jasong

So the Frog's still bigger than a Brompton.

I don't understand the rationale behind Strida saying that the bike can go for free on airlines, apparently assuming that it looks like a golf bag. Especially in heightened security screening, it'll be obvious that isn't the case, and then obvious that it should be in the category of oversized goods. It only takes one roundtrip flight to lose $200+ in surcharges.

Dahon.Steve

What do you mean by "multimode gaps"?

The only multimode gap is the inside of a bus. I have never heard of a Bike Friday, Dahon, Brompton or Birdy owner getting kicked off a train because the package was too big. In fact, I have not heard of a single individual who said they could not get their Bike Friday or Dahon inside a bus! I've been able to get my Dahon Speed 8 inside the cabin of a bus and it's not much smaller than your KHS folder.

I understand that some people feel ashamed about bringing a folder inside a bus. I can assure you, people will stare whatever folder you bring inside the cabin so you'll just have to get used to it. A smaller folder will not go unnoticed.

I suspect the Strida would be the pefect bike for the bus but if your destination requires hill climbing, you're better off a different folder that has gears regardless to the size.

royalflash

its very unlikely you will have problems with the handy bike- just being able to sling it on your shoulder and carry it like a bag really helps with the psychological fear of being rejected because of your bike- all the other bikes I have seen you are carrying an awkward heavy package that is difficult to play down

but you pay with the functionality of course

af895

I want to thank everyone for replying to date. More than I could have hoped for!

Scooper: you probably knew this already but I fly too and my original decision to get a folder was to fit in the back of a Cessna 172. That "extra foldable" design you linked with the fenders becoming the case is just beautiful. If they ever built it, it would make a great Metropolitan-Museum piece as well as a novel bike.

Dahon.Steve: by "multi-mode gaps," I'm talking about days where I would take the bus but have perhaps a mile between a bus terminal and a store I want to visit.

For that kind of trip, I'm looking for something extremely light weight whose sole purpose in life is to replace walking with rolling - and be a step up from a kick-scooter.

If I take the bus and want to bike more than a mile or three, I'll continue to take the KHS with me. (see: https://www.ncf.ca/~af895/bike/bus_montage.jpg) I actually like taking the bike on the bus! No comments on it yet, oddly!

Just about any of the bikes mentioned in this thread would do what I want. It's a sliding scale of ride-quality versus packed size - I just have to decide if I can live with something that rides like a scooter or if I want to carry a bit more weight for a plusher ride.

The R&M Frog is, unfortunately, about double what I can afford unless there's a good deal to be had on pre-enjoyed.

Off to the local bike co-op shortly to look around!

Rincewind8

Here is a review about the Handybike (in German):

https://www.muenchnernotizen.info/Kon...ybike/000.html

randya

Stridas model 3 and up also use sealed wheel bearings, they're pretty slick, no cones and loose bearings or bearing adjustments to mess with. And they're continually tweaking the Strida, I've got two S3s with substantially different wheel mounting bolts.

Pluses - really light, quick fold, rolls when folded, geared pretty well for flat riding and moderate hills for a single speed.

Minusses - the oversteering bit mentioned above, which you get used to quickly; difficulty dialing in the belt tension just right; tendency for the tires to come off the rims if overinflated (cast plastic wheels only).

If you want it to fold small, you really need the upgrade kit, which includes the folding handlebars and pedals, as well as the rack, fenders and seat upgrade.

CHenry

From the R+M website: The telescope seat post and 12 inch wheels enable the Frog to be folded into a compact 63x48x29 cm package

Scooper

I was a bit off, then. That works out to about 25" x 19" x 12". Not bad!

Scooper

I didn't know that, Chris. Mine's a '63 172D and I've put considerable effort into upgrading the panel.

I'm still trying to track down info on whether or not anybody ever produced the "extra foldable"... In the meantime, I'm attempting to reverse engineer it from enlargements of those published drawings with a goal of building a one-off.

jasong

Here's another small folder for the list:

Landing Gear Folder

https://www.foldsoc.co.uk/fsn/fsn059.html

As well as the article later in this issue about his own folder/separable, Drew Devereux sent a brochure about the Durham Landing Gear folder; the most relevant information in the brochure is:

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"Durham Landing Gear Carry-on folding bicycle
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The Durham Landing Gear is more than a very light, compact folding bicycle. It's a new approach to cycling.
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Folded dimensions in knapsack meet airlines 22" x 14" x 9" carry-on space requirement for overhead storage.
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It weighs a scant 17 pounds

14R 

Hey Chris,

You can compromise size or "foldability", but NEVER confort.
Please check this bike


lol...

Rafael

randya

THAT would make an awesome ZooBomber!

Simple Simon

Awsome !! 20mph down (a smooth) hill would feel like 200mph !

grapetonix

Holy God, is that handybike even stable enough on standard pavement to be classified a bicycle?

af895

Oh boy - I'm about to throw ANOTHER bike into the mix:

https://www.foldupbicycle.com/Newbike.htm

Thanks to "Chop" for his webpage featuring every folding bike manufacturer known.
I'd never seen those ones before - I'm still going through the list on Chop's page.

Another that looked interesting, along the lines of the Handybike: https://www.17bicycle.com/

makeinu

I know I'm dragging up a very very old thread, but it seemed like the appropriate place to post the following:

Looks like the JD Bike has been discontinued. I don't know if the build quality is any good, but the clearance prices seem decent for anyone looking for a bike comparable to the handybike.

In particular, it looks like a steal for Australians at 89AUD from dailydeals.com.au. On the other hand, it looks like us Americans will have to pay a little more, but prices still seem decent at 170USD from razor-help.com or 200USD from extreme-sports-guide.com.

Check https://www.razor.co.jp/jdbike.htm for not-so-detailed specifications.

Edd

Makeinu

Being in Oz that deal is cheap, thanks for posting.
Have you seen this bike?
https://cgi.ebay.com.au/BRAND-NEW-A-B...QQcmdZViewItem

Edd

royalflash

due to popular demand (from Makeinu) here is the handy bike folded

Juan Szumowski

Hello Stan
The images you show, are of the competition drawings , following these, the organizers paid for the model in the jpeg's attached.
The idea needs connecting with the right backing.
okey, all the best.
Juan Szumowski

Juan Szumowski

Hello Stan
The images you show, are of the competition drawings , following these, the organizers paid for the model in the jpeg's attached.
The idea needs connecting with the right backing.
okey, all the best.
Juan Szumowski

ChiapasFixed

nobody discussing the upcoming Dahon Curl?
Is it too big, or just too new and unobtainable?