Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Folding Bikes
Reload this Page >

Dahon K3 Plus KAA693 16" wheels 9 speed disc brake

Notices
Folding Bikes Discuss the unique features and issues of folding bikes. Also a great place to learn what folding bike will work best for your needs.

Dahon K3 Plus KAA693 16" wheels 9 speed disc brake

Old 02-18-20, 11:02 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,071
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 354 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 124 Times in 92 Posts
Dahon K3 Plus KAA693 16" wheels 9 speed disc brake

I was looking at the K3 on Google and found the K3 plus KAA693, which is a 16" version with disc brake and 9 speed freehub.
Around $550. Looks really nice. Only 10kg.

facebook com/680436348651286/posts/3126431230718440/
New page https://www.dahon.com.hk/products/da...bike-kaa693-16

It seems to even cheaper on Chinese websites, although I can't believe it, $400:
https://item.jd.com/100006092549.html
  • One thing I would have preferred is more spokes. It looks like 24/20
  • There is a threaded hole on the rear for I guess mudguard, which probably could fit a rear rack, but you'd have to double the mudguard stay and rear rack on the same hole. There is a center hole between the seatstays for the mudguard bolt, which I guess you could add a bracket adapter to attach the rear rack top stays.
  • No truss luggage mount on the head tube
  • Seems they folded the handlebar stem to the outside this time. The 14" version has it folding to the inside.
  • Comes with 24mm integrated spindle crank.
  • You could probably swap the cassette to 10 speed 11-42T with Shimano Zee RD. You could fit a MTB 11 speed cassette, but I don't know if there are 11 speed RDs with cages short enough to clear the ground with 16" wheels.
K3 Plus 16 inch version with 9 speed disc brake hollow chain
Walking the inner line aluminum alloy frame, Abalone with heat disc leather
The outside design of the front column is more solid after fold
the first batch has arrived, come to the market and see!
Kaa693-16 "
Band: 9 speed disc brake
Car Frame: Aluminum Alloy
Size: 62 x 68 x 45 cm
Weight: 9.8 kg
Color: Black and white, Black Red, Black Yellow, black and blue

Retail Price: Hkd4,180








Last edited by tomtomtom123; 02-22-20 at 01:14 PM.
tomtomtom123 is offline  
Likes For tomtomtom123:
Old 02-18-20, 11:28 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,071
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 354 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 124 Times in 92 Posts
I guess it's similar to their already existing models, Mu SL D9 PAA693 10kg, SRA682 11kg, Curve D7 PJA672 12kg
https://www.dahon.com.hk/products/da...ng-bike-paa693
https://www.dahon.com.hk/products/da...sra682-16-8spd
https://www.dahon.com.hk/products/dahon-curve-d7-pja672

And the Visc SL with Capreo cassettes:
https://usa.dahon.com/bikes/visc-sl/
https://www.thorusa.com/dahon/current/viscsl9.htm

Last edited by tomtomtom123; 02-18-20 at 11:46 AM.
tomtomtom123 is offline  
Likes For tomtomtom123:
Old 02-18-20, 11:34 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,071
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 354 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 124 Times in 92 Posts
What's the longest RD cage you can fit on 16" wheels? I don't supposed a normal GS cage would clear the ground? Id be interested in making a double, but there probably isn't ground clearance to make a longer cage work.

The Shimano Zee RD is supposed to be for 11-36T, meaning 25T chain wrap capacity, but there are threads saying that it works on 42T max cog on a fixed frame, as the smaller specs are meant to include rear suspension frames. So if you can use 11-42T, that would be a 31T chain wrap capacity.

Last edited by tomtomtom123; 02-18-20 at 11:42 AM.
tomtomtom123 is offline  
Old 02-18-20, 05:04 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
3speedslow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 9,361

Bikes: A few

Mentioned: 117 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1950 Post(s)
Liked 1,096 Times in 649 Posts
I guess there is no carrying a bag on the front for this Dahon. It does look spiffy! I would not mind taking it for a spin.
3speedslow is offline  
Likes For 3speedslow:
Old 03-10-20, 01:21 AM
  #5  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Paris
Posts: 23

Bikes: 2019 Dahon K3 and an old Road Bicycle

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
is the chainring 58T ?
it would make sense with the 9 sprockets cogset ...
(the "regular" K3 has a 53T chainring)

(I've just noticed a 14inch fnhon with a 58T chainring : https://www.facebook.com/groups/dahon...6000585404903/ )
pierro78 is offline  
Old 04-03-21, 12:37 PM
  #6  
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
It seems to be available from aliexpress. It won't be imported by the European dealers.
thomash is offline  
Old 08-16-21, 08:16 AM
  #7  
TsQ
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I've been riding the K3+ here in Singapore for almost 3 months and have clocked easily 1000km so far, it is a very good urban commuting bike due to the small 16" 305 wheel and a good crankset size of 55T. I change it to 58T for easier longer distance cycling.

Here is a photo comparing it with a BrompNOT (It's a 3Sixty) : ibb.co/p05LL1r (Pls add "https ://" in front)

As you can see, K3+ is longer by the width from the handle grip on the right, so that's a 3" extra. K3+ is also wider due to the outwards folding of the handlebar. Overall it is not as compact as Brompton (or the replicas) but it is negligible. The weight of 9.x KG makes the ride very agile for crowded urban areas or around pedestrian walkways. When you cannot ride over, just pick it up and carry it.
TsQ is offline  
Old 09-29-21, 09:49 AM
  #8  
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: USA
Posts: 12
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Any USA folks who have purchased from overseas....how does customs work? When its held and you have to pay the customs fee, is it over the phone or email, or a U.S. customs website, thanks for the help.
bikeforumKEN is offline  
Old 09-30-21, 07:33 AM
  #9  
tcs
Palmer
 
tcs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 8,678

Bikes: Mike Melton custom, Alex Moulton AM, Dahon Curl

Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1701 Post(s)
Liked 1,876 Times in 1,085 Posts
A certain website of a fellow who might have something to do with the distribution of Dahons in the USA (or he might not) but I don't want to mention by name so I don't get banned from this forum for life perhaps has the K3+ (and do note the K3+ model is quite different from the non + model) offered at the stunning price of $1499USD. I like Dahons and I like the K3/K3+, but !
tcs is offline  
Old 09-30-21, 08:09 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Winfried's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 2,505
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 576 Post(s)
Liked 119 Times in 100 Posts
Out of curiosity, I asked Dahon the other day about when the K3 PLUS would be available over here: "At present we do not have the K3 plus available in the European market, if you like, please contact our Germany distributor BBF to buy other models instead."
Winfried is offline  
Old 09-30-21, 10:03 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,709

Bikes: Trek 730 (quad), 720 & 830, Bike Friday NWT, Brompton M36R & M6R, Dahon HAT060 & HT060, ...

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 840 Post(s)
Liked 337 Times in 252 Posts
When I bought our Dahons in China, there were number of quality issues there that would not have been tolerated in the US market. I do not regret the purchases, but keep in mind that quality controls can be different for different markets, under the same brand name.
2_i is offline  
Old 10-17-21, 03:45 PM
  #12  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 147
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 75 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 22 Times in 18 Posts
Do you think you could get some 2 inch plus tires on the K3? Love to see small wheels with large tires. May not be fast but so cool looking.
Pahana is offline  
Old 10-18-21, 08:10 AM
  #13  
Marcus86
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
My goodness , do you know how cheap k3 plus is in the China / Asian Market.. Goodness, the price that Dahon US is selling at least 50% more for what they sold in Asia.. Goodness, I would rather get one of your Dahon 20" sia.. It is so damn Cheap.. Do you know how painful for me to Convert my Dahon MuSl D9 , 16 inch 305 wheel to a 349 wheel just because I wanted a bigger wheel and the best part is , the Western Market for 20" are dirt cheap.. What the fish....
Marcus86 is offline  
Old 11-09-23, 08:42 AM
  #14  
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: NYC
Posts: 15

Bikes: Brompton M9R, Change df702

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by bikeforumKEN
Any USA folks who have purchased from overseas....how does customs work? When its held and you have to pay the customs fee, is it over the phone or email, or a U.S. customs website, thanks for the help.
It's from the shipping company. They will send you a bill before they release/deliver the goods. BTW I know I'm years late were you able to get a K3?
biosync is offline  
Old 11-09-23, 07:41 PM
  #15  
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: USA
Posts: 12
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by biosync
It's from the shipping company. They will send you a bill before they release/deliver the goods. BTW I know I'm years late were you able to get a K3?
No, I havent found... or dont know of a reputable singapore dealer and the risk of fraud. Appreciate the reply.
bikeforumKEN is offline  
Old 11-10-23, 07:59 AM
  #16  
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: NYC
Posts: 15

Bikes: Brompton M9R, Change df702

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by bikeforumKEN
No, I havent found... or dont know of a reputable singapore dealer and the risk of fraud. Appreciate the reply.
Ahhh got it! No worries! It is currently on sale on the Dahon website it is down to 999 usd, still expensive compared to the Asian pricing.
biosync is offline  
Likes For biosync:
Old 11-23-23, 08:41 AM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Winfried's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 2,505
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 576 Post(s)
Liked 119 Times in 100 Posts
So apparently, the plain, original K3 (KAA433) had 14" wheels and v-brakes, while the K3 Plus (KAA639) has 16" wheels and disk brakes.

Since it has a 135mm OLD, what about replacing the derailleur with a Shimano Nexus/Alfine 8 gear hub, and possibly the chain with a belt?
Winfried is offline  
Likes For Winfried:
Old 11-23-23, 04:43 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: The Ring of Fire
Posts: 1,017
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 507 Post(s)
Liked 613 Times in 389 Posts
Might as well -- or even better, I'd say -- just buy a FnHon frameset and build the bike yourself, if you have access to the Asian market. For the same money, perhaps even less, you'll end up with a bike with much better components and with the exact parts want. 100/135mm OLD on these quality FnHon Zephyr disc framesets that sell for under $150 (handlepost included).


​​​​

​​​​​​
Or a Litepro Eno disc frameset which sell for under $120 (handlepost included). 100/135mm OLD too.



Something like this FnHon Gust 16" can be built with much better parts and components than a Dahon K3 Plus for under $600.

As I've said before, these complete Dahon bikes have long become uncompetitive in the face of all manner (steel or aluminium alloy, rim or disc brake) of good, affordable Litepro and FnHon framesets. And you need not build them yourself. Tell a shop what your want and they'll build it for you.

Last edited by Ron Damon; 02-24-24 at 05:37 PM.
Ron Damon is offline  
Likes For Ron Damon:
Old 11-23-23, 05:38 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: The Ring of Fire
Posts: 1,017
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 507 Post(s)
Liked 613 Times in 389 Posts
Originally Posted by Winfried
So apparently, the plain, original K3 (KAA433) had 14" wheels and v-brakes, while the K3 Plus (KAA639) has 16" wheels and disk brakes.

...
Seeing that the K3 and K3 Plus use the same frame, the following question emerges: what is the max tire size on the K3 Plus?

Here, there are frames (e.g. Fnhon Freedom, Tornado Mini) made for 14" wheels that people build with 16" wheels (305) with the limitation of max tire width of no more than 16x1.50, as narrow as 16x1.35 in some cases. I don't suppose Dahon designed two different frames for the two models. Does the K3 Plus suffer from that 305 tire limitation? Having ridden 305ers for a few years across a gamut of terrains, I wouldn't want to ride one with tires narrower than 47-305 (1.85"), and my 305 daily driver today carries Schwalbe Big Apple 50-305 (2.0") boots with plenty of clearance still.



Unlike the K3, a FnHon Gust 16", for example, will take a 16x2.125" (57-305) tire and still have plenty of clearance. In fact it'll take up to 37-349.

I haven't yet figured out why folks build these bikes on frames designed for 14" wheels with 16" wheels, riddled with severe limitations on tire size when for the same money they can build (or buy a complete) a bike that takes all sizes of 305 and 349 wheels and tires. Ditto for the Dahon K3 Plus.

Last edited by Ron Damon; 12-09-23 at 06:12 PM.
Ron Damon is offline  
Likes For Ron Damon:
Old 11-23-23, 08:41 PM
  #20  
tcs
Palmer
 
tcs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 8,678

Bikes: Mike Melton custom, Alex Moulton AM, Dahon Curl

Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1701 Post(s)
Liked 1,876 Times in 1,085 Posts
Which "14"? ISO 298mm or ISO 254mm?
tcs is offline  
Old 11-23-23, 09:06 PM
  #21  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: The Ring of Fire
Posts: 1,017
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 507 Post(s)
Liked 613 Times in 389 Posts
Originally Posted by tcs
Which "14"? ISO 298mm or ISO 254mm?
I don't know to whom you are asking the question, but in relation to my comments it's the ISO254 size. ISO298 is essentially the same as ISI305 so it would be a non-issue.
Ron Damon is offline  
Likes For Ron Damon:
Old 11-23-23, 10:51 PM
  #22  
Senior Member
 
50PlusCycling's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,161
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 563 Post(s)
Liked 869 Times in 430 Posts
The K3 is probably the most popular folding bike in Japan right now, people here love them.
50PlusCycling is offline  
Likes For 50PlusCycling:
Old 11-24-23, 06:14 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: The Ring of Fire
Posts: 1,017
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 507 Post(s)
Liked 613 Times in 389 Posts
Originally Posted by 50PlusCycling
The K3 is probably the most popular folding bike in Japan right now, people here love them.
I spend a couple of weeks in Osaka earlier this year, and it served to further strengthen my perspective that that there are only two types of people and countries on this planet. There's Japan and the Japanese, and then there's the rest of us. For the finely manicured and supremely well maintained infrastructure, fantastic urbanism and the very unique conditions and prevailing norms of Japan, sure small wheels that max out at 40-305 might make sense. For the rest of the world, the rough-and-tumble real world, not so much. We could only wish the rest of the world were more like Japan.
Ron Damon is offline  
Likes For Ron Damon:
Old 11-24-23, 11:30 PM
  #24  
Senior Member
 
50PlusCycling's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,161
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 563 Post(s)
Liked 869 Times in 430 Posts
Originally Posted by Ron Damon
I spend a couple of weeks in Osaka earlier this year, and it served to further strengthen my perspective that that there are only two types of people and countries on this planet. There's Japan and the Japanese, and then there's the rest of us. For the finely manicured and supremely well maintained infrastructure, fantastic urbanism and the very unique conditions and prevailing norms of Japan, sure small wheels that max out at 40-305 might make sense. For the rest of the world, the rough-and-tumble real world, not so much. We could only wish the rest of the world were more like Japan.
I enjoyed a brief vacation in Japan some 20 years ago, and within a couple of hours I decided it was where I wanted to live. It took two years to settle affairs, and make the arrangements to move, find a job, and then I bought a one-way ticket. While living in Japan is a lot different than visiting for pleasure or business, and there are things I miss about living in America (good pizza, for one), I have no regrets.
50PlusCycling is offline  
Old 12-09-23, 06:17 PM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: The Ring of Fire
Posts: 1,017
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 507 Post(s)
Liked 613 Times in 389 Posts
Originally Posted by Pahana
Do you think you could get some 2 inch plus tires on the K3? Love to see small wheels with large tires. May not be fast but so cool looking.
Like this?


2.125" meat


Last edited by Ron Damon; 12-14-23 at 05:26 AM.
Ron Damon is offline  
Likes For Ron Damon:

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.