Oragami Hawk vs Citizen Miami
 

I'm not allowed to post links yet. However, a quick google search of oragami bikes and citizen bikes should point you in the correct direction for specifics if you're unfamiliar with the bicycles.

Hello there, I'm an extremely new user on here so bare with me.

I'm a 6ft3in tall, 215lb man looking for a folding bike that I can fit in the back of my truck and still be able to ride around comfortably. I'd also like it to be relatively easy to fold and unfold, and to be able to be taken on trains/subways/etc. So, I came down to these two bikes. I'm not really an everyday type of cyclist or anything of the sort, but I do like to occasionally go for bike rides. So, without breaking the bank, and achieving the previous set of goals I laid out, my decision came down to these two bicycles. The only thing that sort of worries me is that I heard the Origami Hawk doesn't have "clamps" or "screws" (or whatever they may generally use) to hold the folded bike in place. Well, that and maybe overall build quality? I mean they're both relatively cheap bicycles but I'm not sure. Can anyone help me out at all?

I should also mention I'm interested in 20" wheeled bikes. Also yes, I spelled "Origami" wrong. My bad, haha.

Based purely on the appearances (having no experience with either) of the two I really prefer the Citizen Miami. Looks better, has Shimano for shifter, derailleur, and I presume cassette, you can customize color, add accessories, and they ship it for free.

Are the shimano shifters that much better?

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I am the owner of Origami. The Hawk comes with Velcro straps to hold it together when folded because we don't trust magnets to hold everything together. The Hawk also comes with the rack and fenders as standard equipment. The gear set, derailleur, and gear selector are all Shimano components. Also, we offer a two week test ride, so if it doesn't meet your needs you can return it for a refund, the only thing you are risking is the shipping cost.

That makes sense. You know what, after looking it over, I've decided to purchase the Hawk.

To me both look fairly low end entry level bikes with basic quality drivetrain components. These bikes will be heavy and only really suitable for occasional use in my opinion. If you could just stretch a little more to $300-350 you could get a Euromini Urbano which offers higher quality components with a freehub based drivetrain that would likely cope better with your height and weight over the long term and be both faster and easier going up hills. Sometimes you set a price in your mind you want to pay but sometimes a much better product is available for just a little more money. Buying a folding bike with entry level components may mean more of your time spent adjusting and maintaining the bike and more frequent replacement parts destroying any price advantage you had in the first place. Sometimes the sensible purchase costs just a little more. I'm a strong believer in diminishing returns myself where you pay a lot more and get no real benefit but here the sensible purchase is just a little more over the entry level bikes. The Miami is $229 but you can get a Urbano for $299 only $70 more if its a returned bike or $120 more for a new model.

Weight doesn't really bother me as much as compact figure. As for quality components, I've been riding entry level bicycles my entire life. Haven't really had to do much maintenance other than replacing a tire here and there. I don't really travel all that much either, so I mainly want this to ride around my neighborhood and for when I go to Chicago (I can probably count the amount of trips I take to Chicago on both hands, probably even one hand quite frankly). But yeah, I feel like the Hawk will suit my needs just fine. I'll probably look at a fancier bicycle in the future when I'm more financially equipped . But again, for now the Hawk should be just fine. I thank you for your input, nonetheless.

Please, when you get this bike, keep us posted with a small review.

Will do!

Maybe a review on the Origami site as well as there doesn't appear to be any reviews of it at the moment to inform customers. The same model is available on ebay at a higher price with a few better images although one shows the transfer put on the wrong way at the factory. You can't really knock the value at $179 direct from the company. You are at close to the maximum allowed weight of the bike plus you will need the saddle post at its maximum height so you should be quite a good test for the strength of the bike. I don't know your fitness level but you should be able to give the bike a good workout regarding its hubs, bottom bracket and freewheel. The one area that looks like it could be quite compromised is the pedals look like the very entry level folding tyre with a plastic middle rather than the type that have a steel or aluminium central part. I've seen similar before on other bikes and they seemed poor and were the first thing to be replaced. Doesn't mean its the same quality on this bike but they look similar.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Origami-Haw...e/232741110956

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So, I believe I will still give a proper review but so far so good! I gave the bike a small but significant 45 minute ride and everything seemed fine! The only real issue was that the rear break seemed to squeak a little bit. However, it seemed to squeak less and less throughout the bike ride so hopefully it's just a "new bike" type of thing. But the saddle didn't even need to be extended all the way, Speaking of the saddle, the seat is SUPER comfortable! Way better than my previous bicycle. As far as the peddles go, basically the same as my previous bike as well.

Had to remove the link in the quote because I don't have 10 posts yet.

Sounding very good so far. You can normally reduce or remove brake squeal by setting the toe in of the brake pads.

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