol under so I ended up cracking the long plastic tube inside one.
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Do you enjoy posting uninteresting posts at great length? I stopped reading after the first oversize graphic. It must be annoying to have to be right all the time.

Nevertheless, the fact is the dynamo in the hub and the lights are a waste of money. I paid 380THB for front and rear USB lights and 15 € in France.

No doubt you'll wish to prove this wrong, but I suspect that's a fair bit cheaper than the Brompton product.
You're a strange person that not only compares apples to oranges but insists that, as you had a mediocre experience with a very old and very cheap apple once for one that all apples are bad and to be avioded by everyone and second that all fruit are apples. Thus all fruit must be avoided as all fruit are apples and all apples are like the one you once had. And even when presented with a fresh Banana you insist on it to be an apple and to be bad because it would be an apple. A bit of a strange behavior, but it's your life, so have fun with it. But possibly you should stop giving people advice about food.

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FWIW, B&M Eyc Senso T was part of my headlight dynamo installation ,, small, good fit under the front bag,

+ brighter being low, closer to the street ..

New Schmidt XS, Brompton wheel built around straight pull DB spokes, anodized..

prior XS used conventional spokes, crossed pattern .. a bit heavier and only in polished , finish , that hub is the factory option.

Or Shimano's , for the cost conscious..






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I bought some GA2 to try on my pakiT - really did not like them. I don't know what possessed me to even try them since I love my Portland Design Works Whiskey grips (like a leather version of the Ergo GP1). Well, I do know - they weigh less; weight isn't everything, lol. Stupid suckers would not come off, not even with my usual sprays of soapy water or rubbing alcohol under so I ended up cracking the long plastic tube inside one.


Thanks for the insight. I'll look at those PDW ones too... I forgot that they make grips...
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B&M Eyc Senso T
Nice option, too. Pretty decent light for the money and very small. Works very well on the Brompton and is reasonably cheap. The only (but to me very annoying) issue is that it has an electronic push button instead of a traditional switch. This makes turning the thing on and off a pain as it needs power for that and for power it needs a turning hub-dynamo-wheel. One can imagine where that goes. In my eyes an over-engineering and even nobody at Busch and Müller could explain to me where the advantage of such a push button over a switch might be. Same issue with the IQ X btw., unnessesary and stupid. At least in terms of drag not much of a drama with the SON but clearly with the Shimano.
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never touch the button, Senso turns it* off, but LED has such a long life,mine will expire first, ..

* T is day time running, the bright one comes on at dusk, the 2 flat diodes run in day mode and for the standlight..
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never touch the button, Senso turns it* off, but LED has such a long life,mine will expire first, ..

* T is day time running, the bright one comes on at dusk, the 2 flat diodes run in day mode and for the standlight..
Yeah, possibly the T-version is the better choice. Unfortunately the non-T-version does not have a sensor, thus is powered up all the time to the full unless you switch it off manually and consumes energy that way. An even a sensor may be an issue, depending from the lamp as below a Brompton-bag on the carrier blog most lamps (respectively their sensors) assume it would be night, even in brightest sunshine.
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I don't know if Peter White carries any other Eyc versions, My LBS has a dealer account, with him, Wholesale Importer .

run the Line toplight line in the B M3L reflector bracket..


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assume it would be night, even in brightest sunshine.
the assumption, on your part, is the problem, it proves to not be true..






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the assumption, on your part, is the problem, it proves to not be true..

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Not my assumption, the one of the lamp. This is the case with the IQ X and a Brompton bag as well as with the Edellux. With the Eyc until now I only used the non-sensor-version as it is cheaper (you can get it around 33€ in Germany) and I do not see much benefit in a daytime-light personally. Therefor I prefer the light to be turned off during daylight and on during the night.
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anyhow with my O bag on, over it, in daylight, only the be seen day running lights are on,
not the see by bright heatsink connected one.


What ever.. bottle dynamos come off the tire completely.. if the tiny light on drag is too much for you.
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What ever.. bottle dynamos come off the tire completely.. if the tiny light on drag is too much for you.
I use SON dynamos and Edelux2 lights on the two Bromptons I use the most. The Edelux has a mechanical switch and the SON does not produce much drag anyway. Another Brompton uses battery lights and the one that get's used the least uses a Shimano dynamo and an Edelux1 lamp, again having a physical switch. I had the IQ X on one of the Bromptons but replaced it with another Edelux when it died because of the electronic push button along with the issues with quality and blinding. So no issue for me.
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I have an Edelux 1* on 2 bikes , neither are Bromptons.. both have SON hubs..

* eDelux 2 not made back then..


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Nevertheless, the fact is the dynamo in the hub and the lights are a waste of money. I paid 380THB for front and rear USB lights and 15 € in France.
I would never in my life consider using a bike without dynamo lighting as my daily city bike. Never any fear of running out of charge. They're always on. Don't have to remember to take them off and put them on, charge them or replace batteries. Also, the beam shape of the IQ-X which will work with any dynamo system on Brompton is pretty much perfect. Puts all the light onto the ground in a bright wide beam. I don't know why anyone would want to fuss with USB lights
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Not sure how this turned into a USB vs. dynamo light thread, but thanks for the responses anyway!
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Not sure how this turned into a USB vs. dynamo light thread, but thanks for the responses anyway!
This is why I rarely post anything nowadays, as the members tend to derail the threads with their own trivial bologna. Ask a question, get nonsensical off topic answers. Ask about Brompton choices, and wind up with debates over lighting that you really couldn't care less about. Ask about inexpensive folders, get recommend a $3000 folder, and also get told that you didn't respect their responses because you're not willing to put a few extra bucks into it.
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I don't know why anyone would want to fuss with USB lights.
I don't believe you don't know the answer to this. This thread started as a roadie picking out a Brompton, then somehow we got sidetracked into lighting. So I surmised that if he cared at all about lights (which he never mentioned), he would probably appreciate lightweight USB pieces that are only on the bike when he needs them. And there in lies your answer: Weight. I love my Shimano dynohub with B&M Eye Tec on my Rivendell, but I wouldn't want to lug that stuff around on a folding bike I'll be carrying a lot. For that application, USB is better. You're welcome.
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Weight. I love my Shimano dynohub with B&M Eye Tec on my Rivendell, but I wouldn't want to lug that stuff around on a folding bike I'll be carrying a lot. For that application, USB is better. You're welcome.
No doubt. Those Shimano hubs are heavy af. The SP hub is a way better way to go. So much lighter weight.
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This is why I rarely post anything nowadays, as the members tend to derail the threads with their own trivial bologna. Ask a question, get nonsensical off topic answers. Ask about Brompton choices, and wind up with debates over lighting that you really couldn't care less about. Ask about inexpensive folders, get recommend a $3000 folder, and also get told that you didn't respect their responses because you're not willing to put a few extra bucks into it.
I try to come here occasionally and actually help a commenter with the thing they actually asked about. I don't know why this concept is so hard for some people to follow.
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Exactly,....this is why I rarely even contribute to making recommendations. I often have answers, but the constant bickering and derailing makes me realize it's best to remain silent. I believe quite a few other members do the same,...it's a shame really. The sense of community is slowly getting destroyed.
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lol ... Just saw the thread.... I have both of them, chpt3 6spd and Black Lacquer 2spd. Bought last year from Thanksgiving sale with 15% off and free shipping.

I live in bay area. When I go to San Francisco, I used to ride my Titanium Ni edition 6 speed but now I just ride my 2 speed Ti Brompton. (12T/17T) The bike is about 8kg so it is easier for me to carry around the bart stations and cycling up hills in San Francisco.

BTW, I like the Brompton grips because of lightweight. However, I replaced them with Ergon Brooks grips because they caused my hand numbness.
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Very cool... I'm thinking of the Brooks grips too. I have a B17 narrow saddle in black and they would match perfectly. Now I just need to decide whether I even want to put the Brooks saddle on there (weighs over 500 grams). It's either that or throw on a Fabric saddle (also a UK brand) that weighs closer to 230 grams...




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lol ... Just saw the thread.... I have both of them, chpt3 6spd and Black Lacquer 2spd. Bought last year from Thanksgiving sale with 15% off and free shipping.

I live in bay area. When I go to San Francisco, I used to ride my Titanium Ni edition 6 speed but now I just ride my 2 speed Ti Brompton. (12T/17T) The bike is about 8kg so it is easier for me to carry around the bart stations and cycling up hills in San Francisco.

BTW, I like the Brompton grips because of lightweight. However, I replaced them with Ergon Brooks grips because they caused my hand numbness.
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Here is the picture of my Black Raw Laquer 2 speed. My chpt3 is on the shelf.
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lol ... Just saw the thread.... I have both of them, chpt3 6spd and Black Lacquer 2spd. Bought last year from Thanksgiving sale with 15% off and free shipping.

I live in bay area. When I go to San Francisco, I used to ride my Titanium Ni edition 6 speed but now I just ride my 2 speed Ti Brompton. (12T/17T) The bike is about 8kg so it is easier for me to carry around the bart stations and cycling up hills in San Francisco.

BTW, I like the Brompton grips because of lightweight. However, I replaced them with Ergon Brooks grips because they caused my hand numbness.
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You cycle SF hills on a 2 speed???? Okay, you are now my HERO! Damn, you must be strong. I've got an 8 speed Bike Friday pakiT and I struggle on anything in the City over around 10 degrees.
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Actually 18. There are 10 Bromptons from that picture I post.
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Very cool... I'm thinking of the Brooks grips too. I have a B17 narrow saddle in black and they would match perfectly. Now I just need to decide whether I even want to put the Brooks saddle on there (weighs over 500 grams). It's either that or throw on a Fabric saddle (also a UK brand) that weighs closer to 230 grams...
well, Brooks C13 carbon carved weight is about 290g but that's not something I'd recommend because you need a new seatpost or at least different pentaclip for carbon saddle rail. Cost about $30 for the part you can find on ebay. Fabric is a very good brand. I like their saddles.
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