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Old 06-25-20, 06:16 AM
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(Above) The stock rim was black, so I wet sanded it and finished it with a maroon Scotchbrite pad...

The front hub is a narrow Phil...

The new tires are Schwalbe Marathon Racer...

Wheels built by Cory Thompson...

New brakes: Box Three with Cool Stop Salmon pads...

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(Above) The stock drivetrain was just ok... '

I had a lightly used Campy Chorus crankset that I paired with a new sealed bearing bottom bracket...

The chainwheel is 53 teeth...

The stock rear derailleur was replaced with an 80's era Campy Record...

The stock hub is now a sealed bearing unit...

The existing 8 Speed gearing was changed to 9 speed, 12 - 26 teeth...

The pedal are dual purpose, flat and SPD cleared...

Rim, tires, brakes and spokes are similar to the front wheel...

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(above) The changes really made a difference...
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(above) The carbon fiber bar, brake levers, grips and Cinelli aero bar were things I already had that needed a new home...

The shift lever is a SunRace friction shifter...

New Velo Orange cable housings...

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(above) I really like the adjustability of the folding stem...
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Old 06-25-20, 06:53 AM
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(Above) 28 miles on a 21#'er... So much fun...!!!...
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Old 06-26-20, 01:45 AM
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Lovely looking bike you have there.
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Wicked cool. Those bikes are a steal.

How about putting on a front derailleur and making it a 2x9?
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How about putting on a front derailleur and making it a 2x9?
To me, more isn't always better... I think the short chainstays with a double ring up front would be in need of constant front derailleur fine tuning... The nine speeds in back will be fine...
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Nice looking bike. You've done a ton of upgardes!

BTW, is it a Dahon derivative?
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Originally Posted by P.L.Jensen View Post
To me, more isn't always better... I think the short chainstays with a double ring up front would be in need of constant front derailleur fine tuning... The nine speeds in back will be fine...
WHAT?!?!?! More is ALWAYS better!!! Blasphemy!!!

That's probably a smart move. Getting the FD to work correctly might take a few years off your life.

However, not to split hairs or anything, I would be surprised if the chainstays on your Zizzo aren't at least as long as standard road bike chainstays. I was surprised to find that the chainstays on all of my folders are actually longer than my road bikes.

Regardless, you have a very cool bike and your upgrades look great! Enjoy it.
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This is an amazing build! I have the Librerte in Red, always looking what I can do next to improve the bike and it looks like you have a wonderful set up!
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Nice! I have a stock Liberte that's my urban/travel bike. Did 30 miles with it no problem. Fun little bike!
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We bought our EuroMini (now Zizzos) early on....2017 I believe. We got Urbanos....back then their top of the line. These darn bikes have been ridden long and hard and owe us nothing! They’ve been awesome and although we each (Missus and I) have other bicycles, the Urbanos see plenty of action and are still fun to ride. I have NO complaints re these, and have recommended them to others both in this forum, and in my “real” life.
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Have you tried to ride it with no hands? I tried on mine and it veers quite quickly to the right. I first had to shift my weight to the left side of the seat in order to do it, then I mounted my front wheel so that it tilts as much as it can in the direction of the veering and now I can ride straight. I was told by the mfg that this is normal.
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Have you tried to ride it with no hands? I tried on mine and it veers quite quickly to the right. I first had to shift my weight to the left side of the seat in order to do it, then I mounted my front wheel so that it tilts as much as it can in the direction of the veering and now I can ride straight. I was told by the mfg that this is normal.
I’m not sure the juice is worth the squeeze as they say....sounds like you’ve mounted the front wheel in a way it isn’t intended (potentially unsafe @ axle not seated into fork tangs all the way) so you can ride handsfree, but at the end of the day how important is handsfree riding on such a bike? Asking for trouble IMO but best wishes.
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My Zizzo rides predictably for a folder... Yes, they are twitchy and I learned on my first folder, a 1976 Raleigh Folder, that no hands is something I won't do...That nimbleness is also one of it's benefits, tighter turns than my 700c wheeled single bike or our tandem... Different horses for different courses... I do hope you resolve the hands free riding... I know I'd crash...
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I’m not sure the juice is worth the squeeze as they say....sounds like you’ve mounted the front wheel in a way it isn’t intended (potentially unsafe @ axle not seated into fork tangs all the way) so you can ride handsfree, but at the end of the day how important is handsfree riding on such a bike? Asking for trouble IMO but best wishes.
Its not that I insist on riding hands free, but in attempting that, I noticed it veers to the right, and the only way for it to track straight is for me to shift my weight to the left or offset the front wheel when mounted.
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Its not that I insist on riding hands free, but in attempting that, I noticed it veers to the right, and the only way for it to track straight is for me to shift my weight to the left or offset the front wheel when mounted.
I own 4 bicycles, and have a looong history of motorcycle and scooter ownership (30 years) and everyone of them has seemed to “favor a side”, either in terms of balance, or exhibited tire wear or both or a predisposition to favor one side of travel over another, even on uncrowned riding surfaces and roads. My EuroMini (now Zizzo) also favors a side and isn’t my “hands-free rider” either...sure I can do it, but it requires adjustments and attention while doing so like you have said.

By any chance are the directional tires installed incorrectly? Thats an easy thing to overlook.
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Originally Posted by FolderBeholder View Post
I own 4 bicycles, and have a looong history of motorcycle and scooter ownership (30 years) and everyone of them has seemed to “favor a side”, either in terms of balance, or exhibited tire wear or both or a predisposition to favor one side of travel over another, even on uncrowned riding surfaces and roads. My EuroMini (now Zizzo) also favors a side and isn’t my “hands-free rider” either...sure I can do it, but it requires adjustments and attention while doing so like you have said.

By any chance are the directional tires installed incorrectly? Thats an easy thing to overlook.
I did rotate the front wheel to the other side to test its dishing and ride, so rode it both ways. I have another thread where I had pictures of the fork/seatpost (seattube)/headtube alignment, and it seems the seattube/seatpost (and maybe headtube) skews to the side (with the front dropouts sitting on a flat surface). This could mean the fork is the one that is skewing to the side. Thus if I mount the front wheel skewed, it comes back into alignment with the frame.
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