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Old 02-05-19, 06:31 PM
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Who loves ya baby , Brompton touring on Kojak's ?

They're listed as touring tires on Schwalbe's website , but I understand they're less puncture resistant than the Marathon Racer .
Anyone touring on the Kojak ?
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Old 02-06-19, 01:24 AM
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i also use kojaks on touring bromptons.
for extra puncture resistance i aways build my tyres with mr tuffy
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i also use kojaks on touring bromptons.
for extra puncture resistance i aways build my tyres with mr tuffy
That's overkill for me. Punctures in my experience are haphazard, and, in fact, I've had just as many with the heavy duty Schwalbes as with the distinctly lightweight Mavics on my touring bike. Besides, I've got changing the rear tyre down to 5 minutes or so (haven't timed it, life's too short) on the Brompton. Always carry 3 spare tubes, by the way.
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Over the winter I installed Kojaks on my Dahon. I'm seriously considering also installing tire whipers.

If you are unfamiliar they were used on vintage road bikes running tubular tires back in the day. The theory is they will knock loose bits of glass and sharp stones before they can become fully imbedded in the tire and puncture the tube. I have a set on my '71 Schwinn Paramount which wears Schwalbe One tubular tires.





I'll need to figure out how to mount them a bit lower on the Dahon. Fortunately there is plenty of room under the fork. They are sold here and are made on Cape Cod by a very active BF member in Classic and Vintage, @rootboy .
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Folding bead? bring extras.. problem solved...

My last 349 tire buy was Primo Comet, another slick tire, steel brad .


I live where touring riders come to.. do some.
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Originally Posted by pakeboi View Post
They're listed as touring tires on Schwalbe's website , but I understand they're less puncture resistant than the Marathon Racer.
When touring, speed is not an issue. Otherwise, we'd just ride a train or a bus.

Stick to Marathon Plus tires.

Here's what tire liners did to me, more than once, until I finally figured it out:
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When touring, speed is not an issue. Otherwise, we'd just ride a train or a bus.

Stick to Marathon Plus tires.

Here's what tire liners did to me, more than once, until I finally figured it out:
WOW! That's some serious tire damage. Any idea how it happened?
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Looks more like a panic skid stop ..
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WOW! That's some serious tire damage. Any idea how it happened?
With the liner rubbing against the tire.

It happened on the front wheel as well, on the side.

I had to cut the liner to fill the hole and prevent the tire from blowing out, and riding with a lower pressure. Thankfully, it was only a couple of days from the end of the trip. 349 tires are only available in major cities, where Brompton retailers can be found.

Get Marathon Plus tires, even though they're heavier than Kojaks.
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With the liner rubbing against the tire.

It happened on the front wheel as well, on the side.

I had to cut the liner to fill the hole and prevent the tire from blowing out, and riding with a lower pressure. Thankfully, it was only a couple of days from the end of the trip. 349 tires are only available in major cities, where Brompton retailers can be found.

Get Marathon Plus tires, even though they're heavier than Kojaks.
Hmm, maybe just avoiding tire liners is a more simple approach? In the end your problems were caused by the tire liners that were supposed to avoid problems... Judging from your picture it seems as if you even had M+ tires and liners at the same time? If that was the case it seems like an overdose to me... I avoid M+ completely and Marathons for the most part (using them as winter tires when studded tires are not necessary). I would consider Marathons as touring tires if I would go on a very long unsupported trip far from civilization (or better said Brompton dealers or post offices). Else I use the Kojak (having a spare one with me on longer trips as well as a couple of tubes - still lighter than M+ and more fun to ride) or sometimes Brompton tires. Never had a problem, but obviously a puncture from time to time with the Kojak. Nothing that bothers me. The M Racer may be worth a try in the meantime.
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Old 02-08-19, 08:04 AM
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Yes, that's what I did after suffering those issues.

Since they're a PITA to install/remove — even worse when the puncture occurs on the rear wheel on a Brompton —, I simply wanted to make the Marathon Plus even more puncture proof :-)
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[QUOTE]The M Racer may be worth a try in the meantime./QUOTE]

Kojaks worth it over the M Racer ?
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In anticipation of a fall trip to Albuquerque, the goat head capital of the world, I had the LBS apply a tubeless tire sealant, like Stan's to my marathon tubes. Worked like magic... I didn't pick up a single goathead but I have had no flats since. In a couple of years I will replace the tubes since the sealant can dry up. Would be nice to haveca wider selection of 349 tires, though.
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