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Old 08-17-22, 12:49 PM
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Dahon Mu Water Bottle Cage Placement is ATROCIOUS

Dahon Mu Water Bottle Cage Placement is ATROCIOUS for this 5' tall rider.
I had to remove it but sending this photo so you can see that the height of the cage turns this into a 27" standover and a huge risk to any short person's groin. Part of the appeal of folders is so short people can have a low standover. Whoever decided cage placements go along the the standover didn't think about people under 5'3 or 5'4." ***PLEASE LINK*** to any products that have worked for you when a standover bottle cage isn't a good location. Thanks!

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That’s why we need to have a better selection of small wheel bikes, ie mini velo.
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Old 08-17-22, 02:46 PM
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and better placement of water bottle cages. ​​​​​​​

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That’s why we need to have a better selection of small wheel bikes, ie mini velo.
and better placement of water bottle cages. thanks.
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Really, this is 27"? Most break in half folders are set up this way. My Zizzo is similar, and I do not like it either, but where would you have them put it? It can't go on the stem if the stem folds between the halves, which is the most compact fold. Neither can it go on the seat post. Maybe there is room on the handlebars for an aftermarket solution.
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yup. 27" from the floor/ground to the top of the cage and my inseam is only 27.5".
why not higher up the frame towards the fork?
seems like a safety issue to me.
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yup. 27" from the floor/ground to the top of the cage and my inseam is only 27.5".
why not higher up the frame towards the fork?
seems like a safety issue to me.
Because you need to be able to pull the bottle out of the cage too.
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Because you need to be able to pull the bottle out of the cage too.
yup. the design is ridiculous for non-tall people.
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There are brackets that you get to mount two bottle cages under your seat. The nice thing about them is that they put one bottle on each side of your back wheel when you lower the seat, so they don't get in the way.
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There are brackets that you get to mount two bottle cages under your seat. The nice thing about them is that they put one bottle on each side of your back wheel when you lower the seat, so they don't get in the way.
there are so many crappy products online to search through, most cheap junk made overseas with awful reviews. can you please a link to your favorite reliable and quality options? thank you.
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Originally Posted by amyvegan View Post
Dahon Mu Water Bottle Cage Placement is ATROCIOUS for this 5' tall rider.
I had to remove it but sending this photo so you can see that the height of the cage turns this into a 27" standover and a huge risk to any short person's groin. Part of the appeal of folders is so short people can have a low standover. Whoever decided cage placements go along the the standover didn't think about people under 5'3 or 5'4."
you can get a clamp on from amazon that clamps right on the seat tube itself and works really well. easily removed also just by turning the bolt releasing the clamp.
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Old 08-17-22, 09:46 PM
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there are so many crappy products online to search through, most cheap junk made overseas with awful reviews. can you please a link to your favorite reliable and quality options? thank you.
Topeak is usually solid. For example, this thing of theirs, I've found to be good and could fit your needs: https://www.topeak.com/us/en/product/332-CAGEMOUNT
​​​A plus is that pivots 90 degrees so it can be installed horizontally or vertically.




​​​​​​Regrettably, I have to inform you, in light of your misgivings about Asiatic products, that Topeak, a Taiwanese company, manufactures everything, like Dahon, outside the goode ole' US of A. If you want to buy U.S. American, you'll have to look elsewhere. Sorry.

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thanks. if you can LINK me to ones you have experienced as decent/well made, i would appreciate that.
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thanks so much everyone. aside from the topeak, anything you can LINK TO that you know for sure is decent would be awesome so i don't have to random-scroll through every product which may or may not be good.
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Another option is to install a detachable velcro bag and bottle holder on the handle bar like this.







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Originally Posted by Ron Damon View Post
Another option is to install a detachable velcro bag and bottle holder on the handle bar like this.






great idea. well made, good stiching. love it. thanks! amazon or ?
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Originally Posted by amyvegan View Post
great idea. well made, good stiching. love it. thanks! amazon or ?
Yes, well made, good cordura material, thick Velcro, neat stitching, quality plastic buckles, good zipper and only $6. The catch? It's a local, Asiatic product so you won't be able to buy it. But I am sure there are just as good options available in the U.S. At several times the price, though. 😉 In any case, it was only meant as an illustration of another option to carry a water bottle.
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Yes, well made, good cordura material, thick Velcro, neat stitching, quality plastic buckles, good zipper and only $6. The catch? It's a local, Asiatic product so you won't be able to buy it. But I am sure there are just as good options available in the U.S. At several times the price, though. 😉 In any case, it was only meant as an illustration of another option to carry a water bottle.
yup. looked, didn't find the eibag brand here. thank you though. good idea.
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Not cheap but the revelate feed bag works great for water bottles and snacks and even a small tool kit. And it lasts forever. Mountain Feedbag - Cockpit | Revelate Designs LLC
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Not cheap but the revelate feed bag works great for water bottles and snacks and even a small tool kit. And it lasts forever. Mountain Feedbag - Cockpit | Revelate Designs LLC
thank you so much!
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[QUOTE=Ron Damon;22614207]Topeak is usually solid. For example, this thing of theirs, I've found to be good and could fit your needs: https://www.topeak.com/us/en/product/332-CAGEMOUNT

I am glad you posted this. I have had an SKS mount that is similar to this one, so I thought I would try it on my handlebars. So my bars are straight, and I found that the placement on the bars would not work due to interference with the brake levers. It could be turned around so that the bottle was on the inside of the cockpit, but it would stick out too much. However, I had another mount that similar but does not stick out as far, so I tried that and voilà.



I put it on the left side just to try it out. I went on a ten-mile ride. It worked great, at least so far. I am right-handed, so I am going to move it to the right side and move the bell to the left side. A bag would not work for me because heavy bottles like this one can pop out, at least ones I have tried.
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Not cheap but the revelate feed bag works great for water bottles and snacks and even a small tool kit. And it lasts forever. Mountain Feedbag - Cockpit | Revelate Designs LLC
Wow, $55 and only one, single mounting point. How would one affix that to a folding bike handle bar that has no stem? How would you prevent it from swinging during movement due to its single mounting point? How would you prevent knee strike when pedaling out of the saddle when mounted to the left or right of the handle post mast? So compromised by its attachment functionally and by its price. Even my cheapo Asiatic bag has three attachment points, two vertical Velcro straps for the handlebar and one horizontal Velcro strap for the handle post.
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Three (3) mounting points

To the OP, you gotta actually think about how anything that you mount on the bike functions when the bike is moving, when you are in|on the bike pedaling, pedaling out of the saddle, how the attachment points (point in the singular here) arrests movement, swinging and swaying. Exorbitant price is no assurance of anything.

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Wow, $55 and only one, single mounting point. How would one affix that to a folding bike handle bar that has no stem? How would you prevent it from swinging during movement due to its single mounting point? How would you prevent knee strike when pedaling out of the saddle when mounted to the left or right of the handle post mast? So compromised by its attachment functionally and by its price. Even my cheapo Asiatic bag has three attachment points, two vertical Velcro straps for the handlebar and one horizontal Velcro strap for the handle post.
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Three (3) mounting points

To the OP, you gotta actually think about how anything that you mount on the bike functions when the bike is moving, when you are in|on the bike pedaling, pedaling out of the saddle, how the attachment points (point in the singular here) arrests movement, swinging and swaying. Exorbitant price is no assurance of anything.
1. that is not the revelate cockpit bag, which has 3 mount points
2. i use it on my mu uno
If amyvegan is interested I will provide her a pic of how it mounts.
You seem to like to argue about things; muted.
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1. that is not the revelate cockpit bag, which has 3 mount points
2. i use it on my mu uno
If amyvegan is interested I will provide her a pic of how it mounts.
You seem to like to argue about things; muted.
i appreciate any and all pics on how to solve my problem more safely and elegantly. reaching between my legs at a stop sign to pull out a water bottle is not my idea of elegant.
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i appreciate any and all pics on how to solve my problem more safely and elegantly. reaching between my legs at a stop sign to pull out a water bottle is not my idea of elegant.
It'll be a few days before I can get you a pic as my adult son has my Dahon right now (someone stole his Jamis, grrrrr). The revelate bag has 3 attachments: one wide velcro fixed strap, one narrow velcro strap with multiple attachment points on both sides, and a "leash" with a backpack style clip. I put the wide velcro strap over the handlebar, and use the narrow velcro strap to attach firmly to the vertical post. This is extremely secure and the "leash" isn't really needed. It's purpose is to hold the bag if you pull your stuff out really hard in an upright vertical movement; it stops up and down movement but nothing side to side. I have found the two velcro straps works absolutely fine to hold the bag even vertically when removing a water bottle (which is a one handed operation using the unique drawstring). If that doesn't make sense, let me know and I'll try to go over to my son's apartment so I can get a pic. I have the bag because I also use it on my Bike Friday but he has the Dahon, lol.
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PLEASE DO NOT go out of your way to take a photo.
I can imagine how it works. THANK YOU.
I have already received numerous examples of workable items so I'm good. Really, don't make this a a priority thing for you.
So sorry to hear about the Jamis.

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It'll be a few days before I can get you a pic as my adult son has my Dahon right now (someone stole his Jamis, grrrrr). The revelate bag has 3 attachments: one wide velcro fixed strap, one narrow velcro strap with multiple attachment points on both sides, and a "leash" with a backpack style clip. I put the wide velcro strap over the handlebar, and use the narrow velcro strap to attach firmly to the vertical post. This is extremely secure and the "leash" isn't really needed. It's purpose is to hold the bag if you pull your stuff out really hard in an upright vertical movement; it stops up and down movement but nothing side to side. I have found the two velcro straps works absolutely fine to hold the bag even vertically when removing a water bottle (which is a one handed operation using the unique drawstring). If that doesn't make sense, let me know and I'll try to go over to my son's apartment so I can get a pic. I have the bag because I also use it on my Bike Friday but he has the Dahon, lol.
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