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Old 06-02-18, 03:51 AM
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Anyone know anything about Cross Commuter Light Alloy?

This Cross Commuter Light Alloy 20" appears to be a good price at Argos at present (I can't include the URL until I've posted 10 posts, I'm afraid: you'll have to go to Argos .co.uk and add /product/7496181). It's on for 200 instead of 300. It claims to have a weight of 9kg, which seems incredible, but someone asked a question about this and people have replied saying it's more like 13kg. One person says 15kg.

I can't find anything else about it, other than this review page: reviewstotrust .co.uk and add /review-of-cross-commuter-light-alloy-20-inch-bike/

I need a sub-250 folding bike for occasional use, and I'm looking at this or the MuddyFox evolve100 from Sports Direct, which is 200, apparently 50% off. Sadly the Evolve200 with the Nexus hub gear seems not to be available any more.

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Old 06-09-18, 12:16 AM
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Sorry to bump this, but I'd like to buy in the next day or tonywatkins.org so any advice would be helpful. Thanks so much.
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Old 06-10-18, 09:55 AM
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I am pretty sure not many people have the experience with this bike. It is being sold in one country, so numbers must be small. To me it is an entry level bike and you get what you pay for. For riding around I am sure it will be fine. I did read there is no real locking mechanism for the fold so that would be problematic if commuting but not unsolvable. Also as you have already mentioned, the weight claim is off by a long shot.

Bottom line, it's in your price range and it's on sale, what more could you ask for.
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Argos is a big box retailer akin to walmart , etc. , not a bike shop, so it's just a commodity. to ring up at checkout.

but they sell for cheap (even at 300) , so keep the receipt to return it, for a refund, if you don't like it..
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One issue that could be important is there is no height adjustment for the handlebars this makes the bike fit more difficult and may make it unpleasant to ride depending on your height. It's not a bargain at 200 its about the going rate I would say for the spec.

Argos are a box shifter with little support.

Another option here;

It's heavier but does have height adjustable handlebars, slightly better rider weight capacity but apart from being a bit more stylish in my opinion especially if you go for the aluminium silver finish (steel bike just described as an aluminium finish paint job) is a lot cheaper.

https://bicycles4u.com/products/oslo-explorer
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Thanks, that's very helpful.

Bonzo Banana, I see you have a MuddyFox Evolve 200. It's disappointing that it doesn't seem to be available as it was apparently a bargain from Sports Direct with the Nexus hub. Any thoughts on the Evolve 100? No adjustment for handlebars again, but not much does in my price bracket. The Oslo Explorer appears to be a bargain.
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Old 06-12-18, 11:02 AM
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I have decided that, since I have back problems, the lack of adjustable handlebars is a deal breaker. I also think I need to keep the weight down for carrying, so I'm ruling out anything steel-framed. That means I need to increase my budget, of course. So now I'm looking at the Carrera Intercity (sold by Halfords in UK) which seems to be around 12 kg. Most branches don't seem to keep them in stock, but one I happened to visit today had one, and I was quite impressed. The normal price is 350, but in the branch it's included in the "20% off selected bikes" promotion, though it isn't online. 280 seems pretty good to me.

BUT, the branch also had an odd Bickerton Junction 1909 – lovely. This was reduced as it was ordered in for a customer who never came for it – to 500. The ticket said it was reduced from 600, but it looks like the normal 1909 list price is 995! That makes it quite a bargain – but it's more than twice my original budget. Stretching to 280 for the Carrera is reasonable, but it's very tempting to go for the Bickerton (particularly as I often used to borrow a friend's original Bickerton, which was like riding an aluminum jelly!). Any thoughts?
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I think the Carrera Intercity is closer to 13kg. If you look on cycle republic (a Halfords owned exclusive bike shop) I think its more like 12.7kg. There is also the Carrera Transit which is identical to the Muddyfox Evolve 200 except it has a 3 speed hub not 7 speed. 3 speed hubs are more reliable and longer lasting but of course slower and harder getting up hills. Depending on your fitness could be a good option.

The Carrera bikes are great value. You can use zeek vouchers to reduce the cost, british cycling membership and use something like topcashback to get discounts on both the bike purchase and the zeek voucher purchase. If you make the effort you can get the price down quite a bit.

Go outdoors also have a decent folding bike around 300 although no mudguards or rack I think.

Not sure what else is decent at the price currently. I find Bickerton bikes quite overpriced for what they are. I personally wouldn't consider paying the extra unless you really can see the value in the components fitted.

I have a old Bickerton but I'm too heavy to ride it. I'm hopeful I might be able to ride it in a few months. This chap doesn't look that light although maybe a bit shorter than me.

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Thanks! The Bickerton felt slightly lighter, but it doesn't have a rack. Almost 1000 for it would be way too much. 500 seems good value for the level of equipment, but I can't really justify going significantly over my already-extended budget when the Carrera gives me what I want.

The Transit is quite a bit heavier than the intercity, and I wouldn't want a 3-speed. I don't like the one in Go Outdoors – very heavy.

Interestingly, the Halfords website does not have reductions on the folders, and nor does my local branch – just the one I called into yesterday. So with a 70 saving (20%), I think I'll go back to it before they realise they catch on to the fact that they're not meant to be discounting them! (I may just try haggling on the price of the Bickie – nothing to lose!)

Zeek gives a decent saving for Halfords – 8%. British Cycling membership is a good shout – the discount on the bike purchase pays for the membership. WIsh I'd not just ordered a load of stuff from Chain Reaction Cycles . . .
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One issue that could be important is there is no height adjustment for the handlebars this makes the bike fit more difficult and may make it unpleasant to ride depending on your height
This is an issue with many retailers and manufactures claiming their bikes suitable for riders of heights based solely on the height of the saddle and neglecting that the riding position will be likely be too aggressive for many of those riders.
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Thanks! The Bickerton felt slightly lighter, but it doesn't have a rack. Almost 1000 for it would be way too much. 500 seems good value for the level of equipment, but I can't really justify going significantly over my already-extended budget when the Carrera gives me what I want.

The Transit is quite a bit heavier than the intercity, and I wouldn't want a 3-speed. I don't like the one in Go Outdoors very heavy.

Interestingly, the Halfords website does not have reductions on the folders, and nor does my local branch just the one I called into yesterday. So with a 70 saving (20%), I think I'll go back to it before they realise they catch on to the fact that they're not meant to be discounting them! (I may just try haggling on the price of the Bickie nothing to lose!)

Zeek gives a decent saving for Halfords 8%. British Cycling membership is a good shout the discount on the bike purchase pays for the membership. WIsh I'd not just ordered a load of stuff from Chain Reaction Cycles . . .
The go outdoors model I meant was this one which should be the lightest option at 11.8kg.

Compass Fast Forward Folding Bike | GO Outdoors

Halfords bike weights are often wrong by a small margin. Hence the Intercity is 12kg at Halfords but 12.7kg at cycle republic. I don't know what the Transit true weight is but I suspect it will be less than stated. It doesn't sound like you are considering it because of the 3 gears but you could always take in some luggage scales to see for yourself.
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The go outdoors model I meant was this one which should be the lightest option at 11.8kg.
Ah, I didn't see that one in my local Go Outdoors the other day. I prefer the Carrera Intercity, not least because it already has mudguards and rack.
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Ah, I didn't see that one in my local Go Outdoors the other day. I prefer the Carrera Intercity, not least because it already has mudguards and rack.
It's difficult to beat the Carrera Intercity I think at the moment. Very solid bike with decent components. Sometime ago I was in Halfords comparing the Intercity with a Dahon bike next to it. I think the Dahon was 400 and the Intercity was maybe 320 at the time and the Dahon looked like pure junk compared to it. The Dahon had a low end freewheel, tourney derailleur, lower end heavier parts and even the welds looked worse on the frame. The one thing I remember not liking about the Intercity was the revo shifter I much prefer trigger shifters. Also in comparison with the Dahon the paintwork was bland and unappealing I thought. Some of the Carrera bike frame artwork is good like the Carrera Crosscity but the Intercity looks dull.

Also Halfords do a 30 minute trial on e-bikes and you can even book a 48hr trail on a e-bike for free if you fancy it. If you are going to be buying one of their normal folding bikes anyway I'd see it as a fringe benefit to try out one of their e-bikes. The Crosscity is one of the best e-bikes going at reasonable money. Very decent bike so worth a go for free if you fancy it.
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It's difficult to beat the Carrera Intercity I think at the moment. Very solid bike with decent components. Sometime ago I was in Halfords comparing the Intercity with a Dahon bike next to it. I think the Dahon was 400 and the Intercity was maybe 320 at the time and the Dahon looked like pure junk compared to it. The Dahon had a low end freewheel, tourney derailleur, lower end heavier parts and even the welds looked worse on the frame. The one thing I remember not liking about the Intercity was the revo shifter I much prefer trigger shifters. Also in comparison with the Dahon the paintwork was bland and unappealing I thought. Some of the Carrera bike frame artwork is good like the Carrera Crosscity but the Intercity looks dull.
I don't like revo shifters either. But it doesn't justify the added cost for the Bickie (which has Alivio triggers; it had lovely grips too! And a lovely Brooks saddle. And it's 9-speed . . . ).

I rather like the Intercity in red. I'm not a big fan of very exciting paint jobs, though I do like the red and silver of my Orbit.
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I don't like revo shifters either. But it doesn't justify the added cost for the Bickie (which has Alivio triggers; it had lovely grips too! And a lovely Brooks saddle. And it's 9-speed . . . ).

I rather like the Intercity in red. I'm not a big fan of very exciting paint jobs, though I do like the red and silver of my Orbit.
It shouldn't cost too much to change the shifter. Yes frame artwork is personally preference but I could imagine many finding it a bit dull.
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