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Old 05-05-16, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by downtube
I had a little miscommunication with the factory, and I could use some advice from artistic individuals. I asked for a two tone paint and got the attached...not exactly what I intended. Is there a way to beautify this color arrangement? Maybe with decals?

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The baby blue and silver, and maybe, the yellow and black are fine as they are. I'd send the others back for a redo.
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Originally Posted by downtube
I had a little miscommunication with the factory, and I could use some advice from artistic individuals. I asked for a two tone paint and got the attached...not exactly what I intended. Is there a way to beautify this color arrangement? Maybe with decals?

Thanks,
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I think some people would like the combinations and would buy the bikes.
To beautify the bikes is better to keep it simple because the colors are already flashy enough. Something like back part decals with the front part color and front part decals with the back part color, should do the job, except for dark blue and dark grey one which most likely needs white decals.
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The distance inside to inside of the Tern holes is 2 1/2 cm. The distance from outside to outside of the holes is 3 1/2cm. Hope that helps.
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for me I will be happy with white on front half and red on the back. others like black front and yellow back is also OK, but I am not an artist after all....
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Originally Posted by downtube
I had a little miscommunication with the factory, and I could use some advice from artistic individuals. I asked for a two tone paint and got the attached...not exactly what I intended. Is there a way to beautify this color arrangement? Maybe with decals?

Thanks,
Yan

Sorry for the lateness on this question. The colors themselves seem fine, that is a personal aesthetic, in terms of WHO likes WHAT color.
My best guess is that the Dark Blue/Gray and the Bright Blue/Silver will be the most popular.

The solution to "blend" the colors on each frame (into a cohesive looking matched color combo) is fairly easy.

Example 1: Using the Dark Blue / Gray frame:
A Dark Blue "Downtube" decal placed on the Gray section -and- a Gray decal denoting model, or stripes, or a graphic on the Dark Blue section of the frame.

Example 2: Using the Bright Blue / Gray frame:
A Bright Blue "Downtube" decal placed on the Silver section -and- a Silver decal denoting model, or stripes, or a graphic on the Bright Blue section of the frame.

and so on, for the other combos.

Comment: The Dark Blue frame should have the Silver front tube, and the Bright Blue frame should have the darker Gray front tube in order that the decals to "pop" a little better.
Perhaps try a few of each, mix and match, to see how they look?

My only constructive criticism regarding the use of White on the bike frames, is that they will show splashes and road dirt quite easily.
I own a white Chevy suburban right now, and had a white Honda Accord. I like white as a color, but, perhaps in this instance transpose the white to the top tube and make the rear frames the "other" color. Again, just a personal opinion. Being truthful, open, and honest.

Last artistic thought.... sort of on a fleeting whim...... if the Seat Post tubes where painted the same color as front tube, that might look pretty slick as an accent. But I realize that probably increases paint production time and costs.

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Originally Posted by minirider
The distance inside to inside of the Tern holes is 2 1/2 cm. The distance from outside to outside of the holes is 3 1/2cm. Hope that helps.
Thank you, minirider, that does help. I had an email exchange with Yan in which he indicated that he was moving towards 30mm distance for future models, which would match the Tern. It would give us more options. Actually, it would give us options, period: I haven't found anything that fits!
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My 9fs also had some woobling in hinge, I just cut thread for conical head bolt M6, and opposite of bolt head drilled hole with little bit smaller diameter than the bolt head, now hinge has three points of stability, no more problems.
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Originally Posted by csi56
Thank you, minirider, that does help. I had an email exchange with Yan in which he indicated that he was moving towards 30mm distance for future models, which would match the Tern. It would give us more options. Actually, it would give us options, period: I haven't found anything that fits!
We are transitioning the head tube interface. Currently all new mini, 8H, Nova, and 8FS models have the new 3 bolt head tube interface that will work with Biologic bag systems. While the 9 and 9FS still have the 2 bolt interface, they should change in 2017.

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Originally Posted by photoshutter
My 9fs also had some woobling in hinge, I just cut thread for conical head bolt M6, and opposite of bolt head drilled hole with little bit smaller diameter than the bolt head, now hinge has three points of stability, no more problems.
Cool!

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Thanks Yan, 9FS is one of my best multispeed bike, mostly I have single speed My 9FS with Bloodline fork and rear 1500lb coil suspension:
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Originally Posted by photoshutter
My 9fs also had some woobling in hinge, I just cut thread for conical head bolt M6, and opposite of bolt head drilled hole with little bit smaller diameter than the bolt head, now hinge has three points of stability, no more problems.

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Originally Posted by photoshutter
Thanks Yan, 9FS is one of my best multispeed bike, mostly I have single speed My 9FS with Bloodline fork and rear 1500lb coil suspension:
Beautiful photo!

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Beautiful photo!

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Originally Posted by photoshutter
Thanks Yan, 9FS is one of my best multispeed bike, mostly I have single speed My 9FS with Bloodline fork and rear 1500lb coil suspension:
What is the name of rack on the seat post and fenders and where can i get them? Which disk brakes are those? Can you tell me how much you paid for them?
Very lovely picture and bike.

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Originally Posted by downtube
We are transitioning the head tube interface. Currently all new mini, 8H, Nova, and 8FS models have the new 3 bolt head tube interface that will work with Biologic bag systems. While the 9 and 9FS still have the 2 bolt interface, they should change in 2017.

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So this hasn't been fixed yet? I was interested in the 9FS, but may have to order the 8FS instead.
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I recall a poster on this forum made a conversion to use Biologic bag system. FYI the 9fs is much nicer than the 8fs. I don't see the headtube interface outweighing the advantages of the 9fs. I would encourage you consider the 9fs.

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Hi Yan. What about putting contrasting decals or use of stencil on the two tone frames?
Ie a white sticker on blue then a blue sticker on white. or undercoat with contrast colour then stencil out the downtube logo on each piece in a similar manner.
Great PM me and I will give you postal address for a new mini as consultancy payment.
Thanks in advance.
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SkunkWerX & bhkyte

Thanks for the advice, but I was confused for a while and decided to have most of the frames repainted. The white halves were painted the the same color as the other half, and most turned into black frames.

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Yan,

Thanks for the update. As far as colors go, by themselves, the blues (Navy and Royal?) are very sharp & appealing colors. As well, the silver and gray (light and dark silver?) also catch the eye, in my opinion.

Do you call the lighter blue "Royal" and the darker "Navy"?

I keep looking at the Blue (Navy?) Mini-B, it is calling my name. How is the final drive ratio (top end) where rubber hits the ground, when compared to a comparable 20"er?

I see the Mini with the Gates Belt Drive is using a 70 tooth ring in front and a 22t cog in rear. Is that the Gates Surefit style of cog?
And if so, I see they make a 20t Surefit, which would provide a wee bit more top end.
Your comments and/or thoughts?
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On the mini, I am used the biggest ring & smallest combo from gates ( at the time ) 70/22 the gear inches range from 22.6 to 69.2. ). On the 8H ( 20" model ) I use a 60/22 combo, the gear inches range from 26.5 to 81.2.

We use the surefit cogs, I did not know a 20T was available....thanks for the info. Please understand it takes no less than 6 months for me to get Shimano hub bikes from the order stage to the USA.

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Upon further reading, it looks like the 20t might be a CDC cog, not CDX. I think the offsets are different, so it may not allow interchangeability.
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Originally Posted by downtube
We are transitioning the head tube interface. Currently all new mini, 8H, Nova, and 8FS models have the new 3 bolt head tube interface that will work with Biologic bag systems. While the 9 and 9FS still have the 2 bolt interface, they should change in 2017.

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What exactly are the new mounts compatible with? I don't see a front-mounted bag on the Biologic site, just a trunk bag. They have a front-mounted basket, which appears to use the Tern luggage truss, which is a two-bolt mounted piece, not three like the new Downtubes

Just curious because I'm thinking there's an 8H in my near future, and I'd like to figure out what my luggage options are. I currently rely on panniers and a frame bag on my full-sized bike, but a frame bag won't work on a folder, and I've found I'm likely to be kicking any full-sized panniers I use on a folding bike.
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Same question as Rob E. I can't abide carrying anything on me as I ride. Luggage carrying options are paramount.
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Originally Posted by Rob_E
What exactly are the new mounts compatible with? I don't see a front-mounted bag on the Biologic site, just a trunk bag. They have a front-mounted basket, which appears to use the Tern luggage truss, which is a two-bolt mounted piece, not three like the new Downtubes

Just curious because I'm thinking there's an 8H in my near future, and I'd like to figure out what my luggage options are. I currently rely on panniers and a frame bag on my full-sized bike, but a frame bag won't work on a folder, and I've found I'm likely to be kicking any full-sized panniers I use on a folding bike.
The new 3 bolt will work with Tern 2 bolt interfaces. I thought I mentioned that before, My apologies for the confusion.

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Yan, to clarify, does that mean the old DT 2 bolt system doesn't work with the Tern (any other brand) attachment/truss?
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