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CHANGE upgrade
After a month riding on stock bike, my CHANGE is upgraded:
new weight 9.06kg or 20lbs without paddle my personal new record at 38.3km per hour upgraded parts: wheels, crankset, seat post, etc future upgrade: fork to become carbon or titanium, and titanium paddle https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2a24b84cf.jpeg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3a1bb64bc.jpeg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2c5c38112.jpeg |
9.06kg is a good weight for a folding full sized bike.
I am sure a carbon fork will make it even lighter. What is the material of the current fork? |
Originally Posted by pinholecam
(Post 22445535)
9.06kg is a good weight for a folding full sized bike.
I am sure a carbon fork will make it even lighter. What is the material of the current fork? |
Originally Posted by monsterfather
(Post 22445536)
aluminium
Carbon one will probably only save a little over it, but will be better on how it transmits road buzz. The ChangeBike is a really good option for someone looking for a full sized bike that takes standard parts. |
You seem to be running continental slicks which is amongst the best when it comes to rolling resistance.
From where you are now, I doubt a carbon fork would do much, yes, it will shave few 100g but the thing that slow you down the most is "you". With flat bars, you create loads of drag (air resistance). If you want to be faster, you better spend the money on tucking in stuff like drop bars for better aero. Then once that's done, go for lighter aero wheel that will spin faster easier. once Drap and Dynamic weight is dealt with you can move to static weight. Static weight affect mostly climbing a low speed. |
Originally Posted by Fentuz
(Post 22445607)
You seem to be running continental slicks which is amongst the best when it comes to rolling resistance.
From where you are now, I doubt a carbon fork would do much, yes, it will shave few 100g but the thing that slow you down the most is "you". With flat bars, you create loads of drag (air resistance). If you want to be faster, you better spend the money on tucking in stuff like drop bars for better aero. Then once that's done, go for lighter aero wheel that will spin faster easier. once Drap and Dynamic weight is dealt with you can move to static weight. Static weight affect mostly climbing a low speed. |
Originally Posted by monsterfather
(Post 22445619)
sounds like u expect a faster record, which i hope. After the above setup i also lower the t-bar again to the lowest possible and notice the slightly move of CG forward, similar to the feel of my another road bike (not foldable). I just started cycling frequently for five months and still hope to break my records at my age of 54.
Age does not matter, your fitness does (which is obviously affected by age). A friend of mine is 15 years older than me and he always destroys me over a 50 to 80k XC ride... |
Originally Posted by Fentuz
(Post 22445624)
yes, if you are doing ~38kph with flat bars, you should get a bit better with a road bike setup.
Age does not matter, your fitness does (which is obviously affected by age). A friend of mine is 15 years older than me and he always destroys me over a 50 to 80k XC ride... |
Originally Posted by monsterfather
(Post 22445631)
Interesting! I indeed didn’t try to break my own records but every new records were created when another rb trying to pass over me but failed… and agreed age is not a big deal but its to experienced and fit players. And yes i beat a lot tennis friends whom are much younger than me…
I have one configured w/ road bars as a gravel bike using the newer MTB frame. It does affect the fold to become not as compact, unless you can arrange/fit your road bars at a height that enables you to turn in after fold and not hit the frame. If riding and folding compact is what you want, then consider just leaving it as a flat bar. I use my bike for local group rides as well as touring and headwinds can be beating on me the whole day for days, so I do prefer the road bars for whatever wind hiding it gives. |
Originally Posted by pinholecam
(Post 22446426)
There is a downside to using road bars on the Change.
I have one configured w/ road bars as a gravel bike using the newer MTB frame. It does affect the fold to become not as compact, unless you can arrange/fit your road bars at a height that enables you to turn in after fold and not hit the frame. If riding and folding compact is what you want, then consider just leaving it as a flat bar. I use my bike for local group rides as well as touring and headwinds can be beating on me the whole day for days, so I do prefer the road bars for whatever wind hiding it gives. |
Originally Posted by monsterfather
(Post 22446508)
this is also the reason for me to keep the t-bar, so I can keep moving the folded bike easily with one wheel rolling.
I'd be reluctant to put flat bars on that bike too. Apart from affecting folding and increasing the bike's footprint, unless you're actually riding the in the drop position there's little difference. Personally I find I ride the hoods almost all the time with drops. Also, brakes and shifters become more complicated and much more expensive. Ergonomically I find drops less comfortable than flats too, which can affect both endurance and confidence which both in turn can affect performance. Low flat bars are the way forward, imo unless one intends to actually race against roadbikes and are actually going to use the drop position. |
Originally Posted by joey buzzard
(Post 22446672)
I'd be reluctant to put flat bars on that bike too. Apart from affecting folding and increasing the bike's footprint, unless you're actually riding the in the drop position there's little difference. Personally I find I ride the hoods almost all the time with drops. Also, brakes and shifters become more complicated and much more expensive. Ergonomically I find drops less comfortable than flats too, which can affect both endurance and confidence which both in turn can affect performance. Low flat bars are the way forward, imo unless one intends to actually race against roadbikes and are actually going to use the drop position.
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Originally Posted by pinholecam
(Post 22446426)
There is a downside to using road bars on the Change.
I have one configured w/ road bars as a gravel bike using the newer MTB frame. . https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ae6122aacc.jpg when you fold it, doesn't the go around the top tube? if so with modern short reach bar, I cannot how it takes more space than a flat bar. the overall reach between flat and drop should not be too dis-similar. alternative can be the Surly gravel dop conversion bar |
Originally Posted by joey buzzard
(Post 22446672)
I'd be reluctant to put flat bars on that bike too. Apart from affecting folding and increasing the bike's footprint, unless you're actually riding the in the drop position there's little difference. Personally I find I ride the hoods almost all the time with drops. Also, brakes and shifters become more complicated and much more expensive. Ergonomically I find drops less comfortable than flats too, which can affect both endurance and confidence which both in turn can affect performance. Low flat bars are the way forward, imo unless one intends to actually race against roadbikes and are actually going to use the drop position.
Even when riding with road bikes, if one is cunning and not gentlemanly about it, flat bars are usually fine. It will involve not taking the pull and maximizing drafting, only launching out at the last moment. Generally works unless the guys in the ride can punish you really hard by sustaining at the limits where that bit more aero of the drops even is a pack is necessarily. Personally, I don't like to do it. |
Originally Posted by Fentuz
(Post 22447080)
you mean:
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ae6122aacc.jpg when you fold it, doesn't the go around the top tube? if so with modern short reach bar, I cannot how it takes more space than a flat bar. the overall reach between flat and drop should not be too dis-similar. alternative can be the Surly gravel dop conversion bar Kinda hard to explain in words.. Riding Tales explains and illustrates it well with a photo. Change Bike: Custom Drop Bar Upgrades — Riding Tales "
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...81e76692df.jpg |
Interesting read that I found when re-looking for the Riding Tales webpage.
ChangeBike DF-702 Folding Bike: Three Month Review – Jess in Mannheim (wordpress.com) |
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