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Old 01-20-19, 10:57 PM
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Rinko bike

I wanted to ask if anyone here has put together a Rinko bike. Sorry if this is not technically considered a folding bike, but I thought someone here might have an idea.
I'm wondering what parts people would consider the most useful, what brands they have used, and what has given the most desirable results.
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Old 01-21-19, 06:28 AM
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Errrrm I'm not sure what you're asking here.

In Japanese, "rinko" just means "traveling with one's bike using public transportation". The bike has to be in a bag in Japan, but any bike that can be squeezed into a bag qualifies as a "rinko bike". I do fairly often with my Dahon and Tern bikes.
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Old 01-21-19, 07:15 AM
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You will find many threads on the rinko system at the internet-bob list,e.g. here.
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Rinko, from Japan

Vintage Bike Quarterly subscribers https://www.bikequarterly.com/ Jan Heine, publisher and Bike stuff importer promoter and seller,
has displaced Riv Bike's Grant Peterson as guiding light, to follow..

Regular bikes , big wheels . made to come apart and go into a bag , to use Japan's Bullet trains to go for a ride in the countryside.
Bag size regulated by Japan rail requirements..

Actual folding bikes pass without all the dismantling..






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Old 01-22-19, 07:09 AM
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Any train, not only the bullet train.
Most guys/gals I see doing "rinko" only remove the front wheel.




Sometimes the don't even remove the front wheel!
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Old 01-22-19, 11:39 AM
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this is the folding bike section after all ...

OK still rather unwieldy in comparison with a Bike Friday or Brompton. or other real folders..

You came to a folding bike section , with promoting a non folding bike just to argue?






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Old 01-22-19, 04:46 PM
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I dunno, the guys I see seem to wield their sub 7kg road bikes with ease despite the size. I'd say easier to wield than a plus 12kg folder, regardless of how small the fold is.
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Old 01-22-19, 05:31 PM
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Seattle is where Compass Cycles Is Located , and publisher of quarterly glossy , can go to Japan and come back & sell his subscribers on it.. Id talk to them..

they follow his leas and buy his atuff


now back to folding bikes ...


might be appropriate to shift your topic to another section .. https://www.bikeforums.net/long-dist...rance-cycling/






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Look at the Montague folding bikes. They're exactly like the bikes this thread is referring to. All that's needed is the carry bag.
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being so weight conscious build one like this guy Full titanium Brompton clone, now done (pics)

5.84kg, without the bag weight.

Or a Ti Swift based design.. also from custom Chinese sources..
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
You came to a folding bike section , with promoting a non folding bike just to argue?
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No, Iím here to discuss rinko cycling, which is what the OP posted about. Forums are for discussion, right?

I live in japan, do rinko cycling, and see lots of other cyclists doing rinko cycling. Figured the thread could benefit from some first hand experience
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Originally Posted by jonmanjiro View Post


No, Iím here to discuss rinko cycling, which is what the OP posted about. Forums are for discussion, right?

I live in japan, do rinko cycling, and see lots of other cyclists doing rinko cycling. Figured the thread could benefit from some first hand experience
Please continue to enjoy this section, and feel free to post about rinko cycling.
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Originally Posted by jonmanjiro View Post


No, Iím here to discuss rinko cycling, which is what the OP posted about. Forums are for discussion, right?

I live in japan, do rinko cycling, and see lots of other cyclists doing rinko cycling. Figured the thread could benefit from some first hand experience
Rinko (like Moulton) has the same goal as folding bikes.
So it's certainly appropriate here. And it's interesting.
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Old 01-23-19, 04:50 AM
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rinko bike is about trqnsportation in public mass transport.
its not even about bikes(with is just another bag you are carring).
Move topic!
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To answer the initial question, no I have not put together a Rinko bike. But if I did, one feature I would seriously consider is the MKS EZY pedals. Carrying around a bike with pedals attached can be a hassle, the EZY pedals have a quick release so you can remove them without tools. I use those pedals on my folding bike. But when you remove them, you need a place to put them so that would be something to consider.
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Originally Posted by jonmanjiro View Post
I dunno, the guys I see seem to wield their sub 7kg road bikes with ease despite the size. I'd say easier to wield than a plus 12kg folder, regardless of how small the fold is.

4.405 kg



4.64kg


Why don't wield a sub-5kg folder instead?
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Old 01-27-19, 01:47 AM
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4.405 kg



4.64kg


Why don't wield a sub-5kg folder instead?
Sure, where can I buy a new one?
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Welder? looks like carbon fiber composite to me ,

you're the one with the high paying job that has you living there..



I haven't been in the SF bay area since my father's memorial service..





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Just pay Raxel 10k to assemble you one.

Back to Rinko culture.
I had never heard of it before, but am not surprised...it being Japan. Any blogs?

Actually, I thought Rinko would be a cute name for a puppy.
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Buy a Subscription to bicycle quarterly ... https://www.instagram.com/bikequarterly/ . Yet?





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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Welder? looks like carbon fiber composite to me ,
you're the one with the high paying job that has you living there..
Those are not mine... if I could afford those build I'd rather get a stainless steel Moulton instead.

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Sure, where can I buy a new one?
AFAIK the frame and handlepost are hand made by a carbon expert in Korea... not sure he's still making new ones.
And other parts are pretty common lightweight stuff (Schmolke, THM, Extralite, Dash etc)

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Just pay Raxel 10k to assemble you one.
Unfortunately I think those extreme builds cost significantly more than $10K.
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Originally Posted by Raxel View Post

4.405 kg



4.64kg


Why don't wield a sub-5kg folder instead?
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Unfortunately I think those extreme builds cost significantly more than $10K.
More than $10K??? Hardly a realistic solution.
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I have that Montbell rinko bag and love it. Itís about the size and shape of a water bottle so I just store it in one of my Four Cornersí bottle holders. Takin off and putting on the front wheel (with disk brakes) is fast and easy. The wheel is then strapped to the frame and covered. Carrying the bike is easier than youíd think because it is balanced nicely and has shoulder strap.

It can be a hassle if train is very crowded though.

Rinko-ing is very much a Japan thing I suppose because of the great train system- and the rules about covering the bike.
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Velo-Orange had an article about it once upon a time: https://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2006/08/rinko.html with more info here: Using Bikebags
And they used to sell a headset that was made to make it possible to quickly remove the handlebar and fork for more compact packing of the bike into a rinko bag. https://velo-orange.blogspot.com/201...ts-arrive.html
The headset is no longer in stock as far as I can tell. I have considered the idea of a mini-velo with some quick-release parts like that for easy packing/unpacking. Might not be as convenient as a folding bike for daily use, but for occasional travel it could be handy, especially if you could squeeze it into non-oversized luggage.

I would love some kind of quick-release, tool free way to remove my handlebars on my folding bike. Currently I use flat bars only because they fold better, and to get a decent fold with anything else requires loosening the handlebars to rotate them.
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I would love some kind of quick-release, tool free way to remove my handlebars on my folding bike. Currently I use flat bars only because they fold better, and to get a decent fold with anything else requires loosening the handlebars to rotate them.
I have drop bars on my folding bike. And that bike uses a normal type of threadless stem for a 1 1/8 inch steerer tube. I use an adjustable stem on that bike. Some times when I expect to be frequently folding my bike, I put a quick release on the stem instead of the single bolt that was used to set the angle of the adjustable stem, I think the quick release came from a seat post quick release, as both that and the stem bolt were M6 thread.

It does not enable me to remove the bars without tools, but it does let me fold my handlebars down into a lower position when I fold the bike.

The only good photo I have is from above, not from the side. But if you were to use the same sort of setup, you would be doing so at your own risk, you really would not want to bump the quick release lever too hard while riding. I used this bike for a week long van supported camping trip, but since I did not expect to fold the bike for a week, I used a regular bolt instead of the quick release for that trip.

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