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Old 09-15-18, 10:11 AM
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Bike Friday discount!

Last time I passed on a BF discount, a couple people used it to get bikes. So, once again, here's a deal if you're thinking about a BF.
I also found out that I can get some goodies if you purchase and mention my referral, so if you are going to order one using this code,
please DM me for my referral info. I get some points and you get an extra goodie with your order, a win-win.
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Yea they do a Mid winter delivery deal many winters..
most customers want them in the summer..
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Linberl, I know this has been covered but my 'search the forum' skills are not great. Can you do the quick once-over about your Pakit? I love my BWC Brommie and intend to keep it, but I'm warming up to the idea of something lighter and better--geared (for Mt. Diablo) that would stay in the trunk of my car. Thanks!
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https://www.bikefriday.com/folding-b...-folding-bike/

climbing even the Alfine 11 may not gear low enough,
but they may offer a double chainring set up with a derailleur rear hub..
Caprio is the cassette hub for small wheel bikes

using a special 9-26t cassette


I Do Go On about internally geared cranks,,, not as light as a double chainset

but no front derailleur needed..



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Old 09-15-18, 12:00 PM
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Yes, I'm already messing around with the Build-a-Bike link. I'm asking about Linberl's specific build.
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Old 09-15-18, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Remi View Post
Linberl, I know this has been covered but my 'search the forum' skills are not great. Can you do the quick once-over about your Pakit? I love my BWC Brommie and intend to keep it, but I'm warming up to the idea of something lighter and better--geared (for Mt. Diablo) that would stay in the trunk of my car. Thanks!
My Pakit: now at 19 lbs. Ordered with an 8 speed rear der and chain drive (belt drive and IGH are available in various versions). Since one can fully configure with BF, I ordered 105 brake system, sugino cranks. I added titanium seat mast and stem mast (in retrospect, I would order them at build time rather than add full cost later on). I personally replaced the Claris rear der with a NOS 105 and replaced the handelbars/grips/stem. BF didn't have a source for the NOS rear der. I didn't know what bars/stem I would want so went with stock. Bike came without seat/pedals at my request (and lower cost). Ride: I've been very pleasantly surprised by the ride quality. Knowing it was a BF, I expected it to be good but the smaller wheels gave me pause. Now I wouldn't go back to 20" wheels because of the convenience factor and hardly any discernable difference in the ride. One exception is watching more carefully for potholes as the smaller wheels sink easier. Usage: It goes everywhere with me. Folds into shopping carts, pulls my Burley Travoy loaded down, is now at a weight that is super easy to carry when I go into shops or go up stairs. Maintenance: Using squirt wax lube means no grease marks on me or clothing, just add every 150 miles or so, no cleaning required. Tires are Kojaks which came with bike last August; zero flats. Been extremely happy with them, none of my concerns about slicks were realized. Gearing: you can go Alfine up to 11 gears or even do a 1x10 set up by BF! Just tell them what you want. When I asked about a different rear der, they suggested the 1x10 but for my use it was overkill. Biggest difference between BF and Brompton is the large number of choices you get with a BF. Finally, let's go back to WEIGHT. Depending on what you want to spend and how you configure it, you can get a Pakit down to 15lbs (single speed) or around 18lbs for multi-speed. That is substantially lighter than the 6 speed Brompton and you get better gearing. Price: starting around $1000, but expect to come out at around $1700-1800 for a nice lightweight configuration. There is a price configurator on their page, but off-page modifications will change that. I can't tell you how amazing it is to me to lift, carry, and ride such a light bike! Fold: as fast as the bromtpon for the quick fold, not as small in length but narrower. Any other ? let me know =).

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Excellent info! I knew all that as it was coming together, but it's helpful to have it all summarized after-the-fact with equipment and ride reviews. I'll holler if I decide to order. Thanks!
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Bike Friday's unique H bar has a Tube Bar end welded to a flat bar..
with that Bar End Shifters go in the back, and brake lever on the front..

Made for their Travel Bikes, To Pack, they Split into 2 sections
so not the lightest, because 3 layers of tubing are used
to insure no weakness issues on the road..

Stem faceplate has a bolt in the center, so 2 bar parts automatically
center on either side of it..




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Old 09-18-18, 01:01 PM
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I don't know anyone who got H bars on their Pakit. Because of the way the Pakit stem mast and bars attach to the frame for folding, it would just make it much more
difficult a fit. The H bars are great for touring but the Pakit is not (per Bike Friday) designed as a touring bike although credit card touring works. The Pakit has limited carry capacity.
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I reused the Split MTB Bars on my Tikit, because They Were Here,

and I used Trekking bars on my Pocket Llama, instead of them or the *H bar..

Have a Grip shifter on both, so the 7/8" 22.2mm Tubing is useful on both Bars,
* got a credit shipping mine back to Green Gear..
Ergon Bar end/grips are more comfortable than their H bar IMO.



I don't know anyone who got H bars on their Pakit.
How would you ?, you don't work in the company building up the bikes,
before shipping
or know all the owners around the globe, and how they may choose
to change their bikes once they own them,

Nor would I Expect you to.. other than this forum , how many is that?






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I'm not clear how H Bars came up in this thread. It's not a thing for the PakiT as the bike folds into a dedicated backpack without separating the bars. As Linberl says, I've seen a lot of pics of PakiTs and most have a standard flat bar. I've seen a couple with bullhorns.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
I reused the Split MTB Bars on my Tikit, because They Were Here,

and I used Trekking bars on my Pocket Llama, instead of them or the *H bar..

Have a Grip shifter on both, so the 7/8" 22.2mm Tubing is useful on both Bars,
* got a credit shipping mine back to Green Gear..
Ergon Bar end/grips are more comfortable than their H bar IMO.





How would you ?, you don't work in the company building up the bikes,
before shipping
or know all the owners around the globe, and how they may choose
to change their bikes once they own them,

Nor would I Expect you to.. other than this forum , how many is that?






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Your tikit nor your other BF bikes attach the bars and stem the way the Pakit does. They are not relevant to this conversation. In order to fold H bars on a pakit, the bar width would have to be cut down even more from what is already a VERY narrow bar. They'd have to lop off at least an inch on each end to allow it to fit properly in the folded position. I think the flat bar is already only 480mm so that would mean around 430mm of handlebar. Thanks, but no thanks.
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close up pictures required...

this deal only apply to PakIts?
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close up pictures required...

this deal only apply to PakIts?
The discount only applies to Oregon residents. The deal for everyone is 18% off for December delivery, 20% off January. All models.
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First ride and a pic. PakiT is definitely lighter than my Brompton S6L. It's a lively ride which is fun, but also less secure than the Brom through the bars and steerer: the connection from rider to front tire contact patch feels a little noodly. Not a problem, just different.

The kickstand feature when folding the rear wheel under is nice, but I'm a little annoyed that there's no way to keep the bike together when lifting it. Not a deal breaker for me because I'm not commuting, but it would be a problem if I was hauling it on buses or trains.

Is it in the same category as Brompton? No. They share a wheel size, but PakiT is much more like traditional Bike Fridays in that the rear folds under, then you gotta figure out what to do with the seat and steering posts. The one unique feature is the hole in the frame for the steering post to slide into, so it's a little easier to quick-pack than, say, a New World Tourist.

I like it as a light "go for a ride" bike that uses a normal road bike drivetrain. I'll probably put the same wider riser bars on that I put on the Brompton. Check it out!
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First ride and a pic. PakiT is definitely lighter than my Brompton S6L. It's a lively ride which is fun, but also less secure than the Brom through the bars and steerer: the connection from rider to front tire contact patch feels a little noodly. Not a problem, just different.

The kickstand feature when folding the rear wheel under is nice, but I'm a little annoyed that there's no way to keep the bike together when lifting it. Not a deal breaker for me because I'm not commuting, but it would be a problem if I was hauling it on buses or trains.

Is it in the same category as Brompton? No. They share a wheel size, but PakiT is much more like traditional Bike Fridays in that the rear folds under, then you gotta figure out what to do with the seat and steering posts. The one unique feature is the hole in the frame for the steering post to slide into, so it's a little easier to quick-pack than, say, a New World Tourist.

I like it as a light "go for a ride" bike that uses a normal road bike drivetrain. I'll probably put the same wider riser bars on that I put on the Brompton. Check it out!
Hate to ask, but which would you rather have if you could only have one? I've been debating between both but I fear that the Brompton just wouldn't be able to stand up to many of the hills in the Bay Area without serious modification or extra money put into it.
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BCATC:
My answer is Brompton because I really appreciate the compact, quick and secure fold. But I don't live in SF, I'm in slightly less hilly Marin County. I think my Brom would be fine on big hills with a smaller front chainring, but the PakiT would be easier to get super-low gearing if you use the derailleur/cassette model I have, plus it's a lighter bike. So basically you have to decide how important Brompton's magic fold is cuz PakiT is the better climber.
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Have a Tikit, with a front rack, same 349 wheel, short trail,
when I put weight in panniers on the front all quick squirrely feel disappears..

Same works , with front bag on the Brompton. adding mass helps..
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So yes there is a way to keep it all together.... as with the Brompton, you drop the seat post/mast. Tilt back slightly on the kickstand legs so it passes the kickstand and ends up behind it. (Hanna doesn't have the kickstand on hers but you can see how it abuts the kickstand tube). That keeps the rear wheel locked in the folded position; just close the QR again. Push the pin on the stem mast after you release the QR and simply push the mounting pin through the frame and it is all one piece, easily secured, to carry. It took me a bit of practice, but now it is very very quick, less than 30 seconds, more like 20. I'm sure you had to practice the brompton fold at first as well.

I ride with the stem angled down and I'm kinda short, so my stem mast isn't very long. No issues for me with feeling noodly. Give it time and see if you get used to it, the bike is super light and THAT did feel strange to me at first. I was whipping it along and felt a bit out of control til I had been riding a while and acclimated to the lighter weight; now I love how light it is. That may be more what you are sensing than an issue with the stem.

Nice color, I really like that blue. Before you put wider bars on, consider that wider bars will make it difficult to attach the stem/bars to the frame as they need to fit between the seat post and the head tube to attach them to the frame easily.

Congrats and post again after you ride a bit more =)

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Ah, ok, I missed the step about dropping the post behind the kickstand bit.

I'm aware of the bar issue but I don't plan on using the full fold with mast on frame very often. It looks like I have some room to slide the pin up and down on the mast, plus the bars will have some rise, so I should be able to finagle it to clear the saddle. It's going to have to work cuz the stock bars are WAY too narrow for me.

I agree about the lightness. Like I said, it's just different. I really like the overall light, zippy feeling to the bike, which is primarily what I bought it for.
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Ah, ok, I missed the step about dropping the post behind the kickstand bit.

I'm aware of the bar issue but I don't plan on using the full fold with mast on frame very often. It looks like I have some room to slide the pin up and down on the mast, plus the bars will have some rise, so I should be able to finagle it to clear the saddle. It's going to have to work cuz the stock bars are WAY too narrow for me.

I agree about the lightness. Like I said, it's just different. I really like the overall light, zippy feeling to the bike, which is primarily what I bought it for.
There's some room to move the stem pin but if you go to far down, the weight of the bars will flop it over. Brake lever angle can impact the attachment as well. Don't toss the narrower stock bar - after you've ridden the bike and gotten acclimated, you may (or may not) find the narrower bars really suit it.
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There's some room to move the stem pin but if you go to far down, the weight of the bars will flop it over. Brake lever angle can impact the attachment as well. Don't toss the narrower stock bar - after you've ridden the bike and gotten acclimated, you may (or may not) find the narrower bars really suit it.
I hear ya, I kept the stock Brommie bars just in case, too. And to reiterate to the other person who asked, all my comments are based on one ride on a brand new bike. Stay tuned!
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I hear ya, I kept the stock Brommie bars just in case, too. And to reiterate to the other person who asked, all my comments are based on one ride on a brand new bike. Stay tuned!
Keep riding and posting =). I think it took me close to two weeks to become "one" with the bike and not notice either the small wheels or the incredible lightness while riding. With your brompton background, it would probably be faster for you, but the light weight definitely requires time to adjust. I'd be worried with wider bars about oversteering as it is super responsive at sub 20 lbs. Let me know what you experience and have fun!
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Day 2, rode for about an hour. The PakiT felt more stable today, and hoo boy do I like having normal shifting (trigger) with a derailleur and cassette. The bike is so light with this drivetrain, I can't imagine loading it down with the IGH that one model comes with. I'll bet the singlespeed is light as a feather!

The stock bars suuuuck. I was going to order the riser bar that I put on my Brompton, but now I'm going full experimental. I have a nice shiney Nitto threadless stem that'll fit (much longer than the stock one) so I ordered a Nitto Albatross 3-speed style bar from Rivendell. The reach-back will probably need a bit of chopping with my trusty pipe-cutter, so that'll be an interesting project. Stay tuned!
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Day 2, rode for about an hour. The PakiT felt more stable today, and hoo boy do I like having normal shifting (trigger) with a derailleur and cassette. The bike is so light with this drivetrain, I can't imagine loading it down with the IGH that one model comes with. I'll bet the singlespeed is light as a feather!

The stock bars suuuuck. I was going to order the riser bar that I put on my Brompton, but now I'm going full experimental. I have a nice shiney Nitto threadless stem that'll fit (much longer than the stock one) so I ordered a Nitto Albatross 3-speed style bar from Rivendell. The reach-back will probably need a bit of chopping with my trusty pipe-cutter, so that'll be an interesting project. Stay tuned!
Hehe, I tried my Nitto All Rounder bars with it (narrower but similar to albatross bars). It was interesting. I didn't hate it, but it was more like driving than riding - not at all like that on my NWT. Also, turned out to be a pita to lock the bars in place for folding, but you said that wasn't something you would do much. Will be interested to see how you like the swept back bars. For me, I found the bike less balanced. And, yeah, I know they sell a lot of IGH/belt drive units but I love the light weight. The single speed can be as little as 15 pountds!!!!!
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