It’s made by Zizzo and it’s a neat little bike. I am considering using it for commuting since I don’t have a bike rack or actual can find one that would fit my car. This thing fits in the hatch.


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Yellow and black is a good look.Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet
It’s made by Zizzo and it’s a neat little bike. I am considering using it for commuting since I don’t have a bike rack or actual can find one that would fit my car. This thing fits in the hatch.
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Congratulations, and hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mines! Both of mines are Campo models (earlier, aluminum framed with monopost stems; one black/white and the other White/black) and they've been great budget bikes (although one is now recipient of mild modifications!).
I noticed the bottom of the barrel Shimano Tourney derailleur needed a little adjustment and the brakes needed some adjustment also. The bike does ride good. Not sure about the 240 pound weight limit since I weigh about 250. Hopefully it holds up.


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I upgraded the Tourney derailleur on my Zizzo to Deore. The Tourney worked fine I just wanted to treat my bike to a present. That and an external bearing crankset are to only modifications I've made so far. As far as weight limit, you should be just fine as long you're not riding off curbs or ramps. Bike companies are very conservative with advertised weight limits to cover their a***s.Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet
I noticed the bottom of the barrel Shimano Tourney derailleur needed a little adjustment and the brakes needed some adjustment also. The bike does ride good. Not sure about the 240 pound weight limit since I weigh about 250. Hopefully it holds up.I don't plan on curb jumping or anything. I aim to lose some weight anyway. After the post adjustments ride I am totally replacing the saddle.
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Congratulations on your weight loss plan, I'm also on said plan (240# down from 250#), and its been great. Since both of mines have the monopost, I depend much for on-the-saddle powering and, necause of that, the modified one has a much better Selle Royale replacement seat so, yes, go for the change. Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet
I don't plan on curb jumping or anything. I aim to lose some weight anyway. After the post adjustments ride I am totally replacing the saddle.
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As a matter of a fact I have a Selle Royale Fast Way saddle for it.Originally Posted by Juan el Boricua
Congratulations on your weight loss plan, I'm also on said plan (240# down from 250#), and its been great. Since both of mines have the monopost, I depend much for on-the-saddle powering and, necause of that, the modified one has a much better Selle Royale replacement seat so, yes, go for the change.
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Bite your tongue! My Dahon folder came with a short-cage Dahon Neos RD mounted forward of the axle (too far forward of the cogs, so too much lateral chain flex), and combined with the worst intended copy of hyperglide ever, just wouldn't shift to the low cog unless adjusted so far that the chain falls between the low cog and spokes (the reason for spoke protector discs). When I upgraded to 2X gearing, I replaced the RD with a mid-cage (GS) Tourney, mostly because it came in a claw mount as my frame lacked a proper RD hanger; What a difference, despite $13 retail price, it's a trooper.Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet
I noticed the bottom of the barrel Shimano Tourney derailleur needed a little adjustment and the brakes needed some adjustment also. The bike does ride good. Not sure about the 240 pound weight limit since I weigh about 250. Hopefully it holds up.
It's amazing what these folders are capable of with the right parts, and racks, such as a rear rack to keep the panniers far enough aft for heel clearance.



My brother is a truck driver and has a Dahon folder he keeps in the cab.
So I am confused. My Zizzo Campo model has an aluminum frame and a steel fork. According to the official website my Campo should have a steel frame which is not the case. I checked the frame and fork with a magnet. Maybe I have an older or first gen model?

All I know is the bike is pretty light and it needs a larger front chainring to increase speed. I am not interested in the speed thing for a commuter and don't want to go too fast on a folder. I am just confused about the web info. If you notice, my Campo has "www.euromini.bike" marked on the frame instead of the zizzo link.

All I know is the bike is pretty light and it needs a larger front chainring to increase speed. I am not interested in the speed thing for a commuter and don't want to go too fast on a folder. I am just confused about the web info. If you notice, my Campo has "www.euromini.bike" marked on the frame instead of the zizzo link.
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All I know is the bike is pretty light and it needs a larger front chainring to increase speed. I am not interested in the speed thing for a commuter and don't want to go too fast on a folder. I am just confused about the web info. If you notice, my Campo has "www.euromini.bike" marked on the frame instead of the zizzo link.
I don't think all kinds of steel are magnetic.Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet
So I am confused. My Zizzo Campo model has an aluminum frame and a steel fork. According to the official website my Campo should have a steel frame which is not the case. I checked the frame and fork with a magnet. Maybe I have an older or first gen model?
All I know is the bike is pretty light and it needs a larger front chainring to increase speed. I am not interested in the speed thing for a commuter and don't want to go too fast on a folder. I am just confused about the web info. If you notice, my Campo has "www.euromini.bike" marked on the frame instead of the zizzo link.
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I assume you mean ferromagnetic, meaning that a magnet will be attracted to it, but for here, we'll call that "magnetic". Steel becomes non-magnetic if:Originally Posted by Islandia
I don't think all kinds of steel are magnetic.
1) You add enough alloying elements like chrome to make it more corrosion resistant, and this changes the crystal structure of the steel. Note, there are still alloys of "stainless" that are magnetic, those are martensitic stainless if heat-hardenable for things like knives and tools. If it says "austenic" stainless then it is typical non-magnetic, and gets its strength through other means than heat treating.
2) You heat the magnetic steel hot enough to where the crystal structure changes, and it is non-magnetic, and that is typically the clue of reaching the temp needed to harden the steel, and then it is quenched by liquid or gas, and once no longer that hot, it is magnetic again.
Very few bike frames are stainless steel. Some customs, and some first model Dahons are claimed by some to be stainless steel, but it may just be chrome or nickel plating, I don't know. Typical "Hi(gh)-Ten(sile)" steel and 4130 chrome moly steel used on steel bike frames, is quite ferromagnetic. Ships in WWII were "degaussed" in shipyards, passing through huge coils, to remove magnetic charge, which would make them more easily detected by magnetic anomoly equipment, and it messes with magnetic compasses. This degaussing would need to be done periodically.
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All I know is the bike is pretty light and it needs a larger front chainring to increase speed. I am not interested in the speed thing for a commuter and don't want to go too fast on a folder. I am just confused about the web info. If you notice, my Campo has "www.euromini.bike" marked on the frame instead of the zizzo link.
Middle Ohio is so flat I hate it, so boring, my old boss loved it because he was a pilot so there were ample places to land in an emergency. Ashtabula, NE OH on the lake, I don't know. In MI, I never needed a mountain low. On my folder, even with small wheels, here on the west coast with hills, 52 x 30 x 406 was still too tall for the climbs, I went 2X so now have 34 x 30 x 406, just adequate, and I never need higher than 50 x 11 x 406. My old race bike, yeah, I needed taller gearing. I wouldn't pass up taller gearing on my folder, but forced to make a choice, it's 21-85 gear inches and no taller. I won't win any races.Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet
So I am confused. My Zizzo Campo model has an aluminum frame and a steel fork. According to the official website my Campo should have a steel frame which is not the case. I checked the frame and fork with a magnet. Maybe I have an older or first gen model?
All I know is the bike is pretty light and it needs a larger front chainring to increase speed. I am not interested in the speed thing for a commuter and don't want to go too fast on a folder. I am just confused about the web info. If you notice, my Campo has "www.euromini.bike" marked on the frame instead of the zizzo link.
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Johnny, may I ask if you bought yours second-hand? If so, maybe its from before 2025 which is the year when the Campo started being made with a steel frame/fork. Previous models were 6061 aluminium alloy frame with a high tensile carbon steel fork and a 1" steerer tube; models before 2023 came with an aluminium alloy monopost and those after came with an adjustable aluminium alloy stempost, both quilled type. Here's the spec sheet for the 2019 Campo model (both of mines!):


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(above) If those specs are true, the number one upgrade I would recommend if you desire to cut weight, is replacement of that steel crank with aluminum. It looked suspiciously thin for aluminum. That might require changing the pedals, as steel cranks are 1/2"-20 threads I think, whereas aluminum cranks are 9/16"-20 I think. But I'd wait a while on that, to know that you'll stay with a single crank ring, and not go for a double like me. I also went further with a new style 2-piece hollow-spindle crank with external bearings, even lighter, and so many other benefits with that newer system.
The steel hubs could also use upgrade to aluminum, but that's a big lift to do yourself, requires wheelbuilding and truing knowledge. Easier is to buy a new wheelset with aluminum hubs. But that's a much smaller weight savings than the crank and rings.
Ride that folder a bunch, see what you like, what you don't like.
A nice cheap upgrade, is a front "sixer" style rack that attaches at the fork crown and v-brake posts. These are just big enough for a six pack, and very cheap:


I later added a wood stick on each side between the front of the top deck and the fork dropouts, to keep panniers out of the spokes, and hung smaller panniers, as shown in my previous photos. Just be aware that any front rack may preclude you using bike racks on the front of buses and such, as it blocks the arm that goes over the front wheel to hold the bike in place. That happened on a trip, but I just folded the bike and brought it on board the bus.
OH, and see that front bag on the bike? That's just a cheap backpack, the arm straps over the handlebars. Dirt cheap, effective!
The steel hubs could also use upgrade to aluminum, but that's a big lift to do yourself, requires wheelbuilding and truing knowledge. Easier is to buy a new wheelset with aluminum hubs. But that's a much smaller weight savings than the crank and rings.
Ride that folder a bunch, see what you like, what you don't like.
A nice cheap upgrade, is a front "sixer" style rack that attaches at the fork crown and v-brake posts. These are just big enough for a six pack, and very cheap:


I later added a wood stick on each side between the front of the top deck and the fork dropouts, to keep panniers out of the spokes, and hung smaller panniers, as shown in my previous photos. Just be aware that any front rack may preclude you using bike racks on the front of buses and such, as it blocks the arm that goes over the front wheel to hold the bike in place. That happened on a trip, but I just folded the bike and brought it on board the bus.
OH, and see that front bag on the bike? That's just a cheap backpack, the arm straps over the handlebars. Dirt cheap, effective!
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All I know is the bike is pretty light and it needs a larger front chainring to increase speed. I am not interested in the speed thing for a commuter and don't want to go too fast on a folder. I am just confused about the web info. If you notice, my Campo has "www.euromini.bike" marked on the frame instead of the zizzo link.
euromini and zizzo are one and the same company. They regularly change their specs but keep the same model names. In order to research one you need to match the specs it had at that time. Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet
So I am confused. My Zizzo Campo model has an aluminum frame and a steel fork. According to the official website my Campo should have a steel frame which is not the case. I checked the frame and fork with a magnet. Maybe I have an older or first gen model?
All I know is the bike is pretty light and it needs a larger front chainring to increase speed. I am not interested in the speed thing for a commuter and don't want to go too fast on a folder. I am just confused about the web info. If you notice, my Campo has "www.euromini.bike" marked on the frame instead of the zizzo link.
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Enjoy the Zizzo! I almost bought a used Zizzo Liberte, but there was a used Dahon Boardwalk for even less. Turns out the Boardwalk's rear wheel was trashed, but a $25 used replacement wheel from the co-op and the Boardwalk was still cheaper. The aluminum Zizzo was lighter, but not by too much.
For more speed and better climbing I ended up buying a wide-range 7-speed rear gear set, 11-32 ruined the original Neos derailleur, but I swapped it out for whatever used Shimano unit I found at the co-op. I also added bull bars.
It is a fun, fairly normal riding experience, especially compared to its little yellow 16" Dahon Getaway stablemate, also modified, but more so.


For more speed and better climbing I ended up buying a wide-range 7-speed rear gear set, 11-32 ruined the original Neos derailleur, but I swapped it out for whatever used Shimano unit I found at the co-op. I also added bull bars.
It is a fun, fairly normal riding experience, especially compared to its little yellow 16" Dahon Getaway stablemate, also modified, but more so.


I got the Zizzo all ready for commuting. New saddle, lights, mirror, and bike bag.


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Lookin' great!Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet
I got the Zizzo all ready for commuting. New saddle, lights, mirror, and bike bag.
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I don't claim to be an expert, but those wide welds on your frame "suggest" aluminum to me.
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I got one Dahon Speed cheap, it was a good price and when I met the seller, a trucker, it had a HUGE hole worn in the side of the seatpost, and Dahon seatposts are pretty thick wall and good aluminum. Must have been stored alongside something steel, like chain tie-downs or something. He agreed to cut the price of the cost of a new seat tube. Better a replaceable part like that and not the frame. That bike came in handly when my Speed frame cracked due to the early plastic seat-tube/post bushing, and I didn't catch it early enough to mitigate the crack. When I finally did my 2X crank upgrade and overhaul (by which time the cracks had migrated back to the seatstays and down the seat tube, that triggered the upgrade), I swapped out the frame. The old cracked frame plus spare fork, I use, held in a Workmate copy, as a wheel truing jig.Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet
My brother is a truck driver and has a Dahon folder he keeps in the cab.
I am very upset that I have yet to commute on this bike. It's been folded up in the back of my car since the 1st of April. The weather around here sucks! I had two possible days to commute this week and that was Tuesday and Wednesday this week. I work Tuesday through Saturday every week. Unfortunately on Tuesday I had to take my truck to work to drop off my used tires, used oil, and scrap I accumulated in the shop over winter. While I had the truck at work I decided to load up my Huffy Klunker and bring it home finally.
I checked the forecast and it looked like Wednesday was the first and best day to commute to work! I already lost Tuesday and was not going to miss out on the only last nice day for the week with more rain and storms coming. I went to bed early to get ready for my first commute. I couldn't sleep though since my brain wouldn't shut up. I get up and get ready for my 16 mile drive to town to where my wife works and get my coffee. Here is where I park the car and would ride the bike 5.5 miles to my work and then 5.5 miles back daily. Please note I haven't even ridden any of my bikes much for the last six years. I used to do this same commute from 2014 to 2020.
Wait for it...........
*phone starts ringing* - Wifey calling from work says - "Hey Johnny. Since you got the truck, could you bring our large canopy tent to the store so my boss can borrow it for a party they are having?"
Well, the large canopy tent won't fit in my little car unless I remove the Zizzo from the back, fold the rf and rear seats and squeeze it in. The Huffy was already in the truck. I grabbed the headlight, tail light, and cargo bag, and took the truck. Unloaded the tent. Got my coffee. Saddled up the Klunker and finally commuted to work after all this time. The weather already went to crap and looks like Wednesday will be my first commute on the Zizzo. Might be nice to have some gears! My first commute was brutal on a single speed, but I still loved every second of it. Especially the ride home. Wish me luck!
I checked the forecast and it looked like Wednesday was the first and best day to commute to work! I already lost Tuesday and was not going to miss out on the only last nice day for the week with more rain and storms coming. I went to bed early to get ready for my first commute. I couldn't sleep though since my brain wouldn't shut up. I get up and get ready for my 16 mile drive to town to where my wife works and get my coffee. Here is where I park the car and would ride the bike 5.5 miles to my work and then 5.5 miles back daily. Please note I haven't even ridden any of my bikes much for the last six years. I used to do this same commute from 2014 to 2020.
Wait for it...........
*phone starts ringing* - Wifey calling from work says - "Hey Johnny. Since you got the truck, could you bring our large canopy tent to the store so my boss can borrow it for a party they are having?"
Well, the large canopy tent won't fit in my little car unless I remove the Zizzo from the back, fold the rf and rear seats and squeeze it in. The Huffy was already in the truck. I grabbed the headlight, tail light, and cargo bag, and took the truck. Unloaded the tent. Got my coffee. Saddled up the Klunker and finally commuted to work after all this time. The weather already went to crap and looks like Wednesday will be my first commute on the Zizzo. Might be nice to have some gears! My first commute was brutal on a single speed, but I still loved every second of it. Especially the ride home. Wish me luck!





