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Old 03-08-07, 08:00 AM
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F'lite

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Thanks... yes, I think I've decided to go with the F'lite, since it seems many others have used it successfully for various folding bikes, and it doesn't seem to raise red flags at the airport for its size. A bonus is that it can be mounted to the Bike Friday TravelTrailer, which seems like a great solution for touring.
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Old 03-08-07, 01:44 PM
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Its here!

The big brown truck finally showed up!
Too bad I have to be at work in 15 minutes. They could've delivered it earlier, like 0700 . Oh well, I'll just take a peek inside the box for now.
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Old 03-08-07, 06:17 PM
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What's the q-factor on the VIIIH?


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If this isn't clear, I'll try again...
Perfectly clear. Thanks very much.
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Am I the only one that is disappointed with Downtube's lack of response to customers' emails? I ordered a bike from them on Monday, and I never received a tracking number -- just the fact that it was shipped. I emailed twice, and my requests have gone unanswered.

Not really a great start to a new customer
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Old 03-09-07, 03:22 PM
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They're a very small operation, sometimes that can mean a quick response to small customer base, but it can also mean, when they're "out to lunch," there isn't anybody left to answer quickly.
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Originally Posted by worker4youth
Am I the only one that is disappointed with Downtube's lack of response to customers' emails? I ordered a bike from them on Monday, and I never received a tracking number -- just the fact that it was shipped. I emailed twice, and my requests have gone unanswered.

Not really a great start to a new customer
I had the same experience when I ordered both of my DT's - I didn't even receive an email that either had shipped so it sounds like they are making some process improvements. I called on the first one after not receiving a response to my emails and did receive a call back the next day.

The good news is that Yan is very responsive if you have any problems with your bike.

Perhaps they should make a policy / process change that when they cut the shipper (UPS, etc...) they take the 90 seconds right then to dash off an email to the buyer. I know it would go along way toward customer satisfaction and it wouldn't add a significant or burdensome amount of work to their process.

And yes, I know they are a small business but this isn't a big task and, like I said, if the person does it when they have the tracking number in their hand already, it shouldn't be a big deal.
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Old 03-10-07, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by worker4youth
Am I the only one that is disappointed with Downtube's lack of response to customers' emails? I ordered a bike from them on Monday, and I never received a tracking number -- just the fact that it was shipped. I emailed twice, and my requests have gone unanswered.

Not really a great start to a new customer
In general I agree with you. On the flip side, if this is ultimately the only thing you have to complain about then it isn't much. Look on the bright side, it seems like your bike was promptly shipped. You do know its on the way. Honestly I never got a tracking number and it never really mattered to me. The bike showed up in the time Yan said. If you are REALLY concerned, you can easily get it yourself. Yan normally uses UPS and you can call and ask about the delivery coming to yourself. It may be a little inconvenient but at the price of a DT vs. the value, I'll be glad to "suffer".

Please don't think I am dismissing your concerns because I'm not. They are pretty minor though in the grand scheme of things. If I have to make the trade-off between a tracking number and responsiveness to issues, I'll take the latter. How about you? Hopefully the rest of your transaction will be smooth sailing!
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Old 03-10-07, 09:06 AM
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Ah, I'm not the only one waiting for a new DT to arrive then. I ordered a mini (my first real bike) and only got an email order confirmation so far. Given the good review here, I didn't bother to contact them, though. I'd spare that for all my newbie questions.

By the way, I found that the discount code, SALE, is no longer working.

I'd like to thank forum members for insights. After browsing this forum, I found DT mini to be a straighforward choice for me.

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Old 03-10-07, 09:56 AM
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Anyone has a link or an info on how to tune the Sturmey Archer hub?
I emailed Yan, because I'm having shifting issues, he said he'll email me a link. He hasn't come back to me yet.
Anyone? please help.

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Originally Posted by DVC45
Anyone has a link or an info on how to tune the Sturmey Archer hub?
I emailed Yan, since I'm having shifting issues, he said he'll email me a link. He hasn't come back to me yet.
Anyone? please help.
DVC45:

Here's the link to the technical manual: https://www.sturmey-archer.com/pdfs/XRF8.pdf

It has the instructions you're looking for. Pretty easy to do. Good luck!
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Thanks so much Sesame!
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Thanks so much Sesame!
You're very welcome.

If you're open to one more piece of advice - I would strongly urge you to remove the bottom bracket and grease it well. If you can't do this yourself, have the LBS do it. It's a quick job, shouldn't cost you more than $20 or so. It will be a good investment.

Happy riding!
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Old 03-11-07, 11:50 PM
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Sesame,
I think I'll just go all the way and have the crank and BB replaced. What kind and where do I buy a sealed BB for a good price? I want new items, so no surprises.
I don't want anything special (read: expensive), just a quality piece without breaking the bank.
I thought of doing this conversion myself. I'm good with tools and following direction, but I don't want to invest on something I'll only use once. So more likely, I'll have my LBS do the job.

BTW, all is well now and I truly enjoyed our first 20mi ride yesterday.

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Old 03-12-07, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DVC45
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I think I'll just go all the way and have the crank and BB replaced. What kind and where do I buy a sealed BB for a good price? I want new items, so no surprises.
I don't want anything special (read: expensive), just a quality piece without breaking the bank.
I thought of doing this conversion myself. I'm good with tools and following direction, but I don't want to invest on something I'll only use once. So more likely, I'll have my LBS do the job.

BTW, all is well now and I truly enjoyed our first 20mi ride yesterday.

Check out nashbar and performance (use the clickthrough ads on bikeforums to get them some revenue). I would get a Shimano sealed BB with octalink/isis and then a matching octalink/isis crankset (I have a tiagara double crankset at 170mm and I believe the shimano UN-71 BB at 115mm, check back for my mods many pages back in this thread). An octalink/isis crank is 100 times better than a square taper crank set as far as feel and I think overall solidity goes.
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Old 03-12-07, 07:28 AM
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I would look on Craigslist or eBay for a set of used cranks. Did you see PineCone's solution of using a 53/39 crank, and filing off the 53t to use as a chain guard?

Then go to Nashbar for a bottom bracket if it doesn't come with the cranks. The BBs are pretty cheap on Nashbar.
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Old 03-12-07, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DVC45
Sesame,
I think I'll just go all the way and have the crank and BB replaced. What kind and where do I buy a sealed BB for a good price? I want new items, so no surprises.
I don't want anything special (read: expensive), just a quality piece without breaking the bank.
I thought of doing this conversion myself. I'm good with tools and following direction, but I don't want to invest on something I'll only use once. So more likely, I'll have my LBS do the job.

BTW, all is well now and I truly enjoyed our first 20mi ride yesterday.
I bought the Shimano on eBay but you could do as well at Nashbar as stated above. The tool will cost
you another $15 or so and you will probably only use it once if this is the only bike you have. I have two
DT's so it paid off. Best bet is to take it to your LBS, as you can run into thread problems with your BB as mentioned above and they have the ability to clean or re-thread. Depending on the age of your bike,
they can be pretty stuck. ESPECIALLY due to corrosion caused by dis-similar metals. The frame is alum and
the BB that came in my bike was made out of some kind of black iron/steel. I don't think it was black
aluminum.
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Old 03-12-07, 11:01 AM
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Thanks everyone!
I will do all the mods as soon as my funds trickle in. Right now I think I'll do the BB first. I'll for sure use the link addy here. This is a great forum. I'm really glad I found you guys.
I did see Pincone's mods. That's one pretty awesome looking folder, matched only by Sesame's recumbent.
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VIIIH Mods

Just added a triple to my VIIIH. Thought I would use the 26 but tried the 34T first and found it to be great. I don't know if I will go to just a double since I added a front deraillier and might be tempted to add a lever and be able to go to the 26 on real hills. Put on a good seat. Padded the bar ends.

One problem I am encountering is to get the squeak out ot the front pads. Tried toeing in, even sanding the pads. Might try new pads or sanding the surface of the rim. Anyone else having a problem? The backs quieted down just with toeing.

Great bike. If I don't look down, it feels like i'm riding my crit bike.

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Just added a triple to my VIIIH. Thought I would use the 26 but tried the 34T first and found it to be great. ...
Well, if not me, then somebody else will always chime in for:

Pictures please!!
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Pictures please!!
Ditto!
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In my opinion, the existing cranks and bottom bracket are OK. Going down the road of upgrading them, you'll really have to juggle a lot of things like the chainline, etc. That said, if you really feel strongly, you'll have to be careful. You can't upgrade your BB and then later upgrade your cranks unless you buy square taper cranks.

On bikepartsusa, I saw some $30 carbon cranks (probably flex a bit and aren't 130mm) that have a square taper. Good luck!
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The only think I would do, incidentally, is have the wheels trued to fix the spoke tension.
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It is a 1 1/8" threaded steerer fork....the threaded steerer makes it more dificult to find replacements. Someone here swapped the threaded headset for a threadless and used a threadless fork.

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thanks yan, if i bought a 1 1/8" threadless fork and headset would i still be able to use the stock folding handle bar post?

thanks again
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If you go to DT's homepage you can see that earlier versions of the front suspension model came spec'd with fenders (check out photos). Has anyone tried to mount fenders on later versions of the front suspension model? What was your experience?
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Old 03-14-07, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by barneybarney
thanks yan, if i bought a 1 1/8" threadless fork and headset would i still be able to use the stock folding handle bar post?

thanks again
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The answer would be yes (with high probability). There may be some strange forks out on the market in which the threading starts too high on the steerer. However I would guess you should be fine.

FYI we will begin selling parts (including forks) in late April.

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