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Litepro and FnHon frames
In order to add to the knowledge base of this channel, to widen often parochial, elitist perspectives on folding bikes, particularly solid low-price, value gear, I am sharing here some of the framesets easily available in many countries of Asia-Pacific. I list price to provide perspective. I have no commercial interests, direct or indirect in this. Just sharing, that's all.
Litepro/Crius Velocity Al alloy, $150 frameset (2.8kg), 406/451 wheelhttps://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ffd1821a32.jpg FnHon Gust Chome-moly, frameset $275, 305/349 wheel https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5a7c6179f8.jpg Litepro/Crius Master D Al alloy, $150 frameset, 406/451 wheel, disk brakehttps://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3e293b7fa2.jpg None of these bikes require any proprietary parts. Handleposts, 74cm front OLD, etc. are all folding bike standard, Shimano Road/MTB standard plug-and-play. This, and the fact that you can buy a frame alone, means that you can customize to your heart's content without a price premium or a middleman. Chose the best or worst, the cheapest or priciest parts. It's all up to you. Their low price, the cutting out of the middleman, and non-proprietary nature means greater accesability, a democratization of the segment away from pricy boutique jobs, and a move from fringe to mainstream. For those looking for solid complete bikes that don't cost an arm and a leg, and don't weigh a ton, you can look to the FSIR Spin line of bikes in 20" and 16" wheel sizes. Spin 5.0 https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...47781fa4a3.jpg Spin 3.0 https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...11809f9252.jpg |
Originally Posted by Abu Mahendra
(Post 20451827)
In order to add to the knowledge base of this channel, to widen often parochial, elitist perspectives on folding bikes, particularly solid low-price, value gear, I am sharing here some of the framesets easily available in many countries of Asia-Pacific. I list price to provide perspective. I have no commercial interests, direct or indirect in this. Just sharing, that's all.
Litepro/Crius Velocity Al alloy, $150 frameset (2.8kg), 406/451 wheelhttps://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ffd1821a32.jpg FnHon Gust Chome-moly, frameset $275, 305/349 wheel https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5a7c6179f8.jpg Litepro/Crius Master D Al alloy, $150 frameset, 406/451 wheel, disk brakehttps://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3e293b7fa2.jpg None of these bikes require any proprietary parts. Handleposts, 74cm front OLD, etc. are all folding bike standard, Shimano Road/MTB standard plug-and-play. This, and the fact that you can buy a frame alone, means that you can customize to your heart's content without a price premium or a middleman. Chose the best or worst, the cheapest or priciest parts. It's all up to you. Their low price, the cutting out of the middleman, and non-proprietary nature means greater accesability, a democratization of the segment away from pricy boutique jobs, and a move from fringe to mainstream. For those looking for solid complete bikes that don't cost an arm and a leg, and don't weigh a ton, you can look to the FSIR Spin line of bikes in 20" and 16" wheel sizes. Spin 5.0 https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...47781fa4a3.jpg Spin 3.0 https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...11809f9252.jpg |
Other than Solorock being the US equivalent to Fsir, do you happen to know how to source the other frames in the US? Best I could find for the Fnhon is TaoBao or Aliexpress. There's also Fsir listed on Taobao but a full bike would cost a lot to ship... though their disc version of the Spin 5.0 looks very enticing.
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Originally Posted by BCATC
(Post 20451929)
Other than Solorock being the US equivalent to Fsir, do you happen to know how to source the other frames in the US? Best I could find for the Fnhon is TaoBao or Aliexpress. There's also Fsir listed on Taobao but a full bike would cost a lot to ship... though their disc version of the Spin 5.0 looks very enticing.
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FSIR Spin pricing
I forgot to include pricing for the FSIR Spin bikes. I bought a Spin 5.0 for THB17,800, roughly USD590.
I stripped most of the parts and wheels, sold them off, and recouped USD250. Net cost for frame, fork, headset, handlepost, seatpost collars, seatpost, about USD350. I then reinvested about USD350 in a hand-built wheelset, a SLX/Zee 1x drivetrain and Avid brakes, Ergon grips. For about USD700 net, I have a relatively light (9.5kg/20.9lbs), quality, non-proprietary components, customized bike which has withstood the rigors of touring, and folds well enough for occasional rail/bus/plane travel. I bought a Spin 3.0 from an importer in Indonesia. I paid about USD600 with shipment to Bali. But they can be had for as low as USD460 in Bangkok. Again, this is FYI only. |
I have to say that South East Asia does have access to a lot more folding bike options.
Add to this the access and cheap shipping from Taobao/AliExpress, the bikes/parts can be had for really good prices. I looked at the CRUIS MasterV and Velocity a few years back when looking for a 20" folder. Looked comparable to Tern/Dahon for cheaper. Bought a CRIUS 14" Smart3.0 folder and I've been satisfied with the quality so far after about 2yrs. Is Indonesia and Thailand cheaper than Singapore? |
Originally Posted by pinholecam
(Post 20452173)
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Is Indonesia and Thailand cheaper than Singapore? |
Originally Posted by Abu Mahendra
(Post 20452216)
Indonesia has rather high import duties. Singapore is more expensive, but its lower duties, more advanced commercial system and proximity (geographically, linguistically/culturally) to China contribute to offsetting the price differences. Overall, though, Thailand is the better of the bunch.
Do you have any shops in Bangkok that you tend to go to? I don't visit Bangkok that often, but it would be nice to drop by one of these shops to see whats available. |
Originally Posted by pinholecam
(Post 20452485)
Thanks for the information.
Do you have any shops in Bangkok that you tend to go to? I don't visit Bangkok that often, but it would be nice to drop by one of these shops to see whats available. |
Measured weight - Litepro Velocity & Master V framesets
Litepro Master V - 2,694 grams
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...75a835aae6.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...424348f811.jpg Litepro Velocity - 2,808 gramshttps://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7724203e46.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7245fccc4d.jpg |
I' am in contact with some of the main folding bike frame manufactories in China. Regarding the mentioned brands, FSIR, CRIUS, LITEPRO, FNHON...... if you guys have any question, I would like to help you to get more information. :)
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Originally Posted by GTA
(Post 20505323)
I' am in contact with some of the main folding bike frame manufactories in China. Regarding the mentioned brands, FSIR, CRIUS, LITEPRO, FNHON...... if you guys have any question, I would like to help you to get more information. :)
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FnHon Monsoon Y2018 406/451 (silver/black) vs. Monsoon Y1818 355 (gold)
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...19ddb7f504.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4fdf7ca04e.jpg |
FnHon Blast in polished silver
406/451 wheels 2,600g https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e762197a40.jpg |
Great pics and info. Thanks for posting
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ABU are you selling these now? You seem a bit fixated on them resently. Roger
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Originally Posted by rhenning
(Post 20517591)
ABU are you selling these now? You seem a bit fixated on them resently. Roger
"In order to add to the knowledge base of this channel, to widen often parochial, elitist perspectives on folding bikes, particularly solid low-price, value gear, I am sharing here some of the framesets easily available in many countries of Asia-Pacific. I list price to provide perspective. I have no commercial interests, direct or indirect in this. Just sharing, that's all." If you have any objections or concerns about this thread, I encourage you to bring it to the attention of the moderators. Thanks. |
Wow these are awesome!! Exactly what I've been looking for...nice folding frames for major mods!
This is my folding ebike project from 9 yrs ago. Bought the Dahon Boardwalk S1 mainly for it's chromoly frame, as opposed to it's low price, because the more expensive folders were aluminum. I needed the chromoly so I could spread the fork and dropouts for my custom wheels. I would have bought one of these LitePro frames if they had been available. Love my Boardwalk, but there's a few things I've been wanting to upgrade still, like the stupid 1 piece non-adjustable stem/handlebar (considered non-standard even to Dahon lol). Hate the fact that most upgrades require permanent mods. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3e48e7420e.jpg Kevinator's Dahon Boardwalk S1 - modified https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a3715b0f52.jpg Kevinator's Dahon Boardwalk S1 - modified |
Game changer
The availability of affordable framesets is, as I've said before, a game changer. It frees one from the choice of components made by the manufacturer, cirvcumvents expensive dealer customization premiums, democratizes the segment, and allows for creative builds based on very personal needs and whims. Here's an example of an unique build based on a FnHon Monsoon. The build not for me, but i appreciate what the builder has done.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f95e839540.jpg |
Originally Posted by GTA
(Post 20505323)
I' am in contact with some of the main folding bike frame manufactories in China. Regarding the mentioned brands, FSIR, CRIUS, LITEPRO, FNHON...... if you guys have any question, I would like to help you to get more information. :)
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Originally Posted by andh1ka
(Post 20586296)
Litepro and Fnhon looked to have the same design reference, but the pricing is a bit higher with Fnhon. Is there any significant differences in build quality or material between the two ?
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Originally Posted by GTA
(Post 20586333)
Both are with decent quality and material. Just chose the cheaper one. :)
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Originally Posted by GTA
(Post 20505323)
I' am in contact with some of the main folding bike frame manufactories in China. Regarding the mentioned brands, FSIR, CRIUS, LITEPRO, FNHON...... if you guys have any question, I would like to help you to get more information. :)
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Originally Posted by bartsav
(Post 20646665)
Great to know that. I would like to buy in spring one or two fnhon bikes (Blast frame, 18 speed, vbrakes) but I live in EU so the question is if they could produce such bikes for me and ship to Europe with their own way to avoid 23% VAT and customs. |
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